Don't take this as defending David Cage when I say: Revenge stories are much easier to get the player involved in than any other type of story arc. They aren't exactly emotionally complex. "Bad thing happens because of bad people. Go get em tiger!" There is something to be said that Max Payne might not be as "deep" as other kinds of stories, but it doesn't matter, its a good way of driving the action. I just don't think what your presenting in that section is a good counter point to his drivel.
Also, calm down with the gifs.
Encounters often feel similar to puzzle rooms in other games – but rather than pushing a block to a goal in the least number of moves, you are trying to figure out how to quickly eliminate the enemies taking the least amount of damage.
I really loved MP1&2 and replayed the hell out of them. As I got better and better at the games, I started stripping out tools and trying new things to "solve" the rooms. No using bullet time, limiting the weapon selection, baring the use of grenades/molotovs, ect. Sometimes I was surprised by what I could accomplish, other times I got stomped so hard it was impossible not to recognize the value of some weapons and techniques in their absence.
This was a great look-back at some great games. Lets hope Max Payne 3 can live up to the legacy!
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I'd really like to see an autosave mechanic. I got pretty wrapped up in the story a few times and forgot to save constantly. I ended up in a cheap pitfall death and would have been forced to start the entire game over had I not thrown the game and controller out the window first. I've since finished both games, quicksaving like a madman.
I don't know if I'll be able to read this, but going back through the two games, I have to say it's a truly great experience. The story of the first game got a little to big, but bloody brilliant either way.
Max Payne is one of the few games, where after beating an encounter, I'd reload just to do it again. In fact, I've been playing the games, trying to be as perfect as possible, jumping and diving through encounters trying to not only look badass, but also without taking a sliver of damage.
That being said, I know Rockstar will make a beautifully looking and fun to play game.
I still have the mousepad that came with the original PC version. Everyone totally needed to know that.
I do agree with what you said about some games not balancing or forcing you to be smart about your weapon selection. I don't know how many games I've gone through using nothing but the first pistol or gun it gave me.
Not to nitpick myself, however Max Payne wasn't a revenge story in a traditional sense. He more or less got caught up in events that he could only solve more or less with firepower. Attempting to find a way out of the black hole of killing, wearing himself down with each person he puts into the ground. Finally ending up having the final act in both MP 1 and 2 being an assault to get the long awaited answers. Only to find no resolution, and a past full of nightmares.
I don't know what you were referencing by the revenge about a son being kidnapped though. Heavy Rain, or the MP Movie? The MP film is about the first half of MP1, which did a pretty poor job of being an adaptation from what I've seen.
I know you've gotten your fill of epic story driven games though with that MGS pic, so I'm just attempting to reiterate the emotional weight that Max Payne 1 and 2 carries isn't about revenge. It's more about grief and the madness that follows. ^_^
As for GoW on the other hand, which is a revenge story. There is something that I find interesting about the ending. I loved the character Kratos. A mindless rage filled anti-hero was pretty novel at the time. Except at the end of the events...
*Spoiler Alert*
Athena ends up telling Kratos that she placed Hope (May as well been called Pony Power) inside of Pandora's Box, giving Kratos the keen ability to overcome all obstacles ahead of himself.
I would liken this to baseball. It felt like watching someone hit 70+ home runs in a year only to find both a corked bat and a bunch of dirty needles in his locker.
Needless to say it ruins (or flips) the entire characters persona by giving him the justification for all the evils he performed while giving him a pat on the back, in the last five minutes. Personally this destroyed my image of Kratos. Which is about as big of a deal as it happening on a TV show or film series (It's not. I just end up not watching the show/movies anymore, nothing lost. Disappointing though)
All in all I haven't come across many people that were bothered by this or at least I haven't read anything personally. Yet possibly many people didn't look at the events in the way I did.
There is the aspect to look at when it comes to him diving off the cliff to finish himself off. But, again I'd liken it to getting nuked 3 times in a game, it just doesn't carry the same emotional weight the second and third time.
Sorry I sort of misinterpreted the wording. I guess I just really enjoyed the story and didn't want toss out a ton of plot give aways if you haven't played Max Payne 1 or 2 yet. I just think there's a lot to be said for a story that has you piece everything together for it to stay somewhat ambiguous compared to a story that spells everything out for you. I'd rather be left wanting more, (sans a to be continued prompt) rather than feeling that I didn't need to put any input myself, mentally, to understand what I just witnessed.
I just didn't see Max Payne's events as him being "Good" and the guys you shoot being "Evil". I see it as a moral shade of gray, where no one really wins. Even Max dies inside as he trudges down the path.
Again I think you're on point. I lied and apparently was nitpicking. I just felt reiteration was a fun way to waste my time. Thanks for reading if you do though. ^_^
But I've got to add to the chorus and beg you to kill off the GIFs. Even the longer Grim Fandango ones were tiresome. Nothing ruins reading a great article quite like a constant twitching image in your periphery.
I cannot wait for Tuesday. I'm going to try to finish Max Payne 2 this weekend.
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