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Wait, "Killergames"? Is this phrase getting thrown around now or is it just the subject in question? Either way, yeesh.
lyfeforce: It's a term coined by German politicians a few years ago. They refer to any violent videogame as a "killergame."
I love the way he pretty much says "I know there's no link at all with video games and violence, but I don't care because I think there is actually."
Lets see how long it is before it comes out he's been fucking kids in the changing rooms or something.
Lets see how long it is before it comes out he's been fucking kids in the changing rooms or something.
This is a bit familiar, when was it we last saw this kind of repression upon peoples rights and controlling, oppresive leadership in Germany? All under the guise of "protecting the German people" again, When was it again?
About 1945 wasn't it?
About 1945 wasn't it?
Oh, moment please, I will just kill this dude in Dead Space...ahh well Its a real problem here in germany, that everyone think he has got an idea of gaming even though he has never played a game...-.-
Well there was blood spilled, he ran in there with some molotow cocktails and an axe. One girl is still in a coma because he hit her with the axe. It is sad...
But the rest I agree with, stupid people, it is not that freaking easy. Outlaw them and it will never happen again, worked great before. Damn it.
But the rest I agree with, stupid people, it is not that freaking easy. Outlaw them and it will never happen again, worked great before. Damn it.
lol what a stupid idiot... ppl like him have always the same profile here in germany: At least 6 Kids, No TV/Computer and catholic.
I heard that some famous serial killers read books. We should ban all books to make sure that never happens again.
Games don't turn people violent, stupidity does. Like me, I want to punch the guy who came up with that crap.
Ignorance, the plague.
Ignorance, the plague.
This of course coming from the country with what I think is the largest porn industry in the world.. *facepalm fail*
this is coming from the country that is genocidal and would loose big time once all their game developers leave them.
Jim, I'm pretty sure you're BIASED against aging, semi-retarded Germans who hate videogames. Compare this to your Buddhist monk article. Just sayin'
I think that it should be required from all would-be school shooters to write a fucking note saying "GAMES DIDN'T MAKE ME DO IT, YOU DID"...
German principal decries violent games.
Buddhist monk supports violent games.
The juxtaposition gave me an inner ear infection. Thanks, Destructoid.
Buddhist monk supports violent games.
The juxtaposition gave me an inner ear infection. Thanks, Destructoid.
Read this principle's comments carefully - he basically admits that yes, there is no link between games and school shootings, and that yes, the vast majority of people who play games aren't affected by the violence in any negative way, but that he still wants them banned on the premise that one game could, maybe, perhaps, influence just a little bit, even ONE child, in some way shape or form negatively.
What can you say to these people? They can't be convinced. This principle is the same sort of person who wanted to ban Lady Chatterley's Lover in England in the 1800's due to the fact that it contained a description of sex. These people want to drag us back to the 1930's. You can bet that they would also ban any films with violence in them too if they could, but of course they're smart enough to realise that that fight is over. Still, they go after video games because there's a chance they can ban them.
Reasoning with people like this principle is pointless. They know all our arguments. They even, like this guy, admit that there is no link. And yet they still want to ban.
The only cure is time. These people are almost universally old. They'll die. And then this nonsense won't be around any more. Yes, some developers will lose their jobs, some companies will fold and that's all tragic and whatnot, but like films, like TV shows and like books, this will go away.
Lady Chatterley's Lover was eventually published in England you know. There's nothing to fear.
What can you say to these people? They can't be convinced. This principle is the same sort of person who wanted to ban Lady Chatterley's Lover in England in the 1800's due to the fact that it contained a description of sex. These people want to drag us back to the 1930's. You can bet that they would also ban any films with violence in them too if they could, but of course they're smart enough to realise that that fight is over. Still, they go after video games because there's a chance they can ban them.
Reasoning with people like this principle is pointless. They know all our arguments. They even, like this guy, admit that there is no link. And yet they still want to ban.
The only cure is time. These people are almost universally old. They'll die. And then this nonsense won't be around any more. Yes, some developers will lose their jobs, some companies will fold and that's all tragic and whatnot, but like films, like TV shows and like books, this will go away.
Lady Chatterley's Lover was eventually published in England you know. There's nothing to fear.
Everytime there's a school shooting in Germany, someone there always blame it on the video games. Especially violent video games.Why can't they go after violent tv shows or movies, why it has to be video games?
Normal Germans need to stand up for themselves. And if the politicians don't listen, they need to run for office themselves.
@Korolev
The only problem is that there are always people, younger people who will accept there arguments. I don't think this will go away, this is how idea's in society perpetuate themselves because younger people can accept the elders arguments at face value.
Normal Germans need to stand up for themselves. And if the politicians don't listen, they need to run for office themselves.
@Korolev
The only problem is that there are always people, younger people who will accept there arguments. I don't think this will go away, this is how idea's in society perpetuate themselves because younger people can accept the elders arguments at face value.
The guys a principal, which means he old and all about keeping the children safe. Promoting stopping gamers from enjoying, what they like into their own time is treading on the freedom banner. While this principal dude is entitled to his opinion, notice that he doesn't go out of his way to ask any of his students their view on things, considering his negative view can impact their hobby. Shows how much he loves and respects his students.
Notice its these same people that believe everything Fox News tells them. To them every game is about killing, and games have nothing positive for society at all.
Perhaps Germany should control their guns a bit more, and educate in how not to misuse them better etc. Connecting with young people more too, and such problems can avoided. This principal more or less confirms the lack of connection between young and old, and until that is broken down, messed up stuff will happen.
Notice its these same people that believe everything Fox News tells them. To them every game is about killing, and games have nothing positive for society at all.
Perhaps Germany should control their guns a bit more, and educate in how not to misuse them better etc. Connecting with young people more too, and such problems can avoided. This principal more or less confirms the lack of connection between young and old, and until that is broken down, messed up stuff will happen.
yep, hitler went all genocidal because of getting teabagged in halo....er no, wait it's because he couldn't get in to ART SCHOOL. apparently rejection from stuff you like doing or have an affinity for will make you all postal. maybe this tard principal is creating tomorrow's genocidal maniac, keep an eye on the ones he kicks out of school.
Please tell me people aren't bringing up Hitler? The people in charge now had nothing to do with him and if you've ever been on a motorway (or whatever you call them) or a computer you're connected to the Nazis as much as anyone else.
He's correct in saying that Video games can turn a kid into a maniac but so can TV, books, music, the internet, religion and paintings. In fact any sort of expression can rot away someone's brain but so can taking it away. So if we can't live with expression and we can't live without it then we should censor all life and ban all thinking
Even if there isn’t a monocausally relation between excessive thinking and use of imagination, leading to acts of violence, it still provides a twisted frame of reference of solutions for their problems and hardships, that they learn – and may transfer to the real world under certain circumstances.
By his logic the humane thing to do is kill all humans.
He's correct in saying that Video games can turn a kid into a maniac but so can TV, books, music, the internet, religion and paintings. In fact any sort of expression can rot away someone's brain but so can taking it away. So if we can't live with expression and we can't live without it then we should censor all life and ban all thinking
Even if there isn’t a monocausally relation between excessive thinking and use of imagination, leading to acts of violence, it still provides a twisted frame of reference of solutions for their problems and hardships, that they learn – and may transfer to the real world under certain circumstances.
By his logic the humane thing to do is kill all humans.
It's just populism. No one can ban videogames. I live in Germany and give a fuck about censorship, because I import games via internet. End of story.
Video games.
Because blaming school shootings on an highly stratified, Lord-Of-The-Flies-esque social order combined with the unpredictable digressions of the human mind is just too hard, dammit.
Because blaming school shootings on an highly stratified, Lord-Of-The-Flies-esque social order combined with the unpredictable digressions of the human mind is just too hard, dammit.
I just saw on the news, no "killergames" where found at that guy´s home.
But why not blame them anyway.
But why not blame them anyway.
Heh, bring on the posts of US superiority, even though your own country tries to do the same shit all the time.
*EDIT BUTTON!!* I didn't mean to imply that all residents of the US feel this way, I was just throwing it out that some people are going to say stupid things.
Who am I gonna believe this guy or a Buddhist monk? C'mon! If I have to choose between banning video games and reaching nirvana it's not gonna be a hard pick.
Maybe Germany should take all the violent games and shove them into an oven, like they do with all the other things that they disagree with.
I spent four days in Berlin last year on a school trip and never once did I see a videogame with any type of violence it! It's just stupid! Why does every videogame with a gun or a blood splatter in it have to be banned or edited into a new game in Germany. And to the statement of every solution involving killing people, that's complete bollocks. Maybe if Germany would give Fallout 3 the green light, they would realise that you don't have to kill everyone to solve a problem. 50% of the time, yeah... you probably do, but there's also the option of talking things out :P
Oh, boy. Here comes the government and the crazies. Let's blame everything else except the parents, his peers, and society's inability to accept people.
I'm willing to bet that this kid was an ostracized loner with parents who didn't give a crap and had a low self esteem as a result of no one bothering to really be a friend to him.
Oh...lol...I decided to just read the actual article before posting and they say this:
Herrmann said a preliminary investigation showed the teen had no perceivable history of trouble, but students at the school described him as a loner.
Nailed it.
I'm willing to bet that this kid was an ostracized loner with parents who didn't give a crap and had a low self esteem as a result of no one bothering to really be a friend to him.
Oh...lol...I decided to just read the actual article before posting and they say this:
Herrmann said a preliminary investigation showed the teen had no perceivable history of trouble, but students at the school described him as a loner.
Nailed it.
i find that video games have the same effect on me. not that i want to become a homicidal maniac, but after playing harvest moon i really have the urge to start a farm.
What causes psychos to appear in society has more to do with oppressive/repressive societies bearing down upon its populace with the notion that they somehow know what's best for their people as a whole.
Very reich-wing thinking.
Very reich-wing thinking.
There was homocidal maniacs way before videogames,
ofc art is always a easyer target than politics, i think the real issue here is how a teenager got his hands on a weapon.
Seems to me that gun control is eaiser than game control ofc i am a "crazy liberal" what do i know
ofc art is always a easyer target than politics, i think the real issue here is how a teenager got his hands on a weapon.
Seems to me that gun control is eaiser than game control ofc i am a "crazy liberal" what do i know
@Doos
I'm sure he majority of us would agree with you. We're a cynical people. Negative and self-loathing and a bit unappreciative of just how god damn good we've got it. *sigh* My wonderful stupid ass coutry.
That said somebody needs to trademark Killergames. NOW!
I'm sure he majority of us would agree with you. We're a cynical people. Negative and self-loathing and a bit unappreciative of just how god damn good we've got it. *sigh* My wonderful stupid ass coutry.
That said somebody needs to trademark Killergames. NOW!
I'm sure it was said above, but wow... Germany blaming video games for violence? How many games existed in oh, say... 1940?
This just in! German officials attempting to ban reality based on the evidence that "there is too much violence in the world and obivously reality is the cause of the violence."
I can contest to this. I've been playing video games for 20 years and I've probably murdered around 1,000,000 people or more.
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