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5:00 AM on 10.19.2009
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Nice to see no one else in germany is as dumb as those people.
Goes to show these people almost never have any clue about what they are talking...
I'm sorry but this, this is what I live for. Watching idiots get put in their place, being shut up, and overall (hopefully) being embarassed into rethinking their stupidity.
Sadly that rarely ever happens. :(
First of all i'm happy, that no on responded to their mordern book burning. Seems we learned something from our history after all.
On the other hand i can't really blame those people for their actions.
Loosing you child to a school shooting must be the most horrible thing that can happen to someone.
Even if it's the wrong action, if it helps them get over their pain, let them burn some games.
On a side note: the official page of these people states that they got to talk with some gamers and that everyone was respectful with each other.
They say although not many games were dumped, it was a good thing to talk to the gamers.
i lold so hard at the empty container i thought i was going to pass out.
Hey, if a dialogue was created, the event at least did something right.
Okay...I'll be less harsh. Especially the parents who raised the shooters will never admit, nor want to hear, that they raised a killer. And vice versa I'm almost completely sure no grieving parent wants to, or even has the nerve to, call the killers parents out on piss poor parenting/environment/etc.
Damn. Actually now I almost feel bad there wasn't a bigger turn out. Or at least a few pity hugs thrown their way.
If their child had died in a car accident that wasn't their fault, they wouldn't be asking that people torch their cars. If the accident was due to drunk driving, they wouldn't ask people to round up their liquor cabinets and destroy them. And I somehow doubt that if their kid had been fat and died of, say, sleep apnea, they'd call for everyone to burn their Twinkies and biscuits and so on.
These people picked games because they were an easy target, and because they're among the morons who still believe that video games - regardless of whether or not the kid has an involved family, or a strong moral fiber - somehow cause this random and intense spike in violent tendency. Put plainly, they're idiots who have no interest in educating themselves.
I feel sorry for the kid and I *understand* that they're grieved, but I don't *care*. Not even grieving in an excuse for stupid.
It is correct that certain types of Games shouldn´t be available to minors (here comes a but) but in my opinion the parents are to blame....
parents have to look after their children. When I was young and bashed in some neighbour´s window and the neighbour caught me I would get a ding around the ear from him and afterwards the wraith of my mother would engulf me. Nowadays
it´s all about lawyers and how certain types of entertainment are making you violent and bloodthirsty...
I think parents should be aware of their duty to look after their children and burning or otherwise distroying forms of media they deem dangerous is not one of them.
Flaw in your argument. None of those things, except maybe drunk driving, is a product of a human action against another human which is far more traumatizing than sleep apnea. And who's to say if it were drunk driving they wouldn't have been roused up about liquor and driving?
I'm not saying they're not picking games because they're an easy target. That's a big "Duhr!" I'm pretty sure we all here can agree on that.
But to say your lack of sympathy for their stupidity stems from some biased that wouldn't have proven itself evident in a nonconfrontational death isn't entirely logical. A confrontational death would've definitely pushed them over the edge.
It'd make more sense to say they have a bias and leave it at that. I mean, again, that's obvious consensus we've all come to.
And a lack of education doesn't make them idiots. A lack of reason does. What's there to learn?
Why am I even talking so much? I need sleep. Fucking graveyard shifts.
Why do these people never want to ban the guns, or make weapon ownership rules tougher?
I apologize, because of that they are too stupid to realize that guns and fucked up circumstances kill ppl. The father of the gunner in Winnenden was in a weapon shop together with his son..so..ehm..mh... ban all weapons for ppl, who has no really reason to own them. Not games...wtf..
England has become a bit of a crime ridden shithole, because the criminals know thanks to a bunch of naive human rights bleeding hearts, prison will be easy for them, and that there will be no real consequences to their actions, and they will probably be out again in no time.
The sad fact is, the worst of society need to be kept in check with an iron fist and punished. If people see others killing and murdering with little consequence, that will lead to more violence. Fear of the law in england seems pretty much nonexistant now because they have become so neutered.
Parents and politicians should look at trying to re-establish law and punishment so it might actually be more effective than focusing on fictional games.
And btw: The San Andreas Game was "sponsored" by the organisator, and the gameboy game was broken.
@electricteenagedust: It's good that there was a dialogue with the gamers but that automatically raises the question: why wasn't there a dialogue BEFORE they made fools out of themselves?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_VtIkF8pDY
The point is, that people who are angry about violence in society should try to fix a law system that has been damaged and bruised by human rights loonies and bleeding, naive hearts, not blaming fictional entertainment.
My German is a bit off, but JESUS CHRIST, I thought we were over this shit years ago.
I saw make games more realistic. After knifing someone and seeing their intestines roll out, and hearing your avatar hurk a little, it'd make someone think twice.
I am against banning games OR guns.
But of all the people in america who owns guns, I bet 90% of those gun owners have never shot anyone or even been in the position too, much like in canada.
I mean there's gun crime in england, and we have a ban of guns, so it really does nothing. Bad assholes are gonna get hold of guns, ban or not. Thats why they are bad people, folks. Banning home owners from having guns is just making it so they can't defend themselves as well as they should if the need arose.
Agreed, absolutely entirely.
Games in Europe as a whole are ridiculously priced. 70€ for a new Xbox 370 /PS3 game? That's about 104$!!!
There is only one problem with your argument, although I totally see where you're coming from. There is actually no proven correlation between the severity of punishment and the occurance of crimes. Even though one may tend to think so.
Put simply: There is no such thing as deterrence. People are going to hurt people. In several states of the USA, the f'in death penalty is imposed. And it's actually hard to think of a punishment more severe than that, without venturing into sick fuck territory. I might not have my numbers right, but I don't remember the crime rates in those states to be significantly lower than elsewhere.
Or at least not so that you can correlate that to the penalty.
How close did anyone get to George W with petrol and a lighter ?
No serious, wtf has this to do with the bad things that happened in the 20th century? - Ignorant and arrogant americans, that's why the whole world hates you.