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If someone unlocks a door knowing there are crooks out there, they don't care who gets in. That's the real point here and I hope Sony can handle this correctly and geohot finally get the reality check he deserves
Pirates won't buy their games, but they'll donate to him?
But seriously, I don't see how a grand jury would even let this into court after they already decided it's legal to jailbreak your iPhone. Any time a big corporation sues an individual, I hope the company, if they lose, pays the legal fees and pay out huge penalties of their own. It's not really fair.
But seriously, I don't see how a grand jury would even let this into court after they already decided it's legal to jailbreak your iPhone. Any time a big corporation sues an individual, I hope the company, if they lose, pays the legal fees and pay out huge penalties of their own. It's not really fair.
If the security was so easily broken, it would have been some other asshat with far more programming and reverse-engineering skills than you, I, or anyone else in this fucking room. So, to that I say: do not blame the asshat who broke it, blame the asshats who made it so easy to break.
Where Sony would have made a right move is by hiring this guy instead of trying to out-douche the douchebags. This would have been preferable to making a martyr for those who would follow in his footsteps, no matter what direction they pointed them in (piracy or otherwise).
He might be a bit of a prick, but Sony is the one who gave his voice the power to carry how it does now. Remember that.
Where Sony would have made a right move is by hiring this guy instead of trying to out-douche the douchebags. This would have been preferable to making a martyr for those who would follow in his footsteps, no matter what direction they pointed them in (piracy or otherwise).
He might be a bit of a prick, but Sony is the one who gave his voice the power to carry how it does now. Remember that.
On one hand, I dont think he should be held personally accountable for every PS3 hacker. I think you should be able to put make homebrew games and backup your game discs.
On the other hand, "I had no idea this would happen" hes so full of shit. Like really man? REALLY? Companies like Sony need to hit back at pirates and make some examples, or at least show that they wont just bend over and take it.
On the other hand, "I had no idea this would happen" hes so full of shit. Like really man? REALLY? Companies like Sony need to hit back at pirates and make some examples, or at least show that they wont just bend over and take it.
While I may not agree with everything Geohot ultimately caused, this is a suit that needs to happen, as it is helping the class action over removing OtherOS by pointing out Sony's hypocrisy in the two different stances these two cases represent. And the biggest reason I want to see Sony get their ass handed to them? Because, in the class action, they have argued that they can do whatever they want after your warranty is up, going so far as to say that they don't have to guarantee that your or my PS3 does *anything* after that first year is up.
It's a bit of a heavy read, but it's a good look at how Sony currently feels about it's customers - http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110218181557455
It's a bit of a heavy read, but it's a good look at how Sony currently feels about it's customers - http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110218181557455
Honestly, what he's doing isn't wrong, but he should have seen the consequences of what he was doing.
You don't crack a giant code without having some people take it to the next step.
You don't crack a giant code without having some people take it to the next step.
Instead of being a douchebag he could have taken this all privately to Sony and made shitloads of money.
Now he's going to get the fuck sued out of him.
Now he's going to get the fuck sued out of him.
@Everyday Legend
Sony could not simply hire him. What example would that give? "Show your skills by cracking our system so we can hire you!"?
@Typhonic
Oh, the irony. :)
Sony could not simply hire him. What example would that give? "Show your skills by cracking our system so we can hire you!"?
@Typhonic
Oh, the irony. :)
Man, the tears here are unusually salty! So tasty.
You guys do know that security firms are hired for potentially millions of dollars to crack the security of the client so the weaknesses can be found, and fixed, right?
His comments about "fixing the system" are pretty legitimate. Sony made the OS boot in a VM to prevent piracy, which was the most successful anti-hacking measures implemented (seeing how the Wii and 360 were hacked years ago), but beyond that it seems that they did not do much else in terms of security. They put a lot of eggs in that basket, and now someone figured out how to get into that basket, there isn't much else stopping them from accessing those yolks.
And those yolks are your credit card information. That needs more protection than is currently implemented, so the question stands:
Y u mad tho?
You guys do know that security firms are hired for potentially millions of dollars to crack the security of the client so the weaknesses can be found, and fixed, right?
His comments about "fixing the system" are pretty legitimate. Sony made the OS boot in a VM to prevent piracy, which was the most successful anti-hacking measures implemented (seeing how the Wii and 360 were hacked years ago), but beyond that it seems that they did not do much else in terms of security. They put a lot of eggs in that basket, and now someone figured out how to get into that basket, there isn't much else stopping them from accessing those yolks.
And those yolks are your credit card information. That needs more protection than is currently implemented, so the question stands:
Y u mad tho?
Whats with the hate? its not like this guy forced people to pirate anything or something like that, he just gave them the tools to do it : /
Stop hating on Geohotz people you don't even know him personally xD But still what he did/doing was/is a dick move. >_>
I'd rather see Sony go after some actual pirates.
Rather than try to stretch out this civil lawsuit and plunge this young man into financial ruin.
Rather than try to stretch out this civil lawsuit and plunge this young man into financial ruin.
The guy is clearly a self-righteous ass. I'd have a lot more sympathy if he weren't trying to turn this into some kind of crusade to garner attention for himself.
meh...he's entitled to a defense.
I think he has some grounds on freedom of information, but sony also has some grounds to burn him with distribution of code that breaks open the system to piracy.
I think many more people will side with Sony, but he's not completely screwed. This case is going to be interesting.
I think he has some grounds on freedom of information, but sony also has some grounds to burn him with distribution of code that breaks open the system to piracy.
I think many more people will side with Sony, but he's not completely screwed. This case is going to be interesting.
I hate Geohotz because when he raps, he don't rep da shawties.
HOW YOU GON RAP WHEN YOU DON'T REP YO SHAWTIES? YO SHAWTIES IS ALL YOU GOT, SON. REP YO SHAWTES.
.....now, what did he do? Insult Butler?
HOW YOU GON RAP WHEN YOU DON'T REP YO SHAWTIES? YO SHAWTIES IS ALL YOU GOT, SON. REP YO SHAWTES.
.....now, what did he do? Insult Butler?
What he wrote is entirely clear. You'd know that if you had even the first clue about any of this stuff, Sterling.
@Script-br: Yes, exactly. The line of thinking would be: "Holy shit, you cracked our system. You obviously know your stuff. Here's a job, fix our shit so that it's not so easy to break, because we obviously don't know what we're doing."
Honestly, if it hadn't been for OtherOS, technical people would have had the incentive to hack the PS3 for whatever reason way earlier than they did, and the PS3's security is such a joke that it would have been far and away the first console to have its security completely demolished.
Honestly, if it hadn't been for OtherOS, technical people would have had the incentive to hack the PS3 for whatever reason way earlier than they did, and the PS3's security is such a joke that it would have been far and away the first console to have its security completely demolished.
The Sony defense force is funny as heck to watch right now.
From their sudden surge in love for copyright laws, you'd think they all never downloaded an mp3 or used bittorrent to watch a movie...
From their sudden surge in love for copyright laws, you'd think they all never downloaded an mp3 or used bittorrent to watch a movie...
Seriously you guys? Of course he's a self righteous douchebag. Anyone with eyes could see that. That isn't grounds for being sued, arrested, or going to he'll. Seriously, learn to actually look past that stuff and think on whether or not he Actually deserves to be sued.
If you purchased a computer you would be pissed if it could only run code licensed from a certain corporation. What makes your ps3 any different? Stop acting like Sony owns your hardware and that the money you paid for it is simply for the privilege of doing precisely what they allow.
Anybody who supports this guy is an idiot. You ppl defend this guy and he just continues to do stupid shit. Now he's actin like he had no idea this could possibly happen. Then if that wasn't good enough, he want a "donation" aka "gimme money becuz I'm famous on the internet". These ppl defending him our the same ppl calling activision evil. But instead of him giving you a game for your "donations", he gives you the finger and firmware updates. If you wanna defend homebrew, be my guest. But this guy is a fuckin moron plain and simple.
You're surprised? Yeah right. I'm not a naive 10 years old who believes in some hacker logic. You have the brains to hack hardware that thwarted hackers for years and you're pretending that you pretend not knowing it would happen? Laughable. You have to be a naive idiot to believe that.
You're surprised? Yeah right. I'm not a naive 10 years old who believes in some hacker logic. You have the brains to hack hardware that thwarted hackers for years and you're pretending that you didn't know it would happen? Laughable. You have to be a naive idiot to believe that.
This has been the reason I disliked him from the start.
I don't care what you condone or how much you shrug your shoulders and say "ain't my fault". If I cut someone a key to your front door and they walk in and take everything you own, it's not technically my fault all your possessions are gone, is it? Bet you're still going to be pretty mad at me for enabling the whole thing though, and won't I look like a total cock when I go "But I didn't steal a thing LOL!"
Either he's an idiot and didn't actually know this would happen or an asshole and did it anyway. One way or the other, he made my hobby worse for me, so he gets zero support.
I don't care what you condone or how much you shrug your shoulders and say "ain't my fault". If I cut someone a key to your front door and they walk in and take everything you own, it's not technically my fault all your possessions are gone, is it? Bet you're still going to be pretty mad at me for enabling the whole thing though, and won't I look like a total cock when I go "But I didn't steal a thing LOL!"
Either he's an idiot and didn't actually know this would happen or an asshole and did it anyway. One way or the other, he made my hobby worse for me, so he gets zero support.
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