ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER

I am a number! I hope it's one that either maker a funny word in LEET or backwards on a calculator.

I wrote a sequal to Brave New World. As you can tell by my spelling it was awesome.

im a number! not a name! im a part, of your stupid fucked up game! -T.S.O.L.

Schell is nuts, not normal nuts...saggy nuts.

a police-state happening through videogames is hilarious though, i see a Farrelly Brothers movie in the works!

What hell did I just read?

People live in fear of video game publishers?

WTF?

And still Anthony will not elaborate on why this was posted.

"Please stop with your pretentious articles anthony."

It's not Anthony thats being pretentious. There are actually people out there that are overdramatizing certain videogame related issues like Microsofts Achievement points for instance.

"controlled and manipulated by these games and point systems."

This is already happening, and has been for a long time. Why Schell has felt the need to bring it up now is beyond me. Doesn't seem like an issue to me. Not everyone falls under the category of being easily swayed and controlled. I don't think too many people that read Destuctoid will agree with Schell.

What he should have said is the war has always been here. Mankind has always had friends and foes.

I definitely haven't followed Jesse Schell's talks, but I find the idea that there is a war between "designers who want to make money" and "artists" to be laughable. If these artists aren't worried about money, where is the war? We have constitutional safeguards in place to guarantee that artists are not going to have their views silenced by the state. So, these artists can continue creating art and not making money as long as they please.

Every single genre of art has good and bad commercial art as well as good and bad non-commercial art; that's never going to change. If anything, we'll see even more non-commercial games as the barriers to entering game design continue to decrease.

Is Schell suggesting that we try to silence these money-hungry designers because he doesn't find their work to be of value? If so, that sounds a bit hypocritical.

I've finally gotten around to reading Brave New World, and half-way through the book I'm having a hard time empathizing with Bernard. I'm thinking maybe something at the end is going to happen that'll make me think "This wasn't such a good idea after all.", but as of now, I don't see a problem with a world full of people happy with their lot in life... even if it is the result of brain-washing.

I guess the concern being the creation of games that are by corporate market amalgamation versus a unique singular vision. I think games production ends up being a melding of the creative visionary and the market savvy business man.

One could say the producer has the power to sway this war: the guy that shapes the final product via the will of his artists and the restriction of his payrollers.

Considering this conceit in terms of work flow, wouldn't the onus be on swaying producers to passionately rally their position as the holders of balance in the working games development world?

Link to Schell's DICE talk added. Welcome to two weeks ago.

It's not so dire as any kind of -pocalypse, but people really should be more responsible with, or at least observant of, the social/cultural implications of a LOT of the things that have been going down or progressing over the past few years.

Have you ever seen somebody get into a relationship with somebody, and you were pretty sure it wasn't going to work out? Well, some people feel like they're on the outside looking in, and it doesn't seem all that bad to the people living it because it's gradual and contextual.

But, be fair. Status through achievement mongering, blog hits, Twitter followers and everything else is becoming a very big deal in ways that didn't matter at all five years ago.

Welcome to two weeks ago? Wouldn't it make sense for you, the author, to make your work more accessible to those of us who cannot find the time to watch every DICE speech. Or are you just worried about getting a post up quickly and making a buck? You sound like one of those "designers" my buddy Schell warned me about.

Also, care to weigh in on the situation? Most of us seem absolutely baffled by what is going on in this guy's head, but you seemed to think it was worth reporting. What is your opinion on the matter?

I still think its just a fad-like extension of the cult of "Reality" television. We can still opt out of this nonsense. I don't twitter. Colbert does. I enjoy his show, but disregard his twitter. Is he any less famous because a ton of his viewers also don't care about twitter? Of course not. Social currency, or whatever the hell these eggheads are calling it, is still generally earned the old fashioned way, through gained prestige, and whether that's achieved through art or commerce, very little has actually changed. There still is, and probably always will be the born-rich, born-socially-advantageous, and yes, we are all outsiders looking in on those few people. But who cares. All this Brave New World, Apocalypse-mongering is just crying wolf.

Huxley, you warned us.

Ford be praised.

Do you mean that life is a game and that all these different little games we will be playing with advertisers, governments, insurance companies and breakfast cereals are the metagames?

Did any of you actually listen to the speech? He meanders a lot at the beginning, and I'd rather read a transcript, but Schell is addressing an important issue. Game-ification of work is a huge way the corporate world will attempt to boost worker productivity, at the possible cost of worker quality-of-life.

The business about toothpaste is silly, and having our grandchildren know what we read doesn't disturb me, but new "life meta-games" would be a huge way for marketers to influence our behavior. I played WOW post-Wrath--I've seen how intensely driven people can be, to complete pointless achievement tasks with no real reward.

don't hate the player, hate the game

Self appointed 'Humanitarians' fuck shit up and makes monstrous messes every bit as terrible as the persuaders. What a self righteous, masturbatory, intellectually lazy prick trapped in a messianic juvenile mindset this guy is. The road to hell really is paved with good intentions and bad intentions alike. Wild passiona and soft hearts are NOT a sure path to wisdom any more than commercialism is.

This is the kind of crap attitude that yields grandiose bumper stickers that narcissistically yammer on about random acts of kindness and visualizing whirled peas as though that is all it takes to improve human lives or change the world in a positive way.

Hey game developers: Try making game that your customers actually want and giving them good value while doing so. Then shut up. Don't try to convince your customers that YOU get to unilaterally define good value. Don't try to sell them on some controversial ideological message that only appeals to one sad corner of the population. This industry really is NOT just about you. You are not here to save us from ourselves or bring us primitives the secrets of metallurgy and crop cultivation down from on high. You don't even glow. Make games that we want to buy, tell us about them, and then maybe we'll buy them.

I agree with your conclusions and will eagerly look forward to your next update. Saying thanks will not just be sufficient, for the wonderful clarity in your writing.
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