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GDC 10: God of War III game director says game's visuals could be improved photo

God of War III looks amazing. I can't stress that enough, and I'm still impressed even after having completed the game for review. But according to the game's director, Sig Asmussen, there's plenty of room for improvements, which we'll see in Sony Santa Monica's next title. 

"Well, I think our studio will use this engine again," he told me today, "and it'll get better. And I think we're probably about 50- or 60-percent at it right now. I think there's a lot more we can do with it."

What improvements could be made? For one, Asmussen says the game's animation system could be tweaked. In fact, he says they already have the tech. 

"I think individually our animations are incredible," he said, "and our animators are incredibly talented. But I think we could make our system technically better, in the way we blend animations. And I'm pretty sure that we already have the code to do that, and we just didn't implement it in God of War III because it came in real late."

He also points to other obvious engine improvements, including lighting, seamlessly transitioning from cut-scenes to gameplay, and more. 

While this might seem like a "captain obvious" -- of course it's working to improve its engine -- looking at God of War III, it's exciting to imagine what could come next. My head, it has exploded.  


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Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 19:42
Harris Hatsworth
You misspelled both Peter Molyneux and Fable III, what is this, a Jim Sterling article?
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 19:55
Kalmah
What? Neither of those are written in this article. What are you smoking?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 19:59
Xzyliac
@Kalmah
I think it was a really bad joke.
Videodrone31's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 19:59
Videodrone31
I get it.
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 20:05
Harris Hatsworth
Wow, comment trolls are stupider than I had prepared myself for.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 20:16
Xzyliac
Come now Harris. Why so personal?
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 20:28
RenegadePanda
Why is everyone creaming their pants over GoW3's graphics, anyway?

They look good, but they're far from great.
Aara123's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 20:31
Aara123
Harris Hatsworth is a dumb butt, and RenagadePanda needs glasses
craigbezzle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 20:31
craigbezzle
Panda, what console game looks better at the moment? Please do not tell me Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2, Mass Effect 2, or MW2...because you'd be lying.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 20:34
Xzyliac
Um, at the risk of being torn apart, I agree with Panda.

*shield*
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 20:35
Los255
ONLY ON THE PS3!
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 20:55
RenegadePanda
@craigbezzle

Not saying anything looks better, but those graphics are nowhere near as amazing as everyone says they are. Yeah, they're good, but everything could be a lot better. God Of War 3, from everything I've seen, played and experienced just looks like an HD remake of God of War 2. I don't get why it's such a big deal, nor did I get the huge 'zomg' reaction behind Uncharted 2's graphics.
DreRox's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:02
DreRox
@Renegade, Yep. Uncharted 2's graphics raised the bar for me and God of War 3 didn't quite reach it.
craigbezzle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:05
craigbezzle
I agree, they could be better---but I do feel that it's the best looking console game I've seen personally. Uncharted 2 was a joke, honestly.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:09
Super Drybones
I lost my shoe today.
T3h Kaiser's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:11
T3h Kaiser
Why is everyone in a rush to push graphical boundaries? =/
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:33
RenegadePanda
@x1251

Yeah, I'm trolling because I don't bow down to God of War. Shut up, dumbass. I'm stating my opinion, and my opinion is the graphics aren't this godlike fucking creation that everyone makes them out to be. And if you would actually think (a concept for you, I'm sure) before commenting, you'd realize that you can still be good at something, but not the best. Just because there is nothing to compare it to doesn't automatically mean you're the greatest at what you do. If a Pinto were the most reliable car on the market, would it be the best car just because you had nothing to compare it to? You sir, are an idiot, which every one of your moronic comments fully displays. You can't even make a logical comment without bashing someone else or the topic itself. I didn't realize having an opinion made you a troll now. I guess were all trolls to you, unless we agree with you.

Fuck off already.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:38
Xzyliac
Wow Panda. That was...angry. I didn't you did that.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:39
Xzyliac
*didn't know
Exrecaller's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:39
Exrecaller
... I don't get this, is the game even out in the US? If not, wtf does everyone who hasn't played the game have something to say about it's graphics. Seriously...
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:47
RenegadePanda
@Xzyliac

Every now and then, especially when I'm tired.

I also played Yakuza 3 earlier...which left me craving Japanese food and full of rage. Probably not healthy.

I'm a bit dizzy too.
SnatchTease's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:47
SnatchTease
T3h Kaiser: "Why is everyone in a rush to push graphical boundaries?"

Since Pong.
Revariance's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 21:54
Revariance
People are quick to judge GoW3's graphics when they've only played a demo that's 8 or 9 months old, videos on the interwebs, and seen screens.

I never thought Final Fantasy 13 looked that great til I popped it into my ps3 and saw it on my 40' Bravia. I'm pretty sure this is going to be the same way.

Let's hold off judgment until we actually play the game ourselves! Crazy fucking concept, right?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:03
Xzyliac
@Revariance, Exrecaller
To be fair graphics are the one thing you can probably judge without playing the game most of the time. If it looks better when I play the game than that's all fine and dandy but I think graphics are an exception to the "Wait and see," policy.

I mean it's graphics. Not that hard to judge.

I'll point out that I wasn't impressed with Crysis either (and not impressed with Crysis 2). So maybe I'm just a fickle bitch.
mrandydixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:04
mrandydixon
Damn, looks like I missed out on all x1251 fun. Maybe next thread.

Thanks for being my stand-in, Panda.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:05
RenegadePanda
@Revariance

I agree, I'm not judging the game or the graphics, just giving my opinion. I'm not trying to say the game or the graphics suck, I just think they're getting a little too over hyped. And really, that statement works both ways...how does everyone know the game looks so amazing if it's not out? Based on the comments of one person (and we all know this is somewhat subjective)? And screenshots? Anyway, point made, I do agree we shouldn't judge. I may come off as judgemental, but it's not intentional.
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:07
broonor
@Exrecaller since the reintroduction of fanboism people comment on graphics while staring at a blurry monitor from across the room streaming an ad if it promotes their agenda. I agree it wasn't "mindblowing" if you were going in to it thinking "THIS IS GOING TO HAVE THE BEST GRAFIX EVAR" but it sure is sleek and smooth. And that was based on the old demo.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:10
Crunshii
panda is a fool. Sorry no offense but your statement just did not make any sense. Please do show us what is godlike graphics to you because that is a very oblique response.
Revariance's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:10
Revariance
@Xzyliac

You're not wrong at all. I should elaborate. Look at all the video reviews on GoW3. If you you've watched a few than by now you'll probably notice how they all show the same footage. Basically stuff that has been in trailers that we've already seen. That being said, GoW is doing a lot of technically impressive stuff with scale and 'camera' work that most people haven't even gotten a glimpse of. If you played Uncharted 2(arguably the most graphically impressive game of last year), you'll remember most of the breath taking moments in that game were very subtle. A loud, abrasive, explosive game...with touches of subtlety. Don't be surprised to see the same thing here.
Rockefellow's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:12
Rockefellow
Renegade Panda;

my copy looks far better than the E3 demo, as I assume this is all you have to fairly compare it to.

In my opinion, it tops all other "graphic whore" games out there. Not just the graphics, but the details, the amount of things happening at once in extreme complexity, fantastic animations and backgrounds...

I can't gush enough. I am a GoW fanboy, though. Take it as you will.
Corbanski's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:14
Corbanski
Renegade Panda you have completed my night
T3h Kaiser's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:15
T3h Kaiser
See, Revariance seems to me like he's a classy bastard. Look at him elaborating!

Renagade Panda and x1251 should be more like Revariance.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:17
RenegadePanda
@x1251

Stop putting words in my mouth, first off. I NEVER said anything you're saying I did, you're blowing my statement out of proportion. I'm saying they look good, but could look better. How is that a 'mindfuck' at all? Things don't have two levels of being, shit is more complex than that. Saying something is great (or whatever term) means it has to have some standard of quality above the average, which IMO, God Of War does not. You can only make a point by misinterpreting my comment, which is beyond stupid. Now shut the fuck up, if anyone here is a troll, it's you. My comment wasn't designed in the least to piss anyone off, you were the only one who even gave a shit enough to take it seriously. It's people like you that ruin this site, I'm sorry but you rank up there with Birthmark and other assholes that post for no reason other than to say something or someone sucks. Get the fuck out of here, will you?
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:21
RenegadePanda
@Corbanski

You're welcome. I'll be here all week.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:26
Xzyliac
@Revariance
That being said, GoW is doing a lot of technically impressive stuff with scale and 'camera' work that most people haven't even gotten a glimpse of.

Yeah that's where I'm expecting to be impressed. Not with how the game looks but with how it handles itself technically.

It's a mother fucking God of War game on a mother fucking PS3 for Christ sakes.
VashTS's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:30
VashTS
The only thing that disapoints me is the lack of dynamic shadows. This one light source for 1 shadow BS is so PS2!!!!!
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:44
HEL105
It's amusing that so much anger would be evident in comments about God of War. Maybe video games really do make people more violent!

@RenegadePanda
Some things are just not worth getting stressed about. Case in point.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:56
Hcapt
Weird that there is so much importance placed on the graphics. Frankly, I would no longer be able to tell the difference between this and double quality anyway, so the extra %50 would be lost on me.

To be blunt, graphics are no longer worth the investment. Either make them perfect, as in indistinguishable from reality, or make them pretty. But whatever they do, they shouldn't go for what video games consider realism, because right now video game characters look like plastic. Incredibly, incredibly detailed and expensive plastic that isn't human nor particularly appealing. And somehow, I doubt doubling the graphics with the God of War style would convince anyone that they are actually there though.

Please, please make a game where a golem like that looks like it actually exists before my eyes as a moving mountain rather than having the obvious give-aways of video game objects. Make a game I confuse for national geographic or history channel if the graphics are going to be upped.
T3h Kaiser's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 23:04
T3h Kaiser
@Hcapt
It's called Uncanny Valley, and it's exactly why this race for ultra-realism is pointless.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 23:22
Hcapt
@ T3h Kaiser
I'm aware of the term, and I would agree if I thought that was the end goal. I saw a baseball game on the PS3 that nearly scaled the other side, and that impressed me because it took me a while to realize it wasn't an actual baseball game (don't remember the name, it was a gamestop demo). And Avatar the movie also beat the uncanny valley, though admittedly, gaming tech isn't there. But right now, these developers are deliberately doing things that mean no amount of tech could beat it's way up and convince me it's real. People are not shiny. Reality doesn't define depth nearly as well as a video game. And the features of most objects are not that defined. The most graphically intense PS3 games are actually overshooting reality, which I find disappointing because I know it is possible to get much closer, I've seen it done with baseball.

No more shiny, no more detail, no more sharp distinguishing. There is too much flash in video games for me to confuse television and virtual reality, which makes the top everyone is racing towards something other than the most realistic graphics.

Maybe they just want the most expensive graphics?
T3h Kaiser's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 23:41
T3h Kaiser
Avatar beat the Uncanny Valley? Funny, I was unsettled for nearly the entire film. That sex scene was just plain weird and uncomfortable.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 00:04
EternalDeathSlayer
Why the fuck are people arguing over this shit? The game looks phenomenal. I would definitely not call it "the best" but then again I've only played the demo and seen pictures and trailers, really. Surely they're hiding stuff from us, right?

Most reviews seem to be saying similar things, such as "the visuals are uneven, at times they're the best you've ever seen and at other times they're just good"

That's pretty much the impression I got from the demo, for what it's worth. You guys need to relax and just get ready for Tuesday.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 00:05
Hcapt
@ T3h Kaiser
I agree, alien sex scenes were unnecesary and unhelpful.

I don't know how much of a difference watching the movie in 3D versus 2D is. I watched it in 3D, and it was completely impossible for me to tell where CGI began and reality ended. On second thought, you're right it didn't beat the uncanny valley. At all. The aliens looked human enough to be unsettling, but that's mostly an issue with the character rather than the technology.

What I liked about Avatar was that I could not tell reality from CGI, and I think games should emulate that graphically. But yeah, don't emulate alien love interests.
ace of knaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 00:21
ace of knaves
Thank you, EDS.
SnatchTease's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 01:23
SnatchTease
I find the lack of cock and balls to be disturbing.
GRiVEN's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 01:30
GRiVEN
@ Hcapt
I agree about games looking "better" than reality. There's a crispness that unnatural about most things current gen. There's a lack of atmospheric visuals most the time. It seems like things are too "dimensional", for lack of a better term. There's a absence of visual tactility for me: grim, dust, fog, and wind. Most graphics still seem static to me. Unmoving. Unbelievable.

Off hand, some visuals that have impressed me recently, in a tactile way (if that makes any sense) are Final Fantasy XIII and Bad Company 2. I remember staring through my sniper scope in Bad Company 2 (on PC) and seeing trash blow by. It looked real to me, the way it drifted and spun through the air. Little touches like that are nice. In Final Fantasy XIII, every once in a while there's a texture I feel like I could reach out and touch. Sazh's coat in particular tends to mesmerize me. It has a look of starchiness to me that makes me feel it whenever I see it.

I think that small touches like that, more than anything else, are what game designers need to pay attention to.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 02:03
Hcapt
@ x1251 - The graphics may very well be the best I've ever seen. That doesn't make them a big deal anymore. Grand Turisom 5 and Final Fantasy XIII may have the best graphics ever, but the fact that I dislike turn-based JRPGs and realistic driving sims means that unless they bring something new to the formula, I will still not like those games, nor will I be any more likely to buy them. The graphics simply are not a big deal on their own.

They look kinda gamey if you ask me. Shiny, detailed, but mostly just improvements over old styles rather than a great leap into realism.

@ RenegadePanda - Responding angrily only makes you seem unintelligent.

@ Griven - I LOVE when there's a texture with that "reach out and touch" feel. If there's enough of those in Versus XIII, I might have to buy myself a Playstation 3.
Jibberwocky's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 02:47
Jibberwocky
As long as we're all talking about graphics, I've just gotta say the specular looks shit in everything I've seen of this game. Things are shiny that shouldn't be just to show off the details. Otherwise, it's completely gorgeous.
EnigmaticHarle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 03:17
EnigmaticHarle
[i]RenagadePanda
@x1251

If a Pinto were the most reliable car on the market, would it be the best car just because you had nothing to compare it to?[/i]

Perfectly good comparison here... oh, what's this?

[i]x1251
If the Pinto is the only care on the market, that would mean IT IS THE BEST, Because obviously there are no other cars that fucking work, you retard.[/i]

Ummm... http://www.thereisnothingtosaytothis.com

To be honest, I never looked up exactly what troll meant until just now and sir, you fit the bill. I think it's about time to close up shop...

But wait, what's this? Doth my eyes deceive me?

[i]x1251
@Rentagay Panda

You're not a very bright person, so don't front like you are. The Pinto metaphor made this abundantly clear to everyone reading.[/i]

a•bun•dant [uh-buhn-duhnt]
–adjective
1.present in great quantity; more than adequate; over sufficient: an abundant supply of information.
2.well supplied; abounding: a brain abundant in knowledge.
3.richly supplied: an abundant thread.

Case Closed

Still, anyone who has not played the final game cannot say a damn thing about the graphics until they have seen it with their own eyes, playing it at its optimal settings. You can't trust pictures let alone video quality on the internet or your computer. Your monitor is not your TV (except in rare cases) and the graphics card is not a PS3. Even the GoW pictures that you can download off of the PSN do not compare to the game in motion.

I say don’t judge things until you’ve tried them (Unless they’re people, that’s a different story).
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 04:36
Sexualchocolate
OK, so they're not "Godlike" graphics, but they're probably the best we've seen on this generation of consoles, probably on par, if not slightly better than Uncharted 2.

... but they do only go 50-60% of the way they can with the engine, the engine that's only possible on PS3.

Your butthurt is showing Panda. ; )

I have to agree with someone above, Bad Company 2 looks fantastic, it's not that textures and animations are flawless, it's when you can see the sunlight coming through the trees, or the trash blowing around, or the dust from a near by explosion.

it just feels real, despite not being teh bestest grafix in teh wurld!
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