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Jason Rohrer has possibly been one of the most interesting forces in creating artistically legitimate videogames; any opportunity to listen to the dude will probably not result in time wasted.

Rohrer's IGS lecture, "Beyond Single Player: Hunting for an Artistic Niche," focused on the idea that videogames in general may be wasting time and effort by focusing so predominately on single player experiences when the realm of multiplayer interaction might potentially bear greater fruit.

Maybe.

No answers were promised by Rohrer, only questions. In this sense, he more than delievered. Hit the jump for a summary of the talk.

The starting point for Jason's lecture is the acknowledgement that games have a cultural legitimacy problem, that games exist in a cultural ghetto. Above the cultural line in the sand, you have theatre and novels and film and rock and roll, but below the line you have mainstream videogames like Zelda or MGS2. As fun as the games are, they're not Lolita. How can you get across that line into the “snooty club,” as Jason called it to scattered audience chuckling?

Games are a lot like film in many ways. How does film do it? Graphically, we keep seeing graphics get better and better and games keep attempting to reach filmlike levels of quality through those graphics, moving toward this constant ideal of totally realistic interactive experiences that are basically movies, but better, because they've got interactivity. In reality, however, this leads to stuff like MGS4 with more noninteractive material than interactive material. Games that drop these cut scenes like BioShock are better for it, but even then you're still stuck with the idea of a linear, authored narrative stringing along pockets of interactivity. Movies and novels find a way to be expressive in their own unique ways, where games are still aping other art forms even when they get rid of cut scenes. This is hurting games' attempt at solving the legitimacy problem – if games eventually make it all the way and feel just like movies, then what? We already have movies.

Artgames attempt to use game mechanics to speak to the human condition rather than narrative (a slide represents Braid, The Marriage, etc). These games are really interesting, but they still don't spring across the cultural line in the sand. But there's still one guy in the world who has done more to advance the games legitimacy question than anyone else.

And that's Roger Ebert. He's the perfect straw man, who you can attempt to disprove through game design. A lot of people argue against Ebert by suggesting that he just doesn't know what he's talking about, but what game would those people really show Ebert to prove the medium's merit? Would you really think that Ocarina of Time would convince him?

What about Go, the 4000 year old board game? You can come back to it over and over throughout life and consistently find new and interesting things in it. In order for the gameplay to be legitimately artistic, the gameplay itself needs to be inexhaustibly deep and infinitely replayable in the way that Go is. That seems like the holy grail of design, but it's so difficult to achieve that most don't even attempt it (even stuff like Braid or Rohrer's Passage lend themselves to multiple reinterpretations, but the gameplay itself isn't deep enough to lend itself to infinite replay).

However, infinite replayability is a remarkably common denominator for classic board games. What do these games have that videogames don't have? “The only ingredient I could come up with is that all these games have multiple players,” Rohrer answers. A game, by many definitions, requires many players. Before videogames and computers, there are very, very, very few examples of singleplayer games apart from rare examples like Solitaire, which is really just “a puzzle with randomized initial conditions.” If that randomization isn't present, as is the case in many old arcade games, designers attempted to fill that void with depth through reflex challenges which, for the average person, have “essentially infinite” challenge offerings. These three goals for making infinitely interesting singleplayer games – multi-step puzzles, randomization, and reflex challenge – culminate in Tetris.

Yet, there's something artistically unsatisfying about something like Tetris or other randomization-based challenges.

German board games have a crapload of interlocking mechanics, however, and that makes them interesting, so what if you do that in singleplayer games like Rohrer's Gravitation? According to Rohrer, it “doesn't really work” because players tend to ignore the emergent meaning you think they should get from the mechanics because the game suggests they focus mainly on getting more points or completing goals or what have you.

“Multiplayer is a fertile soil,” Rohrer says, where the seeds of mechanics can be planted and bloom into infinitely different and infinitely rewarding gameplay variated by player-versus-player interaction. A singleplayer version of Go would be boring and stunted.

Even current games with popular multiplayer like Halo are just reflex challenges built off existing reflex-based singleplayer experiences. These conflicts lead to some interesting questions.

“Are we sort of painting ourselves into the singleplayer corner without realizing it?” Are we avoiding the possibilities of multiplayer by doing so?

Are we missing out on what's actually unique about our medium?...We're the only medium that can potentially require multiple participants” in order for the game to function on a basic level.

On the flip side, though, what if this deep gameplay runs contrary to artistic expression that's supposed to get games out of the legitimacy ghetto? What if there are emergent mechanics in a multiplayer game that run totally counter to the designer's intentions and hurt its artistic reasoning?

“Okay,” Rohrer concluded with. “That's...that's the talk." To say the time passed quickly would be an understatement.

With only time for two audience questions, a few audience members audibly groaned at the first attendee's request for a link to Ebert's articles about games as art. Thankfully, Rohrer steered the dead-end question into a quick acknowledgement that Ebert has a “pretty strong point” about games potentially not being art because of the necessity of authorial control. “Everyone dismisses Ebert as an old crusty Luddite,” Rohrer says, but we need to actually address his complaints.

Someone brought up Civilization as a solution to the Ebert challenge and Rohrer agreed in theory (also pointing out its essential multiplayer-esque structure based around competing with AIs), but sheepishly admitted he'd never actually played it.


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Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:08
Diverse
You're awesome for doing all this coverage over at GDC, Anthony Burch. <3
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:25
Niero
He is awesome! I love that guy!
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:30
RonBurgandy2010
I feel that the legitimacy of games as art does lie in single-player. A good single-player story gets a reaction from the player or makes the player think. It can be a philosophical realization or something that sticks with you. A good single-player game, and a good game in general, sticks with the player after they put the controller down. Multi-player seems to bring out the worst in people. I'm a decent enough guy, but when I get online, especially with Dtoiders, I'm a loudmouth idiot who doesn't know how to shut the fuck up and just take the bullet to the head quietly.
bart999's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:48
bart999
But I like blowing shit up with NPCs standing around half-naked. How does this play into ghey indie-ness?
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:51
RonBurgandy2010
I understand where he's coming from with one aspect of his argument though, although I feel it's a flawed view. He talks about the infinite playability of board games and the fact that this infinite playability is due to the communal nature of the game, that a single-player version of a board game would be shallow and pale in comparison in terms of fun. He says that games would need to adopt the communal nature to become closer to the "perfection" of board games.

Board games are fun not because of the fact that it's played with multiple people, it's the people you play with. When played with friends, a board game is very fun. For a while.

Nothing is infinitely enjoyable, not universally at least. We as humans seek the next greatest thing in terms of enjoyment and thus grow tired of the familiar in most cases. This is why most people can't see the same movie, read the same book, or play the same game until the ends of the earth. Multi-player can extend the enjoyment of a game, and multi-player with friends can even further extend that enjoyment, but everything gets old.

True art lies within a work's ability to bring out a certain feeling, realization, or revelation in a person, even if it can only do it once.
theredpepperofdoom's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:56
theredpepperofdoom
The GDC coverage is awesome.
Ballistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:58
Ballistic
I think he does have a good point about multiplayer being a possible solution to giving games more legitimacy, but why does he even ask if we're ignoring it, OF COURSE WE'RE NOT! So many games these days take advantage of the internet to create a unique muliplayer experience. But I don't think we should only look at multiplayer games as our future, because single player games have such a deep impact even if they are mostly just interactive movies. Heck, just being interactive movies is something more interesting and involving than simply watching a movie.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:59
RAB
Yeah, I think I'm done. I had originally planned on keeping it going untill this weeks podtoid, but you had to go and leave the fucking planet, so that didn't work out.
It's been wonderful.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 20:30
Josh Tolentino
Rohrer has a good point in that we might be missing out on the capacity to generate meaning from multiplayer, but I have a kind of cynical fear that some designers will take this as a reason to shoehorn co-op into games that don't need it :P

Anyway, I think it's not necessarily all about multiplayer as much as giving the illusion that you're not playing against a system as much as a living entity. If nothing that you've done feels artificially contrived, then the game has succeeded. I think there's equal space in the world for both sorts of games along the whole spectrum.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 21:06
Chronic Logic
PHOTOSHOP IS AN ART GAME.
stevesan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 21:37
stevesan
hmm interesting. jason is offering a potential path to solution (explore multiplayer).
grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 22:59
grafkhun
I don't think multiplayer is an essential part to the gaming medium, you don't need to watch a movie with others, you can lsiten to music by yourself, and you most certainly do not read a book with someone else. Sure it has unrealized potential, but I think gaming's true artistic merit will be found in a singleplayer game.
NihonTiger90's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 23:00
NihonTiger90
Best. GDC. Ever.
adwhammy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 23:49
adwhammy
Awesome coverage! but yeah have to disagree with most of what he says. Why do games have to this completely uniquely entertaining thing separate from movies? I think we have all forgiven a game with great gameplay for its crap story and vice versa.

To say that OOT wouldn't stand up to Ebert scrutiny, i'm not so sure. It has an undefinable vibe that captures you, a story and universe to rival the excellent kids adventure movies plus perfect gameplay on top. The only problem would be his closed mind and also not being the target audience.

Also don't we have heaps of awesome multiplayer games of different varieties that many people play a crap ton more than anyone has ever played trivial pursuit?
Reginald's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2009 01:07
Reginald
really good talk. curse you anthony. some of my most rewarding <gameplay> experiences have come from various multiplayer games over the years, I think jason's argument holds a lot of weight. I'd like to see a lot more research into this, and I feel L4D actually does a fair bit of poking in this area
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2009 06:22
Sexualchocolate
After many many years I think I'm personally about done with single player games. I literally rush through single player campaigns, just for the story.

I just don't get the same enjoyment from outsmarting or "outskilling" AI enemies / challenges, designed to be beaten. Single player is totally overshadowed by playing with real people, people who are TRYING to beat you. Knowing they are cursing you at the other end, and perhaps on your headset too.

Mulitplayer games are each like their own sport, winners and losers, competition, skill and experience. when a game does it right, they don't even need a target, level, rank or unlockable to aim for. Take Socom: Confrontation - there's nothing to acheive really, but once you're in a clan hooking up with your clan and playing daily is like a social event, a competitive social event..... a sport. Practicing, qualifying for clan matches, playing matches against other clans, monitoring league tables, comparing each others techniques and tactics.

Only last night my housemate made a good point while watching me get owned on Socom - "it's a shame you can't bet on this." Just like any Sport Socom (or any other competitive online game) could quite easily be something we could be getting odds on and placing bets.

I would generally be happier to buy a £20 online only game over a £40 game with a story that I'm going to rush throuhg as quickly as possible, or perhaps just delve in and out of on those times where my wireless router overheats and needs to go off for half an hour. Although, occassionally you come across a game like MGS4, brilliant story AND brilliant online "sport" mode.

Such games are few and far between though, with games either having an engaging story or campaign but a "tagged on" multiplayer mode or a birlliant MP mode and a tiny campaign (looking at you COD).

So uh, yeah, it's all about Multiplayer.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2009 10:32
Holyetheline
This is great coverage, thanks!
Ghosto's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2009 11:02
Ghosto
I think that you are missing the point when you talk about games as sport. It has been attempted in the past, and I think it didn't really work. However, games as sport is a totally different subject from games as art.

And framing games as art against movies doesn't really lead to any gratifying conclusion either. I a movie, you watch the events unfold and the characters reactions and hope they resonate with you so that you can feel their emotions. Gaming does that beautifully, as in MGS4 or Cave Story for example, but video games are their own beast entirely and should be looked at in a different way.

Games don't just show you a world or a life, they give you control of that life and put you into that world. A true art game would be a psychological and philosophically challenging experience that helps you bring out emotion by looking within instead of looking at other people.

There aren't really any games that accomplish this, and it would be even harder to make a deep psychologically and philosophically moving experience that is also compact and short enough for two people play in one sitting.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2009 14:11
Dexter345
I wish I had something profound to say.
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