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Gartner: Red Ring of Death caused by Microsoft's own lousy graphics chip photo

According to Gartner's research VP and Chief Analyst, Bryan Lewis, the Red Ring of Death that's plagued the Xbox 360 since launch is the result of a crappy graphics chip -- one designed by Microsoft itself. 

At the Design Automation Conference in California, Lewis explained that in order to avoid paying a third party ASIC vendor, Microsoft opted to design the GPU itself and then send it off to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing.  

It's kind of like the time your dad wanted to fix his own leaky toilet, only this is a lot less funny and a lot harder to clean up. Lewis says Microsoft's solution was to let an ASIC vendor redesign the chip after all, whom he believes is ATI. 

As of yet, no one from the big M has bothered to poke their head out and deny anything. Do you think Microsoft tried to sweep this one under the rug, or did Bryan Lewis plant it there? 

[Via CVG]


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reticulate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 05:56
reticulate
I'm not convinced. We all knew well before the 360 was released that ATI was developing the GPU - it was the precursor to the DX10 chips you can buy today, ferchristssake.

Besides which, plenty of anecdotal evidence (along with the cheap and cheerful fixes we've seen since launch) suggests that the problem isn't just that the GPU pumps out heat (they all do) but that the heatsink was simply inadequate for the purpose, and the way it was mounted to the motherboard exacerbated an already unstable situation.

I don't know who it was at Microsoft that decided to put the GPU right under the DVD-ROM (with a tiny heatsink when all common knowledge suggests the GPU is going to run damn hot), but whoever it was had either never looked at a modern video card or was under significant pressure from upstairs to maintain a form factor. I'm going to go with the latter, and I think seeing the relative size (and cooling arrangement) of the PS3 shows this.

While Sony might have missed plenty of boats early on this round, they figured right that your problem isn't going to be the CPU or other subsystems - the thing that's going to cook innards is the bit that does a huge chunk of the work. Thus you get the massive heatsink arrangement and the big-ass fan.

I enjoy playing my 360, but I can't deny the fact they messed this shit up somewhere in the design phase.
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 08:40
Velt
I was going to buy a 360 last year, the rrod issues kept me from buying one, and from what i have read i think that microsoft is loosing a great oportunity just because they dont want to deal with the problem. Just fix it and get on with the console lyfe cycle. Not that hard.

Seriously, its been two years... get your act together. I was going to buy a 360 this year on a trip to the USA, but now... I dont know, probably not because the games might be great but if the thing breaks Im screwed with warranty. The new model with the shrinked gpu should be out there in a while... but two years to redesign a major flaw?
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 10:20
Necros
It's amazing that I remember where I was and how much I laughed at that original Turkey scene.
hjd uk's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 10:22
hjd uk
I thought the RRODSs were because they spent millions on some design-wankers to get a nice small case then put in a miniscule under-spec heatskink so they could fitit all in.
foxhound421's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 10:24
foxhound421
what i want to know is, how long has MS known this was the problem? i know they've been spinning and dodging RROD for years, but damn, this is something they should have caught.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 12:22
michiyoyoshiku
I cry bullshit.
Why?

everybody knows it's an ATI chip that's the CPU
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 12:31
Mxyzptlk
This sounds kinda doubtful, but in any case GIR is awesome.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 14:40
loki d20
Sounds very likely to me. Just as likely as Sony spending more money on 'technology' rather than games. I guess Microsoft has just proved that you don't need a quality product to sell games in today's day and age.
Mr PORC's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 15:37
Mr PORC
It doesn't matter: I would already have a 360 if it wasn't for all these hardware fuck-ups (and I feel I'm not alone in this)! A console that unreliable is just bad news in a non-distant-at-all future!
The Grudge's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/13/2008 18:17
The Grudge
Doom dooom dooom doom dooom dooom doom dooooooooom.

This blows. Everytime I turn the system on I pray and hope it will live another day. Also on the random. Where the hell is Dead Rising 2 already!!!!
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