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[Editor's note: I've never heard of demo whoring before until topgeargorilla just brought this subject up. It's hard to imagine someone not getting the full experience of BioShock with just the small taste of Rapture from the demo. In any case, here is tgg's Gaming's Guilty Pleasure as part of April's Monthly Musings. -- CTZ]

It's an interesting issue. With the PS3, the Wii, and the 360, gamers now have at their fingertips really fantastic games at the push of a button. Instead of having to schlep ourselves out and about to pick up games, we can just keep sitting on our asses and have new gameplay experiences at any time. It's great.

However, I have discovered an interesting, and slightly subversive, situation brewing. I guess you could call it demo whoring. With the 360 and the PS3, all arcade games, and many retail games, have relatively small files that allow gamers to get a taste of the gaming experience. Most people would use this as a time to test out the game, like it-or-hate-it, then make a buying decision. Like cocaine. The first time it's free, after that it's gonna cost you. 

More after the jump. 



Except, it doesn't work on me. Truth be told, I haven't bought a single game on my 360 that I have demoed. As a matter of fact, download wise, the only Arcade game I've ever bought is UNO, which I never demoed. And I have bought plenty of Wii VC titles, but those were in moments of weakness. They don't count.

But taking a look at my downloaded games list on the green blade of Live, I have on average of five to 20 "games". Every single one is a demo (except for free shit like Yaris, Aegis Wing, and Undertow). From BioShock to Texas Hold 'Em, I download a lot of demos.

I have a dirty secret to tell: When I get bored with the games I have, I download three or four demos, let them load up while watching South Park, and when finished, spend an hour and a half playing these games. Even if they are crap, even if I never had any interest in them, even if I never intend to buy them, even games like Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (shit on the 360 D-pad), I'll sit down and play. Since I got the 360 in December, I've had a ton of demos to play. I may have invested more time playing demos spread out than in some of the games I payed for. For instance, Half-Life 2.

I'm an 'effing demo whore. Why in the world would I want to spend hard earned cash on a game I'll only play a couple times when I could just have a taste and be satisfied? Ikaruga is a bitch, and I'll never beat the first level so the demo is as much fun as I'll ever get out of it. The BioShock demo, showcasing a game that scares a pussy like me, lets me experience BioShock and not have to buy it. I just played the Iron Man demo. I got fun out of it and now I don't ever have to buy it. Ever. Maybe it's A.D.D or something, but I don't have to ever care about not playing Iron Man. Because I already did. The same can be said with a ton of other games. Besides, a lot of games on Live are only worth a demo, and shit like Tron is actually fun when free and in short bursts. It's like my 360 is a giant Wario Ware console, with Mega Minigames instead.



There's a candy company in America called See's Candies. They specialize in chocolate truffles and stuff. When you go there, you can spend a lot of money on these things, but they have a policy of giving away free chocolates when you go there. You don't even have to buy anything. Live and the PSN give me the "free chocolates" of gaming. Sure, it's all "mocha" and "caramel", and I'm missing out on "strawberry bon-bon" and "coconut", but what's free is free. It's all gaming.

Who's gone to Costco, walked around eating samples, then just left? I have. That chicken nugget was good, but I'm full now; I don't want to buy a whole bag of delicious nuggets.

So excuse me, big-huge-gaming-corporations. I could care less that my beloved Mr. Driller is online. I already got to play it, thanks for the fun. You're gonna have to do something extra special to hook me into paying you for games. Why pay for fun when the same level of enjoyment can be gotten for free?







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Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 00:42
Aaron Mxy Yost
A man after my own heart. I'd do this all the time on PC, and even subscribed to the official Dreamcast magazine just for the demo disks (which I still have packed up with my DC). I know whenever I get a 360 I'll be doing the same thing.
topgeargorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 00:45
topgeargorilla
I also remember playing the OPM demo disks more than many purchased games too.
ZanyIce's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 00:51
ZanyIce
I'm like you. I downloaded the Amped 3, just Cause, Skate and Dead Rising demos and I got what I needed from them. It helps that I'm really, really poor too. I can only afford to shell out for the amazing games. Everything else I'll either rent or download the demo for free.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 00:51
Tubatic
I just got my 360 today (zomgbirthdaypresentMyGamerTagIsTubatic) and I'm already doing this. Iron Man was fun, and Just Cause was about what I'd heard and expected. Now to wiat for NCAA 2k Basketball, katamari and skate. to DL.

But really, mentioning the demo disc, I totally had a subscription to Playstation Underground, just for those demos. And how I enjoyed that Jumpin Flash demo back on PS1 . . .
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 01:06
Aurain
Let it be said that if you do not like demos. You are not a gamer and will be punished severely. More demos please.
Sarin's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 01:07
Sarin
Demo Whore?


I used to be like that but I hardly ever get demos anymore, I spend too much time on gaming sites so I feel I know if I will like game more from reading about it than from a demo.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 01:54
DaedHead8
I remember when steam came about and started offering demos. It was heaven.
ISOTEN's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 02:01
ISOTEN
haha, I played the dead rising demo probably 7 times now.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 02:09
Dynamic Sheep
I love demos!! This is a very Seinfeld-esque (Seinfeld-ian??) observation. I think we all probably have over 10 demos at any given time on all of our systems. Did anyone else play the hell out of the "Christmas Nights" demo disc for the Saturn??
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 02:26
TrailerParkJesus
This is the reason why I only have 900MB of memory left on my hard drive. I remember out of all the demos, I played the hell out of Burnout Revenge. It was the same level over and over, but free is free and it kept me occupied for months.

I still have the demos for Lost Planet, Skate, DMC4, Dead Rising, NBA Street Homecourt... fuck I need to buy some games.

Good topic.
topgeargorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 02:32
topgeargorilla
@Reaprar
lol about Shadowrun. I need to download that.

@ISOTEN
For some reason, my 360 refuses to download Dead Rising. Weird.
WDot's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 05:38
WDot
I've done this a lot. On PC, the demo is also good because if they rushed the game out the door too early and the demo isn't even stable on my computer, I don't buy it (doesn't happen often, but it does happen).
kadosho's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 05:42
kadosho
Recently I canceled my Xbox Live account, and the wound continues. Its weird, kinda like being stabbed. "Oh we're sorry, we can't allow you to have this". Um, hi its my system, why do I need to pay extra for something free?

Ever since I've owned my original Xbox, I subscribed to Live. So used to having my hand held, and now let go. I am questioning on whether to rejoin again or not. (although I subscribed to the $7.99) Honestly I wanted to test the waters of being a Silver monkey. (*and it sucks)

Advertising while reading a message? "hey be a gold member to send or reply to a message!" Right.. download this demo by being a gold member! Um are you kidding?

Seeing the opposite side of things, I'm really questioning more. If these were open options, like PSN. This would make alot more newer owners happy.

Going to see what happens. So who knows.
OrangeGoblin's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 07:17
OrangeGoblin
I'm a complete demo whore. The best demos are ones you can play multiplayer - hours of (free) fun.
c45h's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 09:18
c45h
I'll accept demo's for shit games, but if you really think you got the same enjoyment out of your demo of Bioshock as the people who played the game, you're wrong. I'll give you 95% of XLA is ass, but don't say standing in a sprinkler is the same as going swimming.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 09:44
Y0j1mb0
Good read. Good Post.
Cyberxion's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 10:58
Cyberxion
Is it wrong of me to admit that once I buy a 360 next month (It's my B-Day present to myself...), I'm probably not actually going to purchase a game at retail for like the first few months because of the whole demo thing?
mikeyed's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 14:22
mikeyed
I remember playing lots and lots of those PS1 demos they had everywhere years ago. I still have my demos for some Squaresoft games.

i don't know if this is related, but I find myself getting lots and lots of play time of newer games by merely just hanging around friends with new systems for a lengthy amount of time. I doubt own any of the current gen systems, but i sure could hold my own in halo 3, Bioshock, or whathaveyou.
STB's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 14:25
STB
Congrats for being promoted on the front page!

Thank god for demos - not only can you kill some time with them (even to the extent you mentioned, so you don't have to actually buy a game) but mostly you sort out the shitty games. The demo for Kane & Lynch for example saved me a good amount of money - despite getting a few good reviews that game just isn't worth a purchase.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 14:26
MechaMonkey
I used to play the OXM demos all the time when I was subscribed to them. If it's good though, I'm never quite satisfied with just that little taste.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 14:30
Justice
I have about 30-40 discs from Offical Playstation Magazine full of demos. One of them even had Britnet's Dance Beat on it.

I NEED HELP!
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 14:36
pedrovay2003
I'm the same way. I still have like 20 demos on my PS3, and that'll prevent me from buying most of the games.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 14:39
Volomon
I've actually never heard of this form of "DemoWhoring" there use to be a time when PC would release demos. They use to be multiplayer demos with maybe one or two maps and not all the equipment. Then they could just easily pull the servers that those were running on and force you to get the real deal.

Then again since I'm from the PC era. There also use to be alot of free games and I'm not talk warez. Hell back when Prodigy use to be a big deal they had networks devoted to user created minigames...and no I'm not as old as I sound. I think I was 8 or something then.

Anyway this "DemoWhoring" is an old fad born new again I suppose. I remember those days of downloading wandering files on the internets in search for games I don't even remember the cmds for it anymore. Quite often they were demos. I hate to say it but I think it's a gamer maturity thing eventually when you have the money and the time you want the full quality and version.
Vitamin Awesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 14:44
Vitamin Awesome
It certainly is a guilty pleasure, one that I'm ready and willing to admit. I loves me some demos, and while I do buy a lot of games, I admit tat I do grab demos and keep playing them without buying that game. I have the DMC4 demo that I've played through about a dozen times already. I got my 360 in November, so I didn't get many games that came out before then, I still the Demo for Prey, Dead Rising, and I was suckered into getting the space giraffe demo (how can the author bitch about frogger being more popular than his "original" Tempest clone?). All in all, good read. good post. Very worthy of front page.
liqideos's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 14:46
liqideos
I remember one of my big selling points with the 360 back in November of 05 was that you could literally own the system, and never pop a disc in, and still get a lot of fulfillment out of it that way.

Yeah, I also opted for Perfect Dark Zero over Call of Duty 2 at launch, and Kameo...I remember buying Kameo.

My decision making has improved since those days.
CHRZASZCZ's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 15:16
CHRZASZCZ
Now that is some lazy ass shit there my friends. Demos instead of full time experience? What about the story, interesting characters, ALL the options available in given game. Sure i download demos too. Play them for a bit and if i find them interesting and fun i go on to ... reading about the game in the internets. Than based on the overall playing experience and info gathered i make a decision whether to buy the game or not.
Settling just for demos is kind of lame for me. You miss out on lots of thing this way. To use a real life example let's assume that Mr. topgeargorilla ha a girlfriend but instead of sexing her, all he gets is a hand job. With the lights out. Rubber gloves on.
Holiday's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 15:16
Holiday
Forget demos, Do you know how many free games you can play by owning HL2 for PC? Players mods FTW!
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 15:26
TheStripe
"The BioShock demo...lets me experience BioShock and not have to buy it."

No, it doesn't.

I guess I care way too much about story to be a demo whore. Granted, there are some games that I play the demos over and over every once in a while instead of buying them (Ikaruga, anyone?), but I like the experience of moving through a storyline, even if it's shit.
topgeargorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 15:37
topgeargorilla
Cool! Front page!

@ Everybody about Bioshock.

Yeah, I know I'm missing out on a great game. The literal problem is I get stuck on a spooky part, and never play a game again. That's what would happen for me in Bioshock; same with Resident Evil 4, a game I appreciate, but get too spooked to play.


I don't know about other people, but I feel really out of the loop when I can't afford to purchase every game I want. It's also really disappointing when I buy a game, like it, but lose interest after an hour, even for a really good game. Demos solve that problem: I've had the experience, but never need to spend cash.

But Bioshock is really good. I REALLY need to grow a pair....
Pyramid Head's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 15:47
Pyramid Head
Don't worry about BioShock, I've no idea why people are ape-shit over it.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 16:04
Holyetheline
So... I'm opposite and buy everything. I'm terrible about money... I make so much of it and spend so much of it...
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 16:06
MaxVest
I have absolutely no guilt over demo-whoring, just pleasure. Either I play a demo for the 4 minutes it takes me to determine I don't like it (Conan, Simpsons, Condemned 2), or I play the demo in lieu of buying the game.

Burnout Paradise is a good example of a game where they made the demo too good. It's better than a lot of full retail games.
slobu's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 16:08
slobu
The Evil Caffeine in me says the corporate types love your premise: it's bad to enjoys too many demos. Kinda like video game rentals you might make an educated choice before buying "50 Bytes: Revenge of Toner Lo"
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 16:14
Hamza CTZ Aziz
Want me to hold you while you play BioShock TGG?
topgeargorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 16:19
topgeargorilla
Will you make me hot chocolate? With 'mallows?
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 16:26
Volomon
@Holiday Damn right, man I couldn't live without Zombie Master and Dystopia. Plain amazing games for the price of free. Way better than anything Valve could up with.
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 16:29
fetusmilk
i know people who only get demos and i never see them pick up full games. and they wonder why they dont have any room on the HDD's. like why keep the yaris[example] demo on your hdd if you dont play it? as for me with most demos i play it once and its gone. also that DA picture is not helping with my habits.
ZMTToxics's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 16:54
ZMTToxics
I upgraded my 40 gig ps3 harddrive to a 120 gig because the demos were taking too much space. :D
Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 18:36
Orionsaint
Yeah i'd say i'm a demo whore. When I first got the 360 in Nov of 06. I stayed up all night until I downloaded and played every demo and first thing I do when i sign on live is check for new demos. I love me some demos.
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 20:22
Wexx
Weirdo.
FreePablo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 20:53
FreePablo
I wish I could demo whore. It takes me about 2 hours to download 500MB.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 20:57
Samit Sarkar
Great write-up, topgeargorilla, and congrats on the promotion! I still play the PSN demo of NHL 08, and I downloaded it way back last fall (before the game came out). One period of Senators-Ducks hockey is all I need...
PrinceofCannedPeaches's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 21:02
PrinceofCannedPeaches
Oh, I know about this. At the end of my old computers lifecycle, when I couldn't really play anything new on it, or the playing of it would be more painful than going without playing anything, I'd load up demo after demo after demo. It's rarer on PC for some reason, but I still got to sample all I really wanted of Psychonauts and [/i]Republic Commando[/i]
liam2015's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 21:52
liam2015
I used to play the stranglehold demo like a fiend.
CJSchmidt's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 22:08
CJSchmidt
I remember some games that I enjoyed more as demos than full games - something about the restriction, making you learn every nook and cranny of the one or two levels. I remember playing and modding the Carmageddon demo daily for months, then I bought the game on sale and stopped playing soon thereafter. I also played the hell out of the Lost Planet demo, but ended up not caring for the full game.

It's a thin line the developers must tow.
souljah07's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 22:11
souljah07
I was a bit of a whore for the DMC4 demo for PS3, but for the most part I'm pretty chaste.
Crumpet Lips's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 22:59
Crumpet Lips
Well after playing the Bioshock demo at my friends house (before I had a 360 of my own), I told him it was a terrible Doom 3 clone with magic that flies out of your hands on top.... yeah I know.

So I bought the game when I got a 360 and slapped myself in the cock. After I got the Bioshock Experience I decided it would be stupid to download any demo of any game (excluding XBLA titles) because demos can easily taint the look of the full version of the game (as it did for me with Bioshock).

So I for one refuse to play demo's now. I prefer getting a hands on experience with the full game to judge it, instead of having the demo judge the game for me
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2008 23:01
kawitchate
"Who's gone to Costco, walked around eating samples, then just left? I have."

wow. just wow.

i've actually played demos that made me want to buy the game. Mr. DRILLER Online is the latest example... and i'm seriously considering buying the Iron Man game after playing the demo, once it goes down in price.
The Unforgivable's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 00:14
The Unforgivable
Amen wid dat!
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 00:41
Darren Nakamura
I did this back before I owned a 360. I'd just download demos on my friends' systems and play them all the time. Once I got my own though, I started buying the games. I can say for certain that you did not get to experience Bioshock by just playing through the demo. The demo was great, but by playing only that part, you miss out on almost all of the story, which is probably the main point to playing the game.
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