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Kyle Orland put together a feature over at GameDaily that discusses the importance of game journalists needing to have played every important game in order to be, well, a good game journalist. The thing is, just because we are in the field, it doesn't mean that we all need to have played every single game in order to bring great coverage to the masses. Check it out and let us know what you think on the subject. I'll share some of the thoughts with you here:

Destructoid's Robert Summa:

Destructoid Executive Editor Robert Summa admits he never developed a taste for Final Fantasy during his formative years because "my circle of friends growing up, that's just not the kind of games we played. We played sports games, Mario, and all the other classics." 

Journo views on WoW:

World of Warcraft was a surprisingly common omission from many journalist's playlists, given its popularity among millions of registered players. St. Petersburg Times game reviewer and blogger Josh Korr resisted the game's immense popularity because "for everything I've read about WoW, nobody has satisfactorily explained what's so great about it." Denver Post game columnist Dave Thomas was put off by "the bleary eyes of WoW players as they try to turn their endless hours of grind into some interesting conversation." But some are not so strong -- Gamasutra podcast host Tom Kim finally decided to stop being "that guy who doesn't play World of Warcraft" among his friends because, as he puts it, "there comes a point where, due to critical mass, certain things become nigh unavoidable." 

What do you think? How important is it that your favorite source of gaming know-how be extremely well-versed in gaming's past and/or present? 








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velcroman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:05
velcroman
i don't mind if you don't like every game, but you should atleast have played most genre or atleast knows how it plays.
Hipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:05
Hipple
I feel like I know more about video games than anyone I know, but I haven't ever played FF or WoW. I must have some weak friends...
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:06
Kif
It doesn't matter to me really. I have only played FFVII-X. Everyone grows up with different games, so you can't be expected to like all of them. I grew up on Sonic, which is why I have a hard time playing Mario games. They feel too slo for me.
World Famous's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:07
World Famous
Well, I usually hit every genre, but there are some that I like more than others.

As far as my FF absence, I've been trying to go back and fill in those gaps.
Master Pei's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:08
Master Pei
Well, I consider myself a hardcore gamer and someone whose life revolves around videogames (after all, I work as a tester for a very important game company), but even so I haven't played every game there is out there. For instance, my greatest sin is not to have played a single Megaman game. Yep, I know. But with so many games being constantly released, it's impossible for one person to play them all. It's like in literature or films: not even the best critics have read all the books or watched all the films. It's humanly impossible. So, no, you don't have to play every single important game to be a good game journalist.
bhive01's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:11
bhive01
Yeah, I don't expect a person to have played every type of game and like it. I don't care much for MMO's or RPGs. Thing is, if you're going to be reviewing a game and there is a past history of the game that you didn't like. Make sure you let us know that there is some prejudice there. Give us the facts, and let us make up our own minds, while injecting some of that famous Summa wit and humor.
bluexy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:11
bluexy
Ideally, I don't want each blogger to love every game they play. That gets boring, also cocks. Joystiq and Kotaku have the hard job of trying to sound like they love everybody which makes them worse in the long run.

Destructoid's editors have their likes and dislikes and put it into what they publish.. That creates discussion and argument, among other things, which luckily I totally get off on. Uh, I mean I enjoy that.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:13
Kif
@Master Pei

This is probably the number 1 reason I don't play older more established games. There are too many games coming out that I want to play, it tends to make me forget about older ones that I have been suggested to play as well.
scrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:17
scrap
Reviewing a game like WoW must be a freakin' hard task to accomplish. You can't just play for a few days/week and think you know the game. Why any journalist would want to tackle an MMO is beyond me.
Aetsen's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:20
Aetsen
It's important to have variety in the games you've played, and to not be a one genre slut. But If you are going to do a review of a game, you better have fucking played other ones like it.
Toneman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:21
Toneman
Game journalists are people too. They can love and hate certain genres the same as anybody else can.
RobTurboGA's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:21
RobTurboGA
Video game journalism is the only form of media where it's acceptable to have holes in your background knowledge and publicly stated biases.

Think about that for a second.

Yeah, we're in need of a standards increase, to say the lest.
xeLa's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:25
xeLa
Personally, I think it is important for gaming journalists to know the games in which they are writing. At the very least, they should be versed well enough into the genre/area in order to give us readers insight. It definitely helps if the journalist can include say comparisons between games in order for the readers to relate, but it isn't exactly a make or break thing.

As for the journalists themselves being developed into an all-around know it all for games. I don't think its necessary at all. Just as long as the team of journalists that are working together have people that fill in the "deficiencies" of others onboard the team.
dorock's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:26
dorock
Overall, I don't think it really matters how well versed a journalist or blogger is in the past, as long as you have some basic roots and know some of the history that made the industry what it is today.

Its all about the present. I want my news sources to know what the hell is going on. Have opinions on games and have clear reason for loving or hating games, without being fanboys or girls.

scrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:26
scrap
I remember a VERY OVERHYPED recent review of a little game called Neverwinter Nights 2 that got a much frowned-upon review by a certain 1up journalist. Said journalist was an expert on those games and, according to NWN fans, didn't know what the F he was talking about. hrmmm...

In my opinion, he was just being honest.
Faith's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:28
Faith
We are gamers and we have our likes and dislikes. I like Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda, and Resident Evil. Love RPGs, RTSs, and platformers, and puzzle games. I will play a FPS once in a while, but I don't like Halo, Half Life and haven't play Gears yet.

Plus if you played every game out there, you would never have time to write about them or enjoy them.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:29
Snaileb
As long as you bring me up to date conversational information on that new Hello Kitty Adventure Island game, its aaaall goood baby. (all your Summa belong to us)
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:33
Darren Nakamura
I think it's necessary, and it's why I only really pay attention to awards if they are voted on by game journalists rather than the general public. And it's how I hear about the "Best Games Nobody Played" stuff, which is why I own Beyond Good & Evil and Psychonauts and such.
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:35
Joseph Leray
I'm pretty confident that my lack of FPS knowledge is more than made up for by the other writers, as is Summa's apparently lack of FF knowledge. There are enough of us that whatever the topic, it will be covered by someone who knows what's up.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:50
BlindsideDork
Well perhaps it is ok that everyone isn't well versed in every game but how about multiple people well versed in certain subjects...intead of just ONE person well versed in 360 and bashing of Nintendo, and a pinch of distaste for Sony on the side.
scrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:52
scrap
I like the Dtoid multiple review system thingie. Works for me! It's kinda nice to see a genre newb discover and hate/love a new game.

KTallguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 12:58
KTallguy
Yes, I think it's important to have two or three people review one game. The best balance is to have one wild fan review it, and one person new to the series/not a huge fan of the series review it, and put them on the same page.
scrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 13:03
scrap
zomg turn based combat is teh lamzerz!!!11

-2/10! lol
World Famous's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 13:04
World Famous
That's why we do the reviews the way that we do. I like to have multiple views so that if there's a writer whose play style you agree with more, you'll know to trust his or her review.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 13:05
BluDesign
What I think is a good qualifier for a reviewer or journalist in a field is for them to be really good at what they know. It's impossible to say "game journalist" and expect the moon from them, but to have people who specialize in FPS, RPG/MMO shit, platformers, sports, etc That's something I can deal with. So, I'm not saying you're a sports game writer, your opinion on Mario 64 is shit, but basically, I'm going to lean more on the one with more cred to his name in a given genre. A good journalist is also going to be able to put personal preferences aside from the topic at hand, so if there's a crappy platformer featuring Bubsy coming next year, they'll honestly give it a go rather than writing it off because they hated bubsy a decade ago too. I think something some reviewers forget, is that not everyone shares their personal opinions on who's the coolest mascot from their childhood, and they sometimes let that bias their reviews.

BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 13:07
BluDesign
Also, D'toid writers, when you need someone who's mental gaming mindset is in line with Baito Hell 2000 on the PSP, you give me a call...
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 13:09
BahamutZero
yah you heard it here first. Bubsy HD for the victoly
scrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 13:14
scrap
multi-editor reviews > "metareviews"

Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 14:35
Jordan Devore
As long as the person acknowledges classic games for what they brought to the genre, then I have no problem with it. But like most of you said, when you only play one genre of games, chances are you aren't going to be that great of a gaming journo.

I don't blame Summa for not wanting to play Final Fantasy, because let's face it, the series is really hit or miss. If you didn't like the first one, you probably aren't going to love the sequels.
blu3steel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 14:36
blu3steel
I don't care if you've never played a game in your life. Just tell me the news and I'll play the games myself. Having your reviews is just the icing on the cake - welcome, but not necessary.
Gregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 14:40
Gregor
I have a confession, I've never played a Metal Gear Solid game.

Ever.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 14:45
Snaileb
Damn.. better go pick one up before your penis shrinks. But if you experince the greatness so late in the game, your brain might implode. o.O like the matrix.
emoyaoigamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 14:57
emoyaoigamer
OMG YOUR SO HOT !!
iRaf 's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 15:07
iRaf
I personally like FPS's and action games. I dont care much for MMO's and RPG's. they bore me. everyone likes different game genre's and personally sitting there for 4 hours walking to one place to another is boring.
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 16:14
galagabug
gaming journalists should not be responsible for playing every benchmark title.

as far as i'm concerned, i want to see the title reviewed by multiple editors.
typically gaming sites tend to have on staff their fps/action fans, sports fans, driving fans, rpg fans etc...

depending on the title, i like the majority of the review to be done by the writer who enjoys/knows the genre. then i like a couple additional takes on the game from people who may not ordinarily consider playin that type of game. also like it when games are revisted a few weeks after release with additional information regarding online activity.

i have never made it more than 15 mins into anything turn based.
bleep's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 16:51
bleep
Rob: Its basically like this....first off if every writer here WAS into WoW, no articles would get written. I think of the various specialties that all the writers have as being part of the Large DTOID ROBOT. Not unlike Voltron or Captain Planet, the dtoid Writers' powers combined create what we know as THE BADASSNESS THAT IS DTOID!!"also cocks"
Arro's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 17:40
Arro
Rob,

That picture wouldn't be cool if you didn't have those gloves on.

Just thought I'd let you know.

(Ignore me plz)
Ndizi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2007 18:41
Ndizi
A journalist needs to be well versed in what makes a good game. Playing a lot of games along with the famous few can achieve that but it isn't a requirements. Frankly I would think any person judging another based on how many games you've played are just shallow and stupid.

We can all sit around and pretend the scoring system isn't subjective. I don't care about that. What I want to know is how an average gaming session of the game would feel like. Sure I tend to enjoy occasional poetry from journalists who loves their own voice and enjoy reading about how whatever game is so a rip-off of another but that is more about validating my own opinion or in some cases knowing which opinion to adapt to game.

I got a feeling the gaming journalism is a concept that could endure further evolution but on the other hand taking a sneak peek on how the music and movies journalism work would hint that this is as deep as it gets; the way stuff work is convenient enough. Most people, I.E. people who actually buy gaming magazines and such probably don't share my elitist opinions and that is what matters for the people with the cash. Well I have my Destructoid here to read and I think it is good enough.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2007 00:43
Aaron Mxy Yost
Anytime I'm looking for review scores on a particular game, I always hit several sources to get varied opinions. And yeah, I've never been able to finish a single Final Fantasy game. I always get bored about 1/4 of the way through. I usually can't stand sports or sim games either, with a few exceptions. And stealth games make me insane.
Stetsonblade's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2007 01:09
Stetsonblade
Jack Shepherd playing video games? I thought he was lost or something.
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