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Well, buying used is pointless as it renting, which is why on GameFly you can't rent it. I was going to rent the game, but suddenly today it said NOT RENTABLE on my Game Q on GameFly.
That's some shady shit there, Capcom. What if I wanted to start over from scratch? WTF?
That's some shady shit there, Capcom. What if I wanted to start over from scratch? WTF?
While the save data thing is dumb, does it really affect this type of game? I don't think so. The bigger issue I have is the $40 price tag for a game that is essentially an extra mode from a $60 game.
Correction: "fallout from what is starting to become a rather stupid fucking decision on the part of Capcom"
Who seriously thought this would prevent sales and trade ins?
It's gamestop/ebgames
They want that money.
Only something entirely unplayable like DCU makes sense to not accept to sell as used.
It's gamestop/ebgames
They want that money.
Only something entirely unplayable like DCU makes sense to not accept to sell as used.
Does the saved file bs affect the Resident Evil Revelations Demo? That's the only reason why I'd play this game.
The Revelations demo is weak, hardly a representation of what the game will be like. It's also extremely short. If that's the reason you're eyeing Mercenaries, don't bother.
What I want to know, what no one is addressing it seems, is how many save files are there and can you no longer play the campaign once you've beaten it? If you can still play through it on some kind of Campaign Plus setting I at least think that'll lay to rest the notion that these games become unplayable once you've used up all the saves.
@TheNephilym
Are those original Xboxes in that window? Oh, the memories.
@TheNephilym
Are those original Xboxes in that window? Oh, the memories.
So what is Gamestop/EB going to do about selling it used? Keep track of how many memory slots have been used per cartridge, and warn people up front? LOL. I don't get why they're even bothering to accept them as trade-ins.
@Xzyliac
And gamecubes too! lol
Also, I'd like to know about the number of saves you get, too. I don't think having a NG+ option is going to do you much good if you can't erase the file. Say you buy it and it's in the middle of the campaign. If you can't erase it or start over on a new file, what the hell do you do? If you only get like 3 files and 3 people have already owned the game, what the hell do you do? It's craziness.
And gamecubes too! lol
Also, I'd like to know about the number of saves you get, too. I don't think having a NG+ option is going to do you much good if you can't erase the file. Say you buy it and it's in the middle of the campaign. If you can't erase it or start over on a new file, what the hell do you do? If you only get like 3 files and 3 people have already owned the game, what the hell do you do? It's craziness.
They don't restrict the sale and buy back of other games that do this, so why would they? And, yes, there are other games that do this out there.
I don't have my 3DS or my DS games with me to go through the games I have but I know over time I've bought at least 2 used DS games from Gamestop that didn't allow you to delete the previous persons data. They aren't the most amazing games or anything, but it does happen.
Also, I might be reading the article wrong but why would EB Games be working independently from Gamestop on this? They're the same company still correct? "Destructoid decided to see if GameStop had similar plans in North America.." even sounds like these rumors are coming from a completely different country that isn't being noted.
I don't have my 3DS or my DS games with me to go through the games I have but I know over time I've bought at least 2 used DS games from Gamestop that didn't allow you to delete the previous persons data. They aren't the most amazing games or anything, but it does happen.
Also, I might be reading the article wrong but why would EB Games be working independently from Gamestop on this? They're the same company still correct? "Destructoid decided to see if GameStop had similar plans in North America.." even sounds like these rumors are coming from a completely different country that isn't being noted.
Of course gamestop is going to take these trades.. they set their prices so if there isnt a demand for used copies, they will quickly drop the value to near nothing. Either way they will make money.
And on the other side of that are the suckers who will see that game on the shelf and buy it used, only to find out they can't play a fresh game on it.
Publishers and retailers selling these type of games should at least put a sticker on the box warning people of this.. the average customer won't have a clue until it's too late.
And on the other side of that are the suckers who will see that game on the shelf and buy it used, only to find out they can't play a fresh game on it.
Publishers and retailers selling these type of games should at least put a sticker on the box warning people of this.. the average customer won't have a clue until it's too late.
Damn,refusing to stock something they can't sell used? Wasn't there a time when videogame stores made money,before used sales were a thing? I can see both sides of the equation, but this shit is turning into a friggin war
@TheNephilym & Xzyliac
Well, according to the article just above, the line in red, there's only one save slot.
Haven't read much about this yet. But I can't think of one good reason for the consumer to be unable to erase the save file. I hope it has a "new game" option that doesn't carry over existing progress and upgrades.
Well, according to the article just above, the line in red, there's only one save slot.
Haven't read much about this yet. But I can't think of one good reason for the consumer to be unable to erase the save file. I hope it has a "new game" option that doesn't carry over existing progress and upgrades.
@yenner
What, you think I actually read jim's articles? I just comment on the titles. :P
Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. It's just as fucked as I thought it was.
What, you think I actually read jim's articles? I just comment on the titles. :P
Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. It's just as fucked as I thought it was.
how bout instead of sensationalist assumptions, why don't we get an actual review of the final product? the game is out now, correct? i'd rather hear the real story instead of being trolled into writing an angry comment. stop reporting things that aren't really news/made up/wholly inaccurate/half true. also, i'm reasonably sure that ejecting the cart during an auto save will be sufficient for resetting data.
I don't think that of the hordes of people complaining that many of them realize this isn't a full campaign RE game like those of the past. This game is just the mercenaries mode where you compete for a high score. Even if I bought this used it would just save me the time of unlocking the characters and stages. It's like buying Smash Bros and having the characters and stages unlocked already, some people like earning that content while others like not having to waste their time to get the characters they bought the game for.
"some people like earning that content while others like not having to waste their time to get the characters they bought the game for."
Yeah, so this is great for the people in the latter category. Not for the ones in the former. Hence, to some this is still an issue worth thinking about.
Yeah, so this is great for the people in the latter category. Not for the ones in the former. Hence, to some this is still an issue worth thinking about.
Ugh this news doesn't sit right with me. The un erasable file, that is. I could care less about gamestop not stocking used copies. Oh well, I can always switch SD cards or something if I really want to start from scratch that badly.
Also, when's the review for this gonna be made? I wanna see if it's really worth the $40. Well, either way, as long as I have a co-op partner, I'll probably still get it.
I'm rather fascinated that people keep knee-jerking over this.
Where were these people for Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 2, Dead Space 2 and why were they happily taking it up the ass from EA when they're the most hostile toward the used market in general.
I only stopped to get SOTD new because they weren't pulling that kind of shit with the game.
This Mercenaries thing? Mountain out of a molehill.
Where were these people for Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 2, Dead Space 2 and why were they happily taking it up the ass from EA when they're the most hostile toward the used market in general.
I only stopped to get SOTD new because they weren't pulling that kind of shit with the game.
This Mercenaries thing? Mountain out of a molehill.
@Operative20 " Oh well, I can always switch SD cards or something if I really want to start from scratch that badly."
Sorry, but that's the problem at hand. The game saves on the cartridge rather than the 3DS or SD card.
I'm also seeing people on multiple forums reporting that thier gamestop/ebgames stores are not accepting the game for trade ins.
Sorry, but that's the problem at hand. The game saves on the cartridge rather than the 3DS or SD card.
I'm also seeing people on multiple forums reporting that thier gamestop/ebgames stores are not accepting the game for trade ins.
@VashTS
Oh, my bad. Well then...that really, really sucks. I usually like to replay old games from scratch a few years later when I have nothing else to play. :(
Oh, my bad. Well then...that really, really sucks. I usually like to replay old games from scratch a few years later when I have nothing else to play. :(
CSB: When I worked at gamestop, there was a save file issue when I had checked out a number of DS titles. I specifically recall FFXII: Revenant Wings and Dragon Quest Monsters Joker being problematic where after I brought the titles back, there was no way to clear my saved data.
Normally the manager would shrink-wrap checked out games and sell them as new. With these, there was no way to do so, and I was scolded for checking out the games (shockingly, I only stayed a few months there before quitting Office Space style). That said, we sure as hell still sold used copies of these games, so I'd be surprised if gamestop doesn't sell RE Mercs used.
Normally the manager would shrink-wrap checked out games and sell them as new. With these, there was no way to do so, and I was scolded for checking out the games (shockingly, I only stayed a few months there before quitting Office Space style). That said, we sure as hell still sold used copies of these games, so I'd be surprised if gamestop doesn't sell RE Mercs used.
Has anyone noticed Capcom always has issues with save files? More notably Dead Rising 1 & 2 and now this. Just thought I'd point it out.
To answer everyone's "What if I want to play it all over again, how can I do that if I can't erase my save file?" question. You go to MISSION SELECT, then you GO TO THE FIRST MISSION, then you pick START MISSION.
Wow. That was hard. If you're buying it used your not helping anybody but Gamestop or EB Games anyway.
Wow. That was hard. If you're buying it used your not helping anybody but Gamestop or EB Games anyway.
"Wow. That was hard. If you're buying it used your not helping anybody but Gamestop or EB Games anyway."
Ummm and my pocketbook. Not every game is worth buying new...my solution to this is make a great game everyone wants day 1 and used games are a minor annoyance. You may not like COD but do you really think they are up late trying to figure out how to screw gamers over with used game sales? This type of stuff just ends up sinking your sales not increasing them. Why don't they just go all the way and make a game that self destructs if it is used on a 2nd 3DS? It is basically the same thing.
Ummm and my pocketbook. Not every game is worth buying new...my solution to this is make a great game everyone wants day 1 and used games are a minor annoyance. You may not like COD but do you really think they are up late trying to figure out how to screw gamers over with used game sales? This type of stuff just ends up sinking your sales not increasing them. Why don't they just go all the way and make a game that self destructs if it is used on a 2nd 3DS? It is basically the same thing.
Just got my copy and it was shrink wrapped. Hope that doesn't mean some GameStop employee used my save file.
"Secondhand game sales were not a factor in this development decision"
Bullshit. If they want to do things to make sure people will buy it new over used, fine but have the balls to actually say it. I hate all the bullshit PR people spew.
Bullshit. If they want to do things to make sure people will buy it new over used, fine but have the balls to actually say it. I hate all the bullshit PR people spew.
Capcom can't comment on retail figures because its up to retailers to make their own choices in a free market.
Honestly, having these updates now, I can see the signs of Gamestop managers and district managers deciding to take it on themselves to not take the pre-owed copies of this game in lue of the obvious ire they're going to wreak from the costumers. Its not unheard of for this to happen, even when a company isn't bound under one corporate roof.. Gamestop will either tell them to quit it or let them keep up whats good for their market.
Besides, either way, it doesn't sound like many people are wanting to get the game at all now, let alone used, because of this whole mess.. And thats all on Capcom's head.
Honestly, having these updates now, I can see the signs of Gamestop managers and district managers deciding to take it on themselves to not take the pre-owed copies of this game in lue of the obvious ire they're going to wreak from the costumers. Its not unheard of for this to happen, even when a company isn't bound under one corporate roof.. Gamestop will either tell them to quit it or let them keep up whats good for their market.
Besides, either way, it doesn't sound like many people are wanting to get the game at all now, let alone used, because of this whole mess.. And thats all on Capcom's head.
This is a shady, shitty move and is right up there with their DRM on PSN (and XBLA?) games that require you to be connected to play.
Fuck you, Capcom for your dick moves, and for also making vague, incoherent statements in regard to your dick moves. If you're going to try to screw the used game consumer, you may as well own up to it... it's not like there aren't plenty of other publishers making themselves out to be assholes for the same reasons.
Fuck you, Capcom for your dick moves, and for also making vague, incoherent statements in regard to your dick moves. If you're going to try to screw the used game consumer, you may as well own up to it... it's not like there aren't plenty of other publishers making themselves out to be assholes for the same reasons.
@jawshoeuh: agreed... fuck capcom for doing this and trying to be coy about it. They've been around for a LONG time in the "gaming scheme" of things, they should know that this was going to cause us to get pissed. Not letting people do as they wish with a copy of a game THEY BOUGHT is fucking shady, if this is the direction Capcom is moving in, count me out.....
Resident evil mercenaries is nothing but a rental anyways IMHO.... and I can't even do that since Gamefly denied my Game Q and set it as "Not Rentable" or some shit.
Resident evil mercenaries is nothing but a rental anyways IMHO.... and I can't even do that since Gamefly denied my Game Q and set it as "Not Rentable" or some shit.
This is a brilliant move by Capcom. I hope to see this develop more in the future to fully savor the shitstorm that will come out of it.
This is such a seriously stupid idea on Capcom's part. It pretty much makes true replayability just about non-existent. I'm pretty sure the majority of gamers who go back to an old game later on (whether months or years later), generally like to start from scratch. Not to mention people who actually trade games with other people, like me and my twin brother. I mean, you just don't make the 'erase game' option unavailable.
It's insulting to consumers and also a breach of the consumer/distributor relationship, as it basically is making the obvious statement, "We want to take control away from consumers in every conceivable way possible."
Fuck Capcom. I'm not buying this game, and if they continue this trend I'll use my marketing power to not buy anything else from them. There are plenty of other, much better games coming out anyhow.
It's insulting to consumers and also a breach of the consumer/distributor relationship, as it basically is making the obvious statement, "We want to take control away from consumers in every conceivable way possible."
Fuck Capcom. I'm not buying this game, and if they continue this trend I'll use my marketing power to not buy anything else from them. There are plenty of other, much better games coming out anyhow.
@The Silent Protagonist
For me its not so much being shafted out of used game sales as it is I can never restart the game or have a new save file. That seems severely limiting on the game itself, even if it is a game that focuses on "beat your last high score".
The concept of "You can only have ONE new game on a game you purchased" can only hurt the gamer, and is incredibly shady.
For me its not so much being shafted out of used game sales as it is I can never restart the game or have a new save file. That seems severely limiting on the game itself, even if it is a game that focuses on "beat your last high score".
The concept of "You can only have ONE new game on a game you purchased" can only hurt the gamer, and is incredibly shady.
I don't think they're necessarily doing this to combat used game sales, the Layton Series and a handful of other games did this too, so long as this game has multiple save files I don't see the big deal.
@ Scissors - Uh, really? You sure about that? I have Professor Layton and the Curious Village that I bought used and I was able to reset the data. Maybe the later ones in the series have that, but I certainly haven't seen evidence of that sort of thing.
The only game I know so far that has made it confusing to reset user data was Nintendogs. But you could still do it.
The only game I know so far that has made it confusing to reset user data was Nintendogs. But you could still do it.
@Scissors
But what when, like the article says, there is only one save slot that can't be deleted or overwritten?
Really, what is a good reason for not allowing the user to control or reset their save data in a game? I personally reset games, or have multiple save files all the time, I'm sure I'm not the only one.
But what when, like the article says, there is only one save slot that can't be deleted or overwritten?
Really, what is a good reason for not allowing the user to control or reset their save data in a game? I personally reset games, or have multiple save files all the time, I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I'm confused, you say you asked Gamestop if they would accept the trade and they said yes, but the link below says otherwise. Could you shed some light on this?
http://videogamewriters.com/gamestop-refuses-to-accept-trade-ins-for-resident-evil-the-mercenaries-3d-14903
http://videogamewriters.com/gamestop-refuses-to-accept-trade-ins-for-resident-evil-the-mercenaries-3d-14903
I dont buy games that dont let me start over. And I especially wont buy a game that puts data somewhere on my DS and wont let me remove it.
Are there even unlockables? It could all amount to a resi digimon type thing where passersby can see your top score and challenge you or some shit. I doing even own a 3ds, I just think stories like this are more or less bitching for the sake of bitching. Business as usual. Review the fucking game already and stop playing the telephone game for a good headline.
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