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Ooooooooh, was wondering when this would come up.
I fully support the whoole DLC for first time purchase thing, think it's a brilliant way to secure proper purchases over pre-owned.
It's the retailers that need to change how they work to get around this, games with free DLC for new purchases need to be worth less trade in and cost less preowned, also Gamestop may need to put stickers on the boxes or something.
Tough for them, but 20% mark up on pre-owned games, they can fucking suck it up, man up Lamestop.
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I fully support the whoole DLC for first time purchase thing, think it's a brilliant way to secure proper purchases over pre-owned.
It's the retailers that need to change how they work to get around this, games with free DLC for new purchases need to be worth less trade in and cost less preowned, also Gamestop may need to put stickers on the boxes or something.
Tough for them, but 20% mark up on pre-owned games, they can fucking suck it up, man up Lamestop.
Rules and Guidlines required.
This can only be a good thing, paying $5 less for a used game has always been a dumb idea. Maybe with this new DLC tactic they'll lower it to $15 off to cover the cost of the lacking content.
Why the hell to video game companies complain about used games?
You don't see car companies complaining about used cars.
You don't see car companies complaining about used cars.
And yet when Anthony bought The Saboteur brand new, he didn't get his DLC because someone had already opened the box and used the code, and nothing happens...at least, I don't think anything happened. How did that turn out anyway?
Ok? Haven't he heard that the DLC was for the "New" copies only? This guy must not have Internet, has a life *everyone here at Destructoid has no life XD*, or just plain retarded.
This guy had 7 day to return the used game for a refund, but failed to do so.If he had done that he would have used the refunded money plus another $5 plus tax to get a brand new copy with a guaranteed free dlc code for Dragon Age. This guy is just trying to fool the Jury to get some free money.
Fuck EBGames, I had a bunch of games laying around and was interested in seeing what I could get for a trade in value and this is what the offered me.
Fable 2 - 2 dollars
Borderlands - 20 dollars
Fallout 3 - 7 dollars
Lost Odyssey - 7 dollars
I was like yeah I think I'll keep them lol
Fable 2 - 2 dollars
Borderlands - 20 dollars
Fallout 3 - 7 dollars
Lost Odyssey - 7 dollars
I was like yeah I think I'll keep them lol
Oh shit, this guy actually has standing ground for his lawsuit because what's printed on the box constitutes as false advertising,
If you're in the business of selling used goods, you should be in the business of explaining what is and isn't included in those used goods. The store should've just said, "Dude, you're gonna have to pay extra for Zaed" or put up a sign that says "Used games do not include DLC extras". Problem solved.
Unless the boxes differ greatly from country to country, I'm "afraid" to say that they explicitly say that the DLC code included is a one-timer. Clearly someone buying a *used* copy has the necessary understanding to figure out that the v-card of the DLC is gone.
I got a used saboteur game (the only one in stock) and the codes inside worked, same with operation flashpoint. it is funny though how much is he asking for his 5 bucks back ha!
Keep in mind people can not read things right, he might not have known he could return it, normally software sales with new games are final. He may have thought that was true here and didn't want to sell it back to Gamestop at a loss. A long shot and not grounds to sue but I could see it happening having worked in retail. All that aside I was wondering when this would come up. If nothing else comes out of this hopefully Gamestop will put a sticker on used games explaining this, or have a better practice in place so employees can educate customers better when they purchase a used game that had bonus DLC that won't be available.
Don't know if the Gamestop employees mentioned the return policy. When I buy a game from there that is all they talk about. I went to buy Left 4 Dead, and I wanted the new copy because it already had the extra campaign (I have a 20GB drive, so I would rather keep things on the disc if all else is equal) and it was only $1 more. All they said was "b.b.but the return policy". I pretty much had to yell at the guy to just sell me the damn new copy.
So I would assume the kid new about the return policy, but who knows? If they left that part out, then the kid has a right to be pissed.
So I would assume the kid new about the return policy, but who knows? If they left that part out, then the kid has a right to be pissed.
Even if this case comes out in the buyer's favor, retailers will just start throwing fine print onto the box (or will lobby publishers to do so, since it's in their interest to stress that DLC codes are a one-time only thing anyway), and that will be the end of it.
Not exactly earth-shattering stuff.
Not exactly earth-shattering stuff.
Hey, this actually gives me an idea. I just received my copy of Dragon Age: Origins from goozex, and i requested the Full Package option. I got the game, and the code, but it was non-redeemable. So I can sue the shit out of Goozex AND the dude who traded me the game! 2 birds, one fucking stone!
Man, this guy makes me hate myself for being from the U.S. It's a greedy money grab, he has a week to get his full money back if he is dissatisfied with his used product, ridiculous
I normally get pissed at this sort of thing, but in this case I that guy (and all of us, by extension) ends up at the top.
I hope this gets GameStop to sell used games for better than $5 less than new. WHAT CRAP. GameStop makes way more money than they're entitled to from that, and it puts used games just as far out of reach of poor gamers like students and all.
I hope this gets GameStop to sell used games for better than $5 less than new. WHAT CRAP. GameStop makes way more money than they're entitled to from that, and it puts used games just as far out of reach of poor gamers like students and all.
I'm with gamestop on this one, no way this guy gonna win this, like you all said above, used games have 7 days for refund. And he should of done that the idiot.
Well on the one hand, it IS a somewhat frivolous suit. On the other hand, they ARE overcharging. A $5 discount for a game missing $15 of content?
This is stupid. Supporting new buyers with extra content is great, I fully support it, but in reality you're paying for the game and getting 15 bucks of extras for free. So buying used and missing said content is not a cause to sue, it's just how used games have always been. How can you expect a USED game to still have the DLC token, which very rarely happens. That's why it's used.
That's like buying a used refrigerator and expecting it to still have the free ice tray included. Or something like that...
That's like buying a used refrigerator and expecting it to still have the free ice tray included. Or something like that...
Goozex CLEARLY says that you will not get ANY content.
They didn't have to do that in the slightest. This guy is a fucking idiot.
Do used car salesman have to say you won't be getting a new car smell?
They didn't have to do that in the slightest. This guy is a fucking idiot.
Do used car salesman have to say you won't be getting a new car smell?
Honestly though, who buys a used game that's just $5 cheaper than new? Realistically speaking, at that point it's not even worth it, just suck it up and buy it new, stop being a cheap bastard.
Also, it's obvious that this guy is just trying to score some free cash. GameStop has a return policy. Use it. Fucking retard.
Also, it's obvious that this guy is just trying to score some free cash. GameStop has a return policy. Use it. Fucking retard.
Magnalon, if that used car says it on the window that it includes that new car smell then the salesman has to inform you it won't.
false advertising is false advertising, if i buy a package of salt at kmart, and it says its a package of salt, but when i get home and open it up its a package of fucking pepper in a salt package, thats a fucking problem.
gamestop is in the wrong here and i'm just suprised it took this long before it was reconized. its not like they're a pawn shop and don't know what they have. thy know dam well what they have.
i love used games, but gamestop is hurting this industry more then pirates just on the fact that pirates don't charge you for a hacked game. gamestop makes money off yhose used games and does not give 1 penny to the publisher. most pirates i know will download a game hacked, and if they really like it, will buy the game new. kinda like a demo to them.
false advertising is false advertising, if i buy a package of salt at kmart, and it says its a package of salt, but when i get home and open it up its a package of fucking pepper in a salt package, thats a fucking problem.
gamestop is in the wrong here and i'm just suprised it took this long before it was reconized. its not like they're a pawn shop and don't know what they have. thy know dam well what they have.
i love used games, but gamestop is hurting this industry more then pirates just on the fact that pirates don't charge you for a hacked game. gamestop makes money off yhose used games and does not give 1 penny to the publisher. most pirates i know will download a game hacked, and if they really like it, will buy the game new. kinda like a demo to them.
@Qraze
It isn't false advertising! This is what it says!
"Downloadable character and quest
A $15 VALUE
One-time use code available with full retail purchase.
Expires April 30, 2010."
ONE TIME USE with FULL retail purchase. That wasn't a full retail purchase.
It isn't false advertising! This is what it says!
"Downloadable character and quest
A $15 VALUE
One-time use code available with full retail purchase.
Expires April 30, 2010."
ONE TIME USE with FULL retail purchase. That wasn't a full retail purchase.
@Magnalon
The problem here is, the one time use code? Wound up in the fucking DVD case. That's misrepresentation on GameStop's part. Not only did they not explicitly state, "DLC may not work" but they included the DLC coupon with the rest of the packaging.
DLC download codes are big fuck yous to gamers anyway. I'm surprised so many people stand up for them. Some game companies like EA and Activision don't give a shit about you and are actively trying to squeeze your balls until you squeal.
The problem here is, the one time use code? Wound up in the fucking DVD case. That's misrepresentation on GameStop's part. Not only did they not explicitly state, "DLC may not work" but they included the DLC coupon with the rest of the packaging.
DLC download codes are big fuck yous to gamers anyway. I'm surprised so many people stand up for them. Some game companies like EA and Activision don't give a shit about you and are actively trying to squeeze your balls until you squeal.
This won't go anywhere. The lawsuit complaint assumes the player is required to rush home and buy the DLC, which isn't the case.
@Taiki
Yeah. By giving new game purchasers free DLC. Shit man. That's the worst thing. THE WORST THING.
Yeah. By giving new game purchasers free DLC. Shit man. That's the worst thing. THE WORST THING.
Frivolous litigious things make me chuckle.
Hope this guy has to sell his system to pay legal fees.
Ziggy seagull is excellent.
Hope this guy has to sell his system to pay legal fees.
Ziggy seagull is excellent.
@ Taiki-
Yeah! Rewarding the customers who actually pay them for their product, instead of a third-party leech. How shitty!
Wait a minute...how is that a "fuck you" to gamers? I didn't feel fucked at all when I bought ME2 and got free shit for buying new. I felt rewarded for being what I am- a loyal customer who buys games new, not used. There absolutely should be incentives for the customers who support these companies and keep them in business. It is completely defensible not only from a business perspective, but also morally.
Yeah! Rewarding the customers who actually pay them for their product, instead of a third-party leech. How shitty!
Wait a minute...how is that a "fuck you" to gamers? I didn't feel fucked at all when I bought ME2 and got free shit for buying new. I felt rewarded for being what I am- a loyal customer who buys games new, not used. There absolutely should be incentives for the customers who support these companies and keep them in business. It is completely defensible not only from a business perspective, but also morally.
Considering their new policy of, "Make good rounds for you're fired," I don't think GameStop is ever going to inform customers that used games won't come with everything.
This is unbelievable stupid. Buying a used SoulSilver or HeartGold will come with no pokewalker. Many games that are traded in have no manual or box art. What kind of idiot thinks they should get the DLC if they don't even get a cover
@akathatoneguy, @frozenbabylon
It's not just DLC codes on new purchase, but it's also cases where four different chains with four different preorder exclusives. I'm not saying it should be illegal, I just think it's just further proof that gamers are willing to put up with being treated like shit over and over and they'll be thankful for it. Most DLC codes included in packaging enable content that's sitting on disc, and that's fucking abusive. That whole concept just reeks of dirty fucking pool, much less rewarding specific consumer loyalty. We're not just revenue streams, we're people for fuck's sake.
It's not just DLC codes on new purchase, but it's also cases where four different chains with four different preorder exclusives. I'm not saying it should be illegal, I just think it's just further proof that gamers are willing to put up with being treated like shit over and over and they'll be thankful for it. Most DLC codes included in packaging enable content that's sitting on disc, and that's fucking abusive. That whole concept just reeks of dirty fucking pool, much less rewarding specific consumer loyalty. We're not just revenue streams, we're people for fuck's sake.
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