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GameStop is safe from digital until 2017, says analyst photo

You'd think the retail games world was ending with company directors dumping over 2 million shares of stock. No worries...yet, says one analyst. GameStop is good until about 2017.

Ben Schachter of Broapoint AmTech thinks that GameStop has a few more years before digital downloads get all up in their business. In fact, he doesn't feel that the current console cycle, which is expected to last through 2014, will have much of an impact on their business at all.

"Technologically, full game downloads to a console are feasible already , but limited hard drive space  and bandwidth limitations create significant barriers," Schachter told IndustryGamers. "These barriers will obviously change over time, but the timing of the replacement cycle is key. Even if one assumes that by 2014 all new consoles have capabilities that eliminate storage and bandwidth concerns, it will still take several more years before these consoles have significant household penetration."

The analyst points to last year's sales of the download-only Grand Theft Auto content. Even one of the most popular games ever had a hard time selling a digital component.

For me, the date of 2017 seems kind of arbitrary. I'm not an analyst, but I see this coming sooner. I see the impact of downloading hitting retailers sooner. The last 6 games I bought were downloads, and a year or so ago, I would have never saw myself saying that.

 








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Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 16:44
Niero
Either way it's going to happen sooner or later. Naysayers can go look at Blockbuster.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 16:48
Char Aznable
Ben Schachter / Michael Pachter. Coincidence? I think not.

Wait, what are we talking about again?
h5e5l5l5o5's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 16:54
h5e5l5l5o5
Does anyone give a shit about these gaming analysts?! Seriously...they say random stuff and add a random time.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 16:54
CelicaCrazed
I'd buy more digitally distributed games if they were available.
KrazyKraut's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:00
KrazyKraut
Puhhh...i am glad to hear that...i was afraid to lose my money on the Final Fantasy XVIII pre-order...
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:05
Holyetheline
Digital is already on the verge of taking over.
Oncomouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:06
Oncomouse
I'd buy more distributed games if they were cheaper. Seriously, without manufacturing and distribution costs, digital goods should be a little cheaper.

I also worry about prices going down. Mass Effect is $30 on Xbox Live. I can get it used for under $15. I normally buy used games and sell all but the ones I really want to keep in a permanent collection when I'm done. I'm pretty much boned when the physical market dries up.
brundlefly's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:07
brundlefly
@CelicaCrazed
PC or consoles? 'Cause steam has pretty much every game worth having. Otherwise, wait till the next iteration of consoles, which will likely not have disks at all, or at least will do digital releases simultaneously.

2017 sounds reasonable. It's about what i'd expect, though i wouldn't be surprised if it turns over quicker than most anticipate.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:08
Wedge
For it to penetrate all the way through the mainstream... that's probably about right. Just because I buy tons of shit through DD, doesn't mean much. It's when the mass of people that buy games from Walmart get them that way, it's going to kill off Gamestop.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:10
Xzyliac
As long as there are people like me without money there will always be a market for physical products. This just means those outlets need to get off their asses and develop a new business model.
SneakerElph's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:14
SneakerElph
"The last 6 games I bought were downloads, and a year or so ago, I would have never saw myself saying that."

The thing about that is it's not representative of the general public. The gaming community is a fairly small, albeit vocal community. I'd be willing to bet that if you walked along the street asking people who owned an Xbox 360 if they were aware of the games that were available for download, and 9 out of 10 will tell you they had no idea, nor do they care since the price is the same as retail.

I have friends who I'll suggest an XBLA game (like Braid) to, and (after explaining to them the concept of the Xbox Live Arcade that they still don't know about) they'll say "Ah, I don't have Xbox Live so I can't get that." People just aren't aware that these things are there, and that you don't need to have a Gold subscription to get them.

A good number of people never hook up their Xbox to the internet at all. I was at my girlfriend's parent's house not too long ago, and their Xbox still has the old dashboard.

People don't know, or care that this stuff exists. Even if you can make it known that it exists, as long as it costs the same as retail it will take a long time to take hold. Sure, I don't have to leave my house to buy Bioshock anymore, but I do need to wait six hours for it to download. I could let it run overnight, draining my internet speeds and running up my power bill, or I can just pick it up at Gamestop on the way home from school tomorrow.

It's going to take a console generation that relies solely on DD for it to take hold. The PSP Go is doing this, though I wouldn't argue that it's a "new generation" of systems. At the end of the day, the general population just stops by the store and looks at the covers and backs of games and buys whatever they think looks coolest. They go home, pop it in, and play. They don't give a shit about DLC or Achievements or any of that, just that it works and they didn't have to wait for it once they decided to buy it. They probably got a better deal at the store, since individual stores can compete and have sales, etc.
CaptainApocalypse's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:18
CaptainApocalypse
I gotta agree with Eggdog14. Steam has just about everything I want to play as well. I much prefer the idea of DD to physical media; if only because it is less crap to lug around. That was why I was so disappointed with the PSP Go. Taking all those UMDs around sucks. Same goes for my PC. No discs means no need for CD Hacks for games I legally own.
dj-anon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:25
dj-anon
Also, I'm not going to go bald until 2022, that's what my study concluded.
Brandnamecommercial's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:37
Brandnamecommercial
Controllers will all be dildos by 2019, that's what my study concluded.
Static Jak's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:38
Static Jak
I'm going with SneakerElph on this.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:39
Occams electric toothbrush
I like owning things. I like having shelves filled with games. This dissappoints me.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 17:40
CelicaCrazed
@ eggdog14

I was talking more about consoles since I'm not much of a Steam user yet. That will all change the second I decide to upgrade my PC though. And although I make myself out to be a bit of a "digital distribution fanboy" at times, the thought of downloading 25GB of data still scares me. But for games in the Warhawk and Burnout range, I like the download option.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 18:03
Xzyliac
@SneakerElph
Not that I disagree with you but we are talking almost 10 years down the pipeline.
ninjalegend's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 18:33
ninjalegend
@Oncomouse:
I agree. I picked up Tenchu for the ps2. $2.99 to get my stealth on in preparation for Assassins Creed 2. Match that or come close, and I'm on board. How about 3 year old or more games $5-$15?
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 18:47
Kalmah
But... I thought the world was going to end in 2012?
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 19:05
pedrovay2003
I fucking hate digital distribution. I swear, when the gaming industry goes to that 100%, I really may not be playing many games anymore.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 19:15
RenegadePanda
The day we lose physical media is the day I quit gaming. Digital distribution is bullshit, I want a disc. If I'm paying physical money, 9 times out of 10 I would like a physical product. This whole digital crap is just a trend that will slowly die as people realize the problems with it.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 19:36
Electrium
Yeah, Blockbuster is closing, but CDs are still sold in stores, and iTunes has been popular for FAR longer than Netflix and the like. Hell, freakin' vinyls are still sold in music stores (which also still exist despite digital distribution). I understand the platform developers are in control in this industry, but they can't afford to completely screw over the majority of the market that still buy their games in physical form.

I love owning physical copies of games. I love having shelves that display my collection, I love having my games stored in my house and knowing that they are secure, even if my hard drive dies, even if my system explodes. As long as games cost more online than they do used, I doubt Gamestop will suffer. Look at Microsoft and their views on Live - they have said before that they do not ever intend on dropping prices. 10 years from now when I want to replay Mass Effect, I would be forced to pay what, $20 for a digital copy? That game is $15 used now, and will be even less next gen. That fact alone is pure bullshit, and makes me want to slap anyone who embraces the "digital distribution age" in the face. The game industry is in enough of a monopoly as it is, I don't need developers deciding how much I have to pay for every game.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 19:41
HEL105
Let's not forget that the infrastructure for broadband internet is simply not there in many parts of the U.S. That's not going to change overnight, and a rapid change to an all digital future would completely exclude all those customers.
Jared Ari's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2009 21:43
Jared Ari
I for one would be extremely pissed if I could no longer go to a store and buy a video game. I actually enjoy walking around the store, browsing old and new titles, used and plastic-bound alike. The day that is taken away from me, I will be playing considerably less games, simply because there is a big difference between owning a physical copy of a game and the digital rights to play it.
makesfive's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2009 11:33
makesfive
It really depends on how the pricing of digital games goes.
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2009 20:34
matrixdude171
Until a terabite harddrive becomes standard size, consoles will always be needing to replace theirs.
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