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GameSpot denies shady wrongdoing over the firing of Gerstmann photo

GameSpot has finally addressed the firing of Jeff Gerstmann in public, and anybody who expected the site to admit to cloak-and-dagger shenanigans is going to be disappointed. Citing "legal constraints" for not telling the real story behind the controversy, the once-trusted site has nevertheless denied any and all accusations.

"... Contrary to widespread and unproven reports, his exit was not a result of pressure from an advertiser," GameSpot claimed in its post. CNET's Greg Brannan added that neither CNET nor GameSpot has ever allowed advertising to affect editorial content.

The whole address is very carefully worded. Terms such as "part ways," "departure" and "tenure has ended" are used and not once is there any direct clue that CNET/GameSpot had fired the man. In fact, the uninitiated may even be led to believe that Jeff's "departure" was amicable and that Gerstmann had happily skipped away to pastures green rather than discovered he was locked out of his office, as the "unproven rumors" claim.

What do we think? Is GameSpot pulling out the spin and serving us a steaming plate of PR bulls*it, or does truth tickle the tainted tongue of GameSpot's words? Just looking at the comments that follow 'Spot's post indicates that it'll take more than a sugarcoated denial to convince the site's readers. As for we here at Cashwh0re, formerly Destructoid, we'd just like to support GameSpot in what must be a very difficult time. We all know how hard it is to type a farewell post with all the gold chains and silken garments from the finest tailors of Savile Row weighing you down.

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Enkaybee's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:33
Enkaybee
Gamespot sure is quick on the draw.... Yeah, it only took them like a WEEK to deny wrongdoing.
Techno Mage's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:34
Techno Mage
Bullshit. That is all.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:36
DeusPayne
Mmm.... the taste of PR is so bitter.
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:38
timtheterrible
I thought there was no such thing as bad press?
WeAreToast's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:40
WeAreToast
I hope "We didn't do it" isn't all they had to say. I've been boycotting GS the whole day, as have other members (we return tomorrow). I'll check it then.
WeAreToast's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:41
WeAreToast
Sorry for a double-post, but what I mean by "other members" is GS members. Just clearing that out.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:41
MaxVest
I honestly have felt that this whole "advertiser pressure" angle has been a little suspect. I mean, what boss would honestly fire someone this transparently? I think the slow PR response means that they didn't even see this reaction coming.

My totally uninformed guess: Gerstmann and his boss have not been seeing eye-to-eye on the new "casual gamer" focus at GameSpot for some time, and Larson decided to clean house by firing the perceived ringleader of his opposition.

That's 100% made up, but feel free to spread that one around too.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:42
Excel-2011
If you're "formerly Destructoid", why haven't all of your banners and mastheads been updated to reflect this yet?
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:43
Clockwork
So is there any word as to where he's currently working? After this whole thing, I'd imagine video game sites are throwing jobs at him in order to make a point that CNET should be sued on a count of shenanigans.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:44
Jim Sterling
The-Excel:

Stop nitpicking gags or no girls will like you!
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:44
Boolean
So has anyone actually heard from Jeff yet? It seems the whole ordeal is yet to actually be verified from him, which would be funny if he came out and said "oh no I quit, they complained about my review and I walked. Why, what was the internet saying?".
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:49
MaxVest
@Boolean: This is all so far.
Seth338's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:53
Seth338
You know after all that favorable Naruto review i have noticed a few naruto game ads here... just saying.
Harkonnen's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 22:57
Harkonnen
This reminds me of all those hypocrites who first plot to kill the King, then take over, then pay a sensible tribute to his memory.

Not that I even liked Gertsmann's style, but wrongs are wrong.
TheBrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:09
TheBrain
Please stop confusing Gamespot with CNet. kthx
JReaper617's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:21
JReaper617
Well it's pretty safe to say it's BS one of the most well known members of a site does not just pack up and leave suddenly after 10 years...gamespot if just one massive FAIL
UNDERSTAR's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:23
UNDERSTAR
This is like some straight up shiot from the Fox News Network man!
Origim's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:25
Origim
They must have the oldest, slowest PR department in the world. They also need to hire better liars if this is the route their going to pursue. They could have got a PR goon off his couch when this story broke and maybe they wouldnt be in this mess.
crizz's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:25
crizz
Gamespot being all defensive and stuff. Oh NOES! There goes the intarweb!!

Guess all the flaming has gotten their attention. We will never hear the way it actually went down. But it's nice to know that they "care."

Now give me some more 9's and 10's!!
CASHWHORE 4 LIFE!
JReaper617's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:28
JReaper617
Ok so i'm sure the review wasn't wrong from Jeff but is Kane & Lynch really that bad?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:37
Sharpless
Of course they're not going to admit it. Every other person who's spoken out, however, contends with CNET's take on it. The site has lost all credibility, now and forever.
odintal's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:48
odintal
even if (large bold red if) what gamespot says is true they're still screwed in the court of public opinion. they screwed up for firing Jeff when they did more than how they did.
urbanyeti's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:49
urbanyeti
It's all shady business. Shady shady business.
tkyy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2007 23:53
tkyy
tagged the story with bullshit and cake.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 00:02
John B
@tkyy:

The cake is a lie but the BS in the story seems to be very real.
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 00:10
Velt
Yeah i blogged about this one since it striked me that it wasnt on the site yet... anyway, they are trying to rev down the flames a bit, they dont have a lot of options: they cant just get another guy to do on the spot like if Gertsmann never existed, they have to cancel the show last week. Also i want to listen to the hotspot podcast...

I can imagine gamespot staff must not be in the best of the moods... no en of year parties this time...
itemforty's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 00:47
itemforty
this is a song I just wrote:

BULLSHIT SHIT SHIT!

thank you.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 00:51
Aaron Mxy Yost
I still find it amusing the only "insider" to come out on the side of Cnet in this whole thing was someone allegedly on the ad team. Yeah, those are the people you'd want to trust in this whole matter.

If the K & L video review hadn't been pulled and the text review hadn't be edited, I might be willing to give C|net benefit of the doubt. But they seriously fucked the dog in this whole situation.
Farktoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 01:19
Farktoid
Honestly, it's too late. Remember when Rockstar took so long to come out that they fugged up by not admitting to the Hot Coffee? Well this isn't really like this because an outside party exposed the problem with a hack only available to those in the know.

It's still too late though. Gamespot can eat balls.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 01:30
Bob Muir
I'm still not believing this. I suppose we'll never know the truth, though.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 01:31
Bob Muir
I'm still not believing this. I suppose we'll never know the truth, though.
slayoyayo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 01:48
slayoyayo
fuck gamespot... and yo i havent heard the name cnet in years... remember when that shit started as a tv show??
GonzoJoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 03:06
GonzoJoe
cnet's flagship podcast addressed the issue today too
http://reviews.cnet.com/8300-11455_7-10.html?tag=cnetfd.pdcst
they bring up an interesting point, and that's that if the supposition that jeff was fired for his review turns out to be true, they would probably lose more than just traffic... a lot of their editors, for both cnet and gamespot, would jump ship too.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 03:25
Syn
Wow, they waited so long to say something and they didn't even have the common decency to make up a good lie.
uptonogood's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 04:45
uptonogood
i think the dude's deafening silence speaks enough in itself -- he's just watching from the sidelines as GS squirms and enjoying every second of it.

or he's legally gagged by terms of a settlement from saying anything.

or both.

either way, i'm sure he's enjoying the shit out of it, if he really was locked out of his office.
dark_inchworm's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 06:56
dark_inchworm
Gamespot's cake? No good.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 06:58
Samit Sarkar
@TheBrain: Well, CNET Networks is the parent company of GameSpot (as well as TV.com, GameFAQs, and many other sites).

I don’t know anymore...I still think this is a bunch of PR bullshit, but now there’s the slightest bit of doubt that there was a controversy at all. As Necros said, we may never know what really happened...do those firing NDAs have an expiration date or something, so maybe Jeff can give us the gory details in, say, five years?
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 07:36
BlindsideDork
Yeah, like they will admit to something like this...
SniperFodder's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 07:56
SniperFodder
The link to Gamespot says, "invalid board", did they take it dowm?
SgtBilbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 07:58
SgtBilbo
My BS Meter is going into overdrive. I used to enjoy their vid reviews...oh well. Guess there's always...uh...IGN?
realyst's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 08:06
realyst
The fact that they took out the video review is proof enough.

Seriously. If it was an amicable departure or even a "My boss hates me" situation, they still wouldn't just happen to pick the one video review that blasted the game they just happened to be advertising the shit out of that day.

They could have fired him and still kept the video review just fine. That's why I think this all smells of corporate bullshit.
weedgan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 08:07
weedgan
Looks like it crashed, too much traffic.
SniperFodder's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 08:15
SniperFodder
No, I just think Gamespot won't let cashwh0re link directly to them...
Paustinj's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 08:38
Paustinj
So much fail...
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 10:02
Excel-2011
I find it a big laugh that they're going to feature an editors' tribute to Gerstmann. I wonder how much of it they're going to censor. Probably they're only going to keep the words that have anything to do with whatever good he did.
Rosseh's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:31
Rosseh
This might be a stupid suggestion, why can't we ask Gerstman? I'm assuming he has an email address or something? Why has there been such a lack of information on this subject?
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:48
Corak
The problem with asking Gerstman is there might be some kind of "gag" order on him. I have no clue if a company can do that but something tells me that there might be a clause somewhere that a employee can not discuss any company policies or practices following termination. If Gerstman talks they might be able to withold any unemployment money, severance package, or 401k offered to him. Again I have no idea if thats possible just something that popped in my head. If not I think he would have said something by now about it, you know put the record straight.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:53
king3vbo
I call shenanigans
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