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We going obscure on this bitch -- this week's forgotten game is an SNES port of an arcade platformer, and it's a shallow mishmash of a few different gaming genres that turns out to be decently entertaining.

Joe & Mac is a little bit Contra, a little bit Mario, and a little bit Street Fighter. It also holds a special place in my heart, as it was one of the first games I ever owned for my Super Nintendo, and (unfortunately) the first game I ever sold to anyone. If you're a fan of scantily clad men running around and hitting one-dimensional enemies with phallic symbols -- in other words, if you enjoyed 300 -- you'll probably dig Joe & Mac.

Story:

The green-haired one is Joe. The other one is Mac. 

Gameplay:

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Joe & Mac, referred to from this point on as Joe and Mac because I can't stand having to find the ampersand on my keyboard, is an action platformer: as said before the jump, it melds the jumping and platforming of Super Mario with the numerous enemies, upgrades, and projectile weapons of Contra. Each side-scrolling level simply consists of a myriad of prehistoric beasts attacking Joe and Mac, who have to thwack and thwomp their way to the end boss. All in all, pretty standard stuff.

This is usually the point in the article where I'd say "except for the fact that _____." But I can't really use that sentence in reference to Joe and Mac, because there's really not much that separates it from the pack of numerous arcade ports available on the SNES: while it does meld a few different action genres together, it does them so seamlessly that it feels totally familiar. Even when I played it as a child, I didn't stop to think, "Wow! This is like if you mixed Bubsy the Bobcat with Robocop vs Terminator!"* 

That being said, it's still a solid experience: while the controls are too loose (especially considering the number of tricky jumps one has to make throughout the game) and the levels far too short (level 3 lasts literally about 30 seconds), Joe and Mac typifies the flawed-yet-entertaining arcade gameplay so common to the early-to-mid-90's. In co-op mode, friendly fire is always on: as a result, the first and second player can completely ignore the platforming aspect and essentially transform the game into one giant round of Street Figher. Given the limited amount of moves and powerups (there are about five different projectile weapons, two different kinds of jumps, and a roll manuever), part of the fun to be had is exploiting the resources of the level to beat the crap out of the other player. Truth be told, the game is actually more fun as a PvP fighter than a co-op platformer. Though this shouldn't suggest one cannot meld the two genres: fight your way to the end-level boss cooperatively, then turn on each other at the moment it appears and turn the entire affair into one huge free-for-all.

Oh, and when your character dies, you can control his floating spirit as it leaves his body, which -- in certain areas -- can result in achieving otherwise unobtainable powerups. All things considered, there's something to be said for a game that considers death as just another opportunity to achieve something previously impossible. Very transcendental, if you ask me.

Which, all things considered, you probably shouldn't.

Why You Probably Haven't Played It:

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Admittedly, the game was popular enough to warrant multiple ports (SNES, Genesis, NES, Game Boy, Amiga, PC) and a sequel: at the time of its release, it was frequently played, and moderately appreciated.

Still, I've had a hard time finding people who still remember it. Hell, my sister and I used to play this all the time, and even after playing the game in front of her, she couldn't dig up a single memory of the times we spent playing this game cooperatively. This might be due more to the inexorable march of time than anything else, but it also probably has something to do with the fact that, for all its quality and unintentionally emergent gameplay, Joe and Mac just doesn't feel that special. It's easy to write it off as just another action-platformer, and you wouldn't even necessarily be wrong to write it off as such: granted, you'd be missing a pretty entertaining side-scroller, but labelling Joe and Mac as "just another ___" wouldn't put you particularly far off the mark.

It's fun, it's clever, it's flawed, and it's sadly forgettable: ladies and gentlemen, Joe and Mac.

*Fun fact: I had goddamned awful taste in videogames as a child.








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Aaron Linde's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 00:51
Aaron Linde
This right here? This is the shit.

We're gonna netplay this when I get back from E3.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 00:54
pedrovay2003
I still have this sitting upstairs with my other SNES games. I used to play it all the time for hours with my brother. Now THIS is what we need on the Virtual Console. Hell, even a remake on the Live Arcade would be kinda cool to see.
Sindicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 00:56
Sindicate
Joe and Mac was one of the most amazing games I ever played for snes..

for some stupid reason I bought bonks shitty ass adventure on virtual console right when it came out, thinking it was Joe and Mac.

I seriously wish somebody wouldve slapped me for making that horrible mistake. blah.
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:04
Jordan Devore
I've don't own Joe & Mac, but I have the sequel and it's way too much fun.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:12
Aaron Mxy Yost
I remember this, it was a pretty fun co-op game.
Yooree's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:13
Yooree
I don't remember it being Joe & Mac: Caveman Ninja.
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:16
Anthony Burch
Yeah, it was just regular Joe and Mac for me as a kid. I guess the one I found and didn't emulate was an international version or something.
Yooree's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:19
Yooree
:D :D
s0lesurviv0r's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:25
s0lesurviv0r
I remember my little brother and I would play this at our local arcade, he'd kill me "by accident" then dig into my pockets and steal more tokens.
UNDERSTAR's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:48
UNDERSTAR
Ahh Joe & Mac. The only memory I have of this game is when they had in the 90s show, Nick Arcade or some bs name. Good times, cheers!
Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:51
Orionsaint
This games so easy a caveman could beat it.
Zaron's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:52
Zaron
God I loved this game as a kid.
0bshaky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:56
0bshaky
Daaaaaaaaaaamn!! great old game. it had a sequel... forgot its name... I rmember I got this game trading with a friend for two nes games, Wrath of the Black Manta and Turrican... I think...
Morca's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:57
Morca
I used to play this with my friend on his giant-ass projector all the time.
Demosthenes's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:03
Demosthenes
Oh man...
When I bought my SNES from a friend, this is the only game that came with it. I remember being completely amazed by how "awesome" the graphics were compared to the NES. My dad was less impressed.
Leon-G's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:45
Leon-G
This game.. or perhaps its sequel was one of my first experiences with a final boss who had more than one form. When I was young and unaware of trends in platform game bosses I encountered the final boss of this game and after much trial and frustration, i finally beat the final boss.. at least I thought I did.. then he got back up and put on some crown, turned red, and got a hell of a lot harder. he killed me. And I had to fight his original form again. Needless to say I was unimaginably pissed.. I dont know if I ever did beat that game..
Chazboski's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:06
Chazboski
God, I find myself really missing this game. Had a blast growing up playing this with buddies on Saturday mornings.
VTSvsAlucard's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:26
VTSvsAlucard
"This right here? This is the shit. "

Nail on the head man. This game was so amzing when I was like 5. Shit. it was so good... with the tires and th rang and the dinos and the waterfall !!!!

This and Legend of the Mystical Ninja (HELL YES) are a lot of my childhood.
DrRockso's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:31
DrRockso
I cannot begin to tell you how much I played the PC version of this game back in the day.

Makin' me all misty-eyed, Rev...
dfielder's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:57
dfielder
HA good to see I wasn't the only one who loved this game (and the sequel)
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 04:17
Joseph Leray
I remember playing the shit out of Joe and Mac with my cousins. Good stuff.
winojesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 04:18
winojesus
i spent my entire pocket money (allowance to you infidels out there) on this in the arcade and pretended to my folks that i got mugged.
i still feel guilty as shit about that.
danmed catholicism.
Skallah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:06
Skallah
Adventure Island was still better IMO.
the GAMEGOBLIN's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 08:05
the GAMEGOBLIN
Joe and Mac owns. I beat that when I was nine years old with my brother. It was an awesome game. The most memorable part for me was when you get eaten and your traveling through the dinosaur's stomach. That is the right game, right?
bloodylip's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 08:12
bloodylip
I remember this game being hard as shit. I think I used the game genie or something, and still couldn't beat the final boss demon in his red form. Maybe I just sucked.
bobby200's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 09:02
bobby200
This game was a controller-throwing ripoff then and it still is now. My man Doomeru skewered this review here: '

http://resignedgamer.blogspot.com/2007/07/destructoid-goes-digging-finds-some.html
LadyLucifer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 09:31
LadyLucifer
Lol, I found the game mildly entertaining, though I always died, much like my days being Luigi; I was always cannon fodder for this genre.
But the game I keep close to my heart is still Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles In Time <3

http://www.gamespot.com/snes/action/teenagemutantninjaturtles/

p.s. Michaelangelo ftw.
rodrigourquiza's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 11:08
rodrigourquiza
Ahhhhh.... Joe and Mac, what an oldie funny fella!!

I didn´t own it but me and my brother used to rent it often, more then just a few times, i must add... :D

Ahhh.... the quarrels on who shot at who on the most delicate moment.

That brought loads of childhood memories... Thanks guys.. :D

GameGags
gamingal's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 14:12
gamingal
Joe and Mac blows - always has and always will. I happened to read the following blog which sums up this game perfectly...better than I could!
http://resignedgamer.blogspot.com/
LadyLucifer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 14:34
LadyLucifer
^ Dear one-time-poster (above). Your opionon does not matter in the slightest. Laym.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 15:22
Wedge
Well apparentley everyone here remembers it. Sort of. I have fuzzy memories of the arcade version, and possilby the SNES one.

Yeah.
Cyberxion's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 17:22
Cyberxion
Yeah, I've played this. Really enjoyed it back in the day too.

Anyone try the NES version? Take everything that was broken or wonky about the SNES version, and multiply it all by a factor of a million.
Cyberxion's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 17:49
Cyberxion
Yeah, that blog that calls D-Toid out on this piece? It's a worthless bit of ranting from a douche-bag who clearly didn't read the article in it's entirety.

All the idiot's points were addressed in this piece. D-Toid didn't fail to touch on them. No this guy, with all the splendor of a basement-dwelling loser, failed spectacularly at actually reading this thing before plopping his fat ass down at his keyboard in a huff. Instead of coming across as a wake up call to D-Toid, what he wrote in his blog did more to advertise his incredible stupidity.

Really, I'm sure that the guy sat there afterwards in a cheeto induced frenzy, sweating profusely, proud that he managed to take it to the man. He failed. Miserably.
Andrex's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 19:34
Andrex
oh thats the game i was looking for before, thanks rev =D, and yeah really great 2 player game back in the past
MagisterLudi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2007 09:40
MagisterLudi
LOL Cheetos. Joe and Mac was fun. If you want a seriously lame 2 player game on SNES, check out GunForce. Imagine a half-assed Metal Slug clone with terrible slowdown. Plus, the heroes' faces looked like goggle--faced nerds. Wish I could find a picture of that on google.
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