Let the very hard work begin. Thank you ALL for your early support. We promise we will not let you down.
or is that in phase two?
As a gamer, can you say that you have no bias opinions on any matters, specifically those relating to video games? Didn't think so. One of the thing so refreshing about DToid is that the journalists actually are people. They have a right to express their opinions, and they do so wonderfully. Everyone in the world forms their own, personal opinions on every issue they have ever been exposed to. Trying to say that someone will never be taken seriously for simply showing that they are a living, breathing human like the rest of us is pretty snide and ridiculous.
@Jim and David
You can't see me, but I'm standing and applauding right now. Er... well, I was before I started typing. Either way, you guys rock my frickin' socks off. I am so proud to be part of this community (only actually registered recently, but been reading for a long time), especially when we have representatives such as you two who truly want to make sure that our entertainment industry does not get the proverbial shaft.
I will continue to support you and the G4G movement in any way that I can. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to our victory, however long-off if may be.
An organized pro-gamer interest group has been a long time coming.
Once again Good work Jim. No room for fanboyism here.. this affects us all as adult gamers. Same to you Sir David. Thanks!
Thanks for the support for us so far, guys. I think we can all pull together on this one, regardless of what side of the console war we're on, what conflicts we might have. That's just somethin' special, know what I mean?
I think a community movement which lobbies your local MP's, and becomes visible in the media with articulate arguments will ultimately be successful. Hang in there!!
Oh, and if we can get some bigger names (not that DToid isn't big!) in with us, then I think we have a much better chance of this succeeding. Can you DToid boys pull any strings to get us some connections within the industry to support our cause?
You thought we WEREN'T going to get developers on board? The word is going out, mark my words, and I will personally see to it that we have good news on that front. I will do what's needed to get the right people on board.
Gamers and games are often misunderstood. It is so easy for someone to look in on people who play violent games for pleasure and fear the fabricated repercussions of its connotation. How could they possibly be good in any way?
On the other hand, I look at some of the things that non-gamers do that I may think are bad for society and not understand their actions, either. I don't really have to, though. Art and beauty are in the eye of the beholder. Just because I don't see it as art doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't either.
I don't like torture-porns, but I have a lot of friends that do. I'm not going to make an effort to stop torture-porns just because I don't get the same enjoyment out of them as other people, or because I'm afraid someone may mimic those events. If anything is going to affect our actions, it will be other people, not a vehicle for entertainment, no matter how much I may or may not care for it.
Gamers For Gaming is truly a genius name as it simply suggests that it is the gamers who should be deciding what games they play. It's important to support the ESRB and get the word out to people about it.
In the same respect, it's not right for the government to tap our phone calls and invade our privacy for the sake of public protection. While it may prevent some very unfortunate situations, it also has the opposite effect and creates certain unfortunate situations; ie a reduction in our ability to make our own decisions and enjoy freedom. Our right should end where another mans nose begins, but we shouldn't attack someone just because they may get a little too close to said nose. And what happens when we've adjusted to that? What's the next step the government takes? Should we abandon democracy? Is it better to lead a cookie cutter life than it is to lead a life full of cookies? Do we extinguish other religions because they conflict with our own? Should we? What if your religion is the one that is getting extinguished?
It may be scary to see someone getting enjoyment out of things that you'll never understand, but no one should let ignorance convert into fear. The best way to avoid fear is through education. If the possibilities of gaming really scare you, you should learn more about it. I believe that the person who should make the final decision is the person who knows the most about it.
Let the gamers decide.
Gamers For Gaming. I'm in.
Very well stated.
I guess I can relate what you're saying to music. I'm a musician and currently a university student pursuing a music degree..I really dislike country music.. Country music is about as brainless as my left nut, but there is a population of the people out there who enjoy it and I respect that and I don't insult them because of their choice of music.
On the flip-side..I'm a big jazzer..I love jazz, I love to play it and so do millions of others in the world, but there is a certain population that doesn't understand jazz music, but the don't say DOWN WITH TEH JAZZ!! They respect it.
If people we're all the same this would be a boring ass life. Complete censorship brings in that cookie-cutter mentality..as a society..as a species...we must all not conform to one single like or dislike..we must adapt and further... and I forgot where I was going with this..
But in retrospect, maybe the reason I dislike country is because I don't understand it. Who knows?
I didn't say ANYTHING about bias or journalistic creativity or what was in your responce; I guess you were grouping me in with people whose comments were more relevant to your responce, but I'm not responcible for those. I said that this site is run obnoxiously, in that the conduct is generally very unserious and doesn't attempt to uphold any sort of professional or intellectual standards. Maybe that's okay and these people have their reasons and think it's fun or something. But considering that, I imagine it's going to be difficult to be taken seriously, as any sort of social or intellectual movement includes a moral evaluations on a standard of judgment, meanwhile the general attitude of dtoid seems to be a hedonistic, nihilistic type of disregard for any sort of rationality or principle. This happens to be oddly mixed in with a practical way of exchanging information about video games, which it does well, but I don't think that's going to help much for this sort of thing.
P.S. No I don't think I have bias in my writing, despite your pretentious "didn't think so." Maybe in subject matter I do, but I wouldn't call that bias, and I believe all the evaluations I offer are at least attempts at objective demonstration.
@other guy who said something about me.
Don't be such a whoever you are. Yeah. How about that.
1)Get the gaming sites together, including blogs and official sites
2)Lobby your local law makers
3)Get air time on TV and radio to get your voice heard that this goes beyond just wanting to play a agame and it goes against our civil librities
4)Bring the message to Nintendo and Sony that we are ok with AO rated games on their systems
5)Tell retailers that if they don't sell the game then we will order it online from somewhere else
;)
I've been playing games since I can remember, who is to tell me that a game will damage me or make me become violent. I've beat countless hookers in GTA, ran over god knows how many pedestrians, and ate thousands of mushrooms as Mario, yet in real life it upsets me to see two people fight! I could never go hunting as I don't think I could even shoot an animal. The only damage a game will ever do to me is maybe strain my eyes a little and give me carpal tunnel, and if that's the case maybe WoW should be banned, who knows how much damage that game has caused to my hands! If something is too disturbing to play I simply won't play it, end of story.
I'm glad someone is trying to do something about this; I back you guys up %100
You guys have my undying respect for doing this. Long live Jim, Dave, Destructoid!
Not sure if manhunt2 is coming to New Zealand but when a game runs into trouble in UK or Oz our rating board tends to follow suit.
I will help if I can and now plan to find out if said game will make it to my shores.

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