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Read the comments sections of many gaming blogs and you'd be inclined to believe that the gamer populace is morally opposed to in-game advertising with the fervent passion of a thousand fornicating chimpanzees. A new study, however, indicates that 82% of gamers actually don't care about in-game marketing, or at least accept it.

"82 percent felt games were just as enjoyable with ads as without," states the study, conducted by the Nielson company and in-game advertisers IGA Worldwide. The study also claims that "there was an average 61 percent increase in consumers' favorable opinions of products advertised in-game post-play."

Of course, these are marketing men telling you that their marketing works, but it's an interesting suggestion nonetheless. The average gamer (not so much the hardline ones as you or I) don't seem to really give a stuff.

Personally, so long as ads aren't detrimental, I have never had a big issue with it either. Product placement is fine by me if it doesn't hamper my enjoyment of a given game or becomes too overbearing. Until Solid Snake tells us that he "can't resist the finger lickin' taste of KFC? ... Can't be," then I'm fine with him and his iPod shenanigans. I know some among us are more vocally against advertising, however, so what do you make of this study?








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OMFG A HOBO's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:28
OMFG A HOBO
coke sux, yea pepsi
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:29
Jim Sterling
Pepsi fanboy.
NightmareKira's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:34
NightmareKira
I have to agree with you Jim. I'm fine with it as long as it doesn't get too insane. I have to add though if they are going to do that then how about knocking down game prices a little.
adam locked's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:34
adam locked
Totally agree with your last paragraph. Until it is a determinate to the game by becoming too overbearing, then I don't mind. I thought Snake's iPod was really cool in MGS4. I think having certain products or billboards in some games (like Burnout Paradise) add a hint of realism to the game by seeing things in the game that you would normally see in real life. So therefore, I don't mind. And I really can't think of one game that has gone too over the top in advertising to make me unenjoy it.
A Humble Mr Perfect's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:35
A Humble Mr Perfect
Yeah. let's raise the flag of solidarity, as we are swarmed on all sides by ads for "Spelling Bee" and the "Quest"...
SysiphusRock's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:35
SysiphusRock
Considering I'm bombarded with ads on Xbox Live yet still have to pay 50$ when Sony offers the same thing for free, and Wii has a crippled version but functional (had very few problems brawling with my girlfriend) all without significant advertising. I think something's amiss. Now ads in baseball parks in an MLB game? Fine. But don't tell me Pontiac contributed ANYTHING when we have a "Pontiac presents: Instant Replay" or whatever.


So tired of that TEETH ad on my dashboard.
SWE3tMadness's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:41
SWE3tMadness
I don't normally care about it because I don't notice it when playing. If it's not shiny or shooting at me, I don't register it in the heat of battle. >.>

Of course, Nintendo probably realized this in Pikmin 2 when most of the loot you were required to find consisted of actual licensed products. But that kind of made the game better in a way - it added a weird sense of realism. You could believe that this was really Earth at one point. Pretty eerie.
RICHARD BLOCKER's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:43
RICHARD BLOCKER
I have no problem looking at ad in game IF some of the revenue is passed along to the gamer in form of keeping prices low. This is just a pipe dream though. But hey, that's capitalism, baby!
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:48
B-Radicate
I don't mind advertising in games IF it makes sense within the context of the game world.

Playing through the latest Rainbow Six games and seeing advertisements for real movies that were actually being released made me feel as though the world was that much more realistic and alive. That's perfectly fine by me.

Now, had I seen those same advertisements in a game such as BioShock, well... let's just say it would have totally pissed me off because it would be absurd within that particular world, to say the least.
Alasdair Duncan's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:49
Alasdair Duncan
As long as it's not in your face adverts, I don't mind. The billboards and bus stop adverts in Rainbow 6: Vegas looked just like real adverts you'd see day to day, so that wasn't bad. As long as we don't have Mario shilling for MacDonalds at some point....
Brad Nicholson's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:51
Brad Nicholson
I'm numb to it, to be frank.
Lewis Bell's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 08:55
Lewis Bell
Pepsi MAX is the shit, i used to like it when they did it with lemon and lime but I think that has stopped now
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:01
EternalDeathSlayer
I don't really care either way. It doesn't bother me. But I did get very annoyed when I saw all the Apple stuff in MGS4.

Besides being overpriced, they're not really that great to begin with. And I hate iPods so of course I didn't bother collecting music.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:02
Kryptinite
I wish in-game advertising made the game cheaper.
Matthew Blake's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:08
Matthew Blake
It does- for the producer.
foxhound009's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:14
foxhound009
it must fit in the game... such as in "highway tampa" map in BF2142 .. the intel signs and so on...
I like it...
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:22
psycho terror2
i don't mind advertising in context such as billboards or even tv ads or whatever, since it actually adds a little realism and probably brings either the game price down, or the quality up.

i HIGHLY object to snakes ipod though.

it's entirely uncalled for and unrealistic, shameless even and i cannot believe that you, jim sterling, the angriest of angry game bloggers can abide by it.

god damn apple fanboy.
ghets's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:23
ghets
I think the only time ive been bothered by in-game advertising was in Fight Night Round 3 when you have the fucking King as your corner man in the Burger King arena or whatever. Kinda funny but terrible. Although i did buy all 3 Burger King games...
pd771's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:26
pd771
The advertising may not make the game cheaper, but it supplements production costs. Do you think MGS4 would have been $60 without in-game ads? It porbably cost double to triple what the average $60 game cost to produce.
dephect's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:29
dephect
All is null and void, Coke slays Pepsi... how dare you Jim. How dare you.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:30
Timmeh
Advertising fucking sucks. When the shameless whore developers that pimp their game out to ad agencies start passing on some benefit to the consumer they can go fuck themselves. I don't buy anything that's going to show me Intel Core 2 Duo ads or Coca Cola ads on billboards in the year 3000.

And don't give me that 'rising cost of development' horseshit, we fucking pay through the nose for gaming and the industry profits go up and up every year.
nevelator's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:38
nevelator
Once the advertising is passive (like Burnout paradise, PES2008 etc.) I am fine with it. However if it gets to pop ups and splash screens then that is taking it too far IMO.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:39
wardrox
"82 percent felt games were just as enjoyable with ads as without"

no shit.

Now get your money grabbing hand out my fucking games.
Aurvant's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:43
Aurvant
I like the advertising. Viva la Capitalism and all that wonderful stuff.

As for people complaining about Snakes iPod. Do you abhor Apple products so much that you dont want a little product placement in your games? Did you scream in horror at Hal and Meryl's Macbook Pros'?

I mean, if a developer/publisher strikes a deal with a sponsor in order to rake in some extra dough via marketing then more power to them. That's the beauty of the free-market. You can deal with anyone, just about, to get your product advertised via all types of media.

Whether it be games, movies, or TV. Advertisements are, ya know, sorta a good thing.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:46
Excel-2011
In my opinion well-placed ads in such reality-based games like racing or sports games can actually enhance the experience. They do have their place in games. I don't play a lot of games where this is an issue so I wouldn't know about it, but I would hate to see it anywhere it wouldn't logically make sense to appear.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:51
MechaMonkey
They're paying for games to be made with these ads. Developes and publishers gotta eat too.
nmezib's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:53
nmezib
I'm all for ads as long as they make sense within the game. they in fact make it feel more real to me, especially racing games... what would Need For Speed or Race Driver: GRID be without major real-life sponsors? Good racing games still, sure, but not as immersive as they could have been. Same went for Rainbow Six: Vegas. when I see billboards for recent movies (or movies to come out soon) while hinting terrorists in Sin City it really hits the spot, because the setting is in the real world, in the present. And in the present real world Vegas, you'll see stuff like that.

What people including myself have a problem with concerning in-game advertisements is when the shit gets in the way, or when it makes no sense. For example, ads in loading screens are annoying. Stop it. even though loading screens are boring and could use a minigame (you can thank Namco's patent office for the lack of those), I still don't want to see a fucking commercial. Also, if I'm playing a futuristic hover racer/space shooter/post apocalyptic adventure game set in the year 2542, I don't want to see an ad for fucking Cheetos. No. Fail. This isn't the place for that.

When done right, ads could really add (pun intended, no apologies) something to the game, but when done shittily (which is the cause of much gamer grief), they can really detract from and disturb the setting.
SysiphusRock's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 09:56
SysiphusRock
"They're paying for games to be made with these ads. Developes and publishers gotta eat too."


I guess all those 20 years without major advertising backing put Shigeru Miyamoto in the poor house huh? :) I keed.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 10:04
psycho terror2
@Aurvantoid

while you are correct in assuming i abhor apple products, i don't care too much about macbbok pros. i might wince a little when i see em, but at least it makes some sense - the scene calls for a laptop to be present, so if it happens to be branded then so be it.

my problem is that snake shouldn't have a fucking mp3 player in the first place.
LadyLucifer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 10:10
LadyLucifer
P.S. Coke = better than Pepsi.
CaptainApocalypse's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 10:11
CaptainApocalypse
In game ads take me out of the experience. For example, when I saw the "Shoot 'Em Up" billboard in Crackdown, it pulled me back to reality a little bit. DO NOT WANT. It won't stop until there are Coke® brand Plasmids that promise to "Destroy your enemies with a blast of refreshing Coke® flavor!"
BulletTrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 10:16
BulletTrain
If it takes advertising dollars to offset development costs, then thats what it takes.

Passive ads that are in context are fine; Society is used to being bombarded with them. But the very second that it creeps into the gameplay or story, I'm out.

The iPod in MGS4 sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
glandseck's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 10:41
glandseck
The only place it has bothered me up to here would be the xbox dashboard.

I don't like my console advertising at me when I bought the damn thing.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 11:00
Demtor
If a game is going to be dependent on immersion for enjoyment of the experience, I'm confident the developers will make the right decisions to achieve that goal. Besides, games that engrossing are a dwindling breed.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 11:01
loki d20
Don't really care about setting/storyline appropriate in-game ad placement. As long as it doesn't detract from the storyline and gameplay, I'm fine.

I do agree with hating the advertisements on the 360.
Peteru's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 11:09
Peteru
Don't mind if that's appropraite. No problem if there was coca-cola in place of nuka-cola. Or if there're billboards/ads in game that advertise real stuff in a manner now you get billboards with non-existant goods. However, a quest to "obtain delcious, refreshing coca-cola", pop-ups, ads in GUI etc are a no go.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 11:13
vexed alex
I don't mind a bit of product placement in my games as long as it's done appropriately. Not line in Metal Gear where I found a fucking iPod song in an underground tunnel. That shit was fucking cheesy and ridiculous. If it was just a Mac laying around here and there like in the codec conversations, I really wouldn't mind.
iwontusemyname's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 11:20
iwontusemyname
why the hell didn't they use pepsi as the soda in metal gear solid 4? missed opportunity, kojima.


i'd buy that for a dollar!
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 11:21
Anus Mcphanus
I have no beef with ads as long as they aren't obviously just stuck in your face. A billboard here and there, or a mac when someone uses a computer or a samsung phone when they are making calls is fine by me.
Brad Nicholson's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 11:25
Brad Nicholson
I wrote a blog post with my additional thoughts.

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Brad+Nicholson/mgs-4-and-apple-sitting-in-a-tree-91015.phtml
CALkulon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 11:35
CALkulon
I don't mind advertising, so long as it has its place in the game. I saw a fairly recent example, in a war game (Medal of Honor?) where the player has to go through an abandoned Phillips factory somewhere. That, by my reckoning, is totally fine. Makes perfect sense, and if anything it adds something to the game as we can relate to it. However, I'd be pissed if the soldiers had to drink Pepsi to recover health, nothing else. Or some bullshit like that.

I don't understand how fighting through an abandoned Phillips factory could make you want to buy a Phillips TV though.

Another example of both is Burnout Paradise, I liked the billboards dotted around the place - it felt very Americanised, and make perfect sense. I didn't like the vans with the logos splattered all over the side though, they didn't sit right as you don't see many, if any, of them going around in real life. If it was a Sky TV van or something then that'd be fine, as it would fit right in. And give me a chance to ram them off the road.
Schmo0zle's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 11:40
Schmo0zle
This is not the same as "We'd like ads strewn across absolutely everything." I remember you, Counterstrike.

I don't mind ads at, say...A loading screen. Or perhaps on a billboard in a modern-day setting in a city. That's fine.

But if I see Kratos with the Blades of Pepsi or Gordon Freeman with the KFC-gun, I am just going to lose it.

Ads in games cannot be done like ads in other places. They can't be annoying and invasive. They have to be well-done.

And if it'll drop the price of games $10 or something, bring them on.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 12:12
king3vbo
MUST

BUY

PEPSI
garrfunkel's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 12:15
garrfunkel
I think thats the general feeling with most gamers that ads that arent intrusive or too in your face are ok. I just dont want this to escalate into something completely ridiculous where ads are seen everywhere in games.
braulio09's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 12:17
braulio09
They're fine by me. They make me feel like games have risen to another level. They've become so widely accepted companies will now put money into advertising on them.

Plus, who cares about a Mountain Dew ad when you're shooting the shit out of some 13 year-old.
Kotua's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 12:27
Kotua
When I was in the helicopter in Rainbow Six: Vegas, I could see some huge ads for Axe. Considering that they were bigger than other buildings, it seemed a bit off.

On the other hand though, when I was in various outdoor places and inside others, there were various ads for movies and the like, and it did make sense(although I laughed at that saw ad that said "it's a trap")
LarkOhiya's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 13:35
LarkOhiya
if its done right having ads in the game can make it feel more "real" and "engaging" thats not to say that you can take any old ad and just slap it in any game.

if they took real companies and made bioshock-esc ads and put them in bioshock it still would be cool.

IF THEY MADE IT FIT THE THEME.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 13:45
AgentMOO
Pepsi is no match for the RICH CHOCOLATY TASTE OF OVALTINE!
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 13:55
Sharpless
As long as the advertising fits within the context of the game, I have no problem with it. If Fable 2 has Toyota ads in it, I'll be pissed. If the next Tom Clancy game has a Pepsi billboard, I'm okay with it.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2008 14:39
RAB
root-beer

all types

=better than any other beverage











except real-beer
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