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Uncharted 2 wasn't "original" as such, so when you put it through blatant copying it just comes off even worse.
1 new idea a year? Is he fucking stupid? There are hundreds of games each year and at least 1/4th of them is original...While I truthfully just made that up, my point still stands. We're not so saturated that every single game is the same thing.
After watch that trailer and the NOVA 2 trailer, I don't know if I agree with their statement fully. Its one thing to copy a few ideas and gameplay elements, but to downright copy a game is bullcrap. I don't think saints row deserved a pass. It was enjoyable but they literally said " let's take everything in GTA and copy it". The only difference was the story wasn't as serious.
You can have an unoriginal idea without copying something to the letter.
It's not the same thing, Gameloft.
It's not the same thing, Gameloft.
seems like youre playing pretty nice with gameloft here. theyre idea of game development is taking a thesaurus to any popular franchise. tough to listen to these guys about originality.
@Masterballs that's not really the point. Uncharted wasn't super original, but it executes damn near perfectly. Its a great game. Can you find another game before Uncharted where it literally feels just like Uncharted. Tomb Raider get compared all the time, but go back and play them and they are nothing alike. Gameloft literally takes popular IPs like Halo and Uncharted and copy them well enough so ppl can see that there a ripoff, but not get sued.
Darksiders is different though. War is fairly unique, and the art was done by Joe M., I believe, which was original. It may borrow different "elements" from various games like God of War, Zelda, and Portal, but the CORE game is very "new".
Shadow Guardian is a fucking copy and paste. Also, what Masterballs said - when Uncharted 2 wasn't the most original concept already (despite being a brilliant game), copying it is pretty bad.
Shadow Guardian is a fucking copy and paste. Also, what Masterballs said - when Uncharted 2 wasn't the most original concept already (despite being a brilliant game), copying it is pretty bad.
What fun. But why have we been hearing so much from Gameloft lately. It's purpose is to copy games, not take moral high ground.
That is the same guy that complained a couple days ago about how EA was pushing other publishers around by charging less, and that resented their "innovation"? I call that bullshit.
Jim, don't compare Saints Row or Darksiders to Gameloft's games. Darksiders put a new twist to a tried formula (which is already getting too old) by making it feel dark and fresh, and outperformed Nintendo in many ways. Shadow Guardian, on the other hand, only needs Nolan North (and a lot of polish) to be an Uncharted game on mobiles.
Jim, don't compare Saints Row or Darksiders to Gameloft's games. Darksiders put a new twist to a tried formula (which is already getting too old) by making it feel dark and fresh, and outperformed Nintendo in many ways. Shadow Guardian, on the other hand, only needs Nolan North (and a lot of polish) to be an Uncharted game on mobiles.
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Um, Uncharted does feel a good bit like the most recent Tomb Raider games. At least, the first Uncharted does, which is the only one I've completely played through so far. It's not a direct clone, and it has a much greater emphasis on shooting than action, but there's A LOT of Tomb Raider and Prince of Persia in there.
Um, Uncharted does feel a good bit like the most recent Tomb Raider games. At least, the first Uncharted does, which is the only one I've completely played through so far. It's not a direct clone, and it has a much greater emphasis on shooting than action, but there's A LOT of Tomb Raider and Prince of Persia in there.
Oh, and I meant a much greater emphasis on shooting than PUZZLES, not action. Okay, I'll stop cluttering the comments, now.
So obnoxious when a company cites a problem for an excuse for their own problem.
Basically: "It's OK that we copy games, because most ideas are unoriginal."
A company NOT full of douche bags would say "Most ideas are unoriginal, so we've made it an initiative to try and be as original as possible."
Two wrongs don't make a right, guys.
It's also erroneous to assume trying something new and failing is worse than copying someone well, which is what's implied when he says "f a type of game is not available, then you should make it. The damaging thing is if you do a bad expression of a good idea."
Everyone in the game industry with the last name Guillemot is full of shit.
Basically: "It's OK that we copy games, because most ideas are unoriginal."
A company NOT full of douche bags would say "Most ideas are unoriginal, so we've made it an initiative to try and be as original as possible."
Two wrongs don't make a right, guys.
It's also erroneous to assume trying something new and failing is worse than copying someone well, which is what's implied when he says "f a type of game is not available, then you should make it. The damaging thing is if you do a bad expression of a good idea."
Everyone in the game industry with the last name Guillemot is full of shit.
The mobile games market is full of new ideas, a lot more than any other game market. And I am talking about TRUE new ideas here, not "lets make an Uncharted game, but give the protagonist a backpack... whoa, innovation!!!"
Copying is okay if the product was great, which Darksiders and Saints Row very much are. Most of the Gameloft catalogue? Update your iPhone shit, you can totally save your crap. Like your Final Fantasy ripoff, c'mon put some more effort into and I might consider trying it.
Ideas for games will always pull from previous works. Uncharted is Tomb Raider mixed with Indiana Jones, and adds its own stuff on top of that. Besides, stealing ideas isn't wrong. "Good artists borrow, great artists steal".
"Game industry has one new idea a year... Trust me, we've counted."
"Game industry has one new idea a year... None of them from GameLoft, of course."
"Game industry has one new idea a year... And we intend to mimic ever single one."
"Game industry has one new idea a year... None of them from GameLoft, of course."
"Game industry has one new idea a year... And we intend to mimic ever single one."
Gameloft is part of the video games industry, yet he is basically criticising himself for there not being enough original ideas. Right...
I personally think that although that Gameloft may be copying big budget PS3, Xbox and Wii games, on the iPhone games like that are actually pretty different, the majority of Apps being extremely casual, so although Gameloft might be copying console games, they are not copying most any other game on the App Store. I know it doesn't really make them (Gameloft) much better, but at least they're bringing something relatively new to the iPhone market.
"The damaging thing is if you do a bad expression of a good idea."
Hasn't this been the argument every company has used to stay away from new IPs for years now?
/slowclap
Now Gamelofts in the game of "stealing" arguments too.
Hasn't this been the argument every company has used to stay away from new IPs for years now?
/slowclap
Now Gamelofts in the game of "stealing" arguments too.
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