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Seeing as I've only played Xenogears and didn't finish it but loved every second of it I have to throw my vote that way.
CaffeineKnight's vote = Xenogears (PS1)
Also, Happy Birthday you robot cock suckers.
CaffeineKnight's vote = Xenogears (PS1)
Also, Happy Birthday you robot cock suckers.
Its tough for me; I'll always have fonder memories of Episode 1, but in gameplay Episode 3 is the best of the series.
P.S., I'm in the minority, but I've always felt that the Xenosaga games are WAY better than Xenogears.
P.S., I'm in the minority, but I've always felt that the Xenosaga games are WAY better than Xenogears.
Ep. 1 was the only good Xenosaga game.
Pretty sure Xenoblade will be better than all of them, seeing as Monolith Soft isn't with Namco anymore. I blame Namco for how directionless the series became as of Ep. 2. I didn't want to finish that game and didn't give shit what came after Ep. 2, that's how bad Ep. 2 was.
Pretty sure Xenoblade will be better than all of them, seeing as Monolith Soft isn't with Namco anymore. I blame Namco for how directionless the series became as of Ep. 2. I didn't want to finish that game and didn't give shit what came after Ep. 2, that's how bad Ep. 2 was.
I own Xenogears 1 and 2 and haven't played more than twenty minutes of the first game. In other words as soon as the cutscene ended I stopped playing.
I'm going 1 just because I can.
I'm going 1 just because I can.
Between Xenosaga 1 and 3 lies a tough choice but I'm going to have to give it to 1 because of a mix of nostalgia and being the game that started one of my favorite series. Its unfortunate that it got cut from 6 games to only 3.
As for the bonus question it's a certainty that xenosaga 2 will win this. Thae game was severly broken and frankly a chore to get through. The battle system was horrible and the story wasn't good enough for the series. Although i'm sure it would have made more sense if the series fleshed out the way it was supposed to but out the 3 it is a black sheep. no amount of junior(rubedo) and albedo can make up for that.
As for the bonus question it's a certainty that xenosaga 2 will win this. Thae game was severly broken and frankly a chore to get through. The battle system was horrible and the story wasn't good enough for the series. Although i'm sure it would have made more sense if the series fleshed out the way it was supposed to but out the 3 it is a black sheep. no amount of junior(rubedo) and albedo can make up for that.
Xenosaga 1 is by far (though sadly) the best of the series. Everything about it was so fantastic, the story, the battle system, the action cutscenes, everything.
By far the worst then is Xenosaga 2, because they took everything that made the first so fantastic and changed it to try to appeal to a different audience, an audience that didn't support the first game, and would never support the series. Kos-Mos was no longer the cute yet frightening robot being she was in the first, and instead they tried to make her too human. Shion was one of the best characters in the first game and they replaced her cute nerdiness, with a taller, hotter, and sleeker model with a completley differnt voice actress for a character that didn't need a new one. Worse, they got rid of the voice actor for my favorite character from the first game, Chaos, and tried to make him into something else. The voice actor in the original nailed the character and I have no idea why he was replaced. It's baffling.
By far the worst then is Xenosaga 2, because they took everything that made the first so fantastic and changed it to try to appeal to a different audience, an audience that didn't support the first game, and would never support the series. Kos-Mos was no longer the cute yet frightening robot being she was in the first, and instead they tried to make her too human. Shion was one of the best characters in the first game and they replaced her cute nerdiness, with a taller, hotter, and sleeker model with a completley differnt voice actress for a character that didn't need a new one. Worse, they got rid of the voice actor for my favorite character from the first game, Chaos, and tried to make him into something else. The voice actor in the original nailed the character and I have no idea why he was replaced. It's baffling.
3 had the better battle system but 1 was the better overall game for me.
And 2 was an absolute train wreck. I forced myself to finish it only because 3 was coming out in a week.
And 2 was an absolute train wreck. I forced myself to finish it only because 3 was coming out in a week.
I say Ep. 3 is the best one. It managed to close the series in a way that is both complete and leaves room for more games if they wanted to(which they won't sadly. I have to get my KOS-MOS fix from SRT now.) Oh and it;s the game where they finally nailed the giant robot fights. AND it has the most references to Xenogears.
Also it introduced T-elos. Need more hot killer colored robot chicks in video games.
Also it introduced T-elos. Need more hot killer colored robot chicks in video games.
If Xenogears counts than consider that my vote. The story of that game really wowed me the first time through, and even though the game was technically unfinished and the latter parts of the game were mostly text, the game was still incredibly fun, and I play it from time to time to this day.
Even though I haven't touched it (maybe a bit, but nothing substantial other than walking, if even), I'll cast my lot to Xenosaga EPISODE III.
I would be interested in that XS EP I&II remake for DS, if only to lessen the pain of EPII. Not only did they ruin many of the voices (though you can rationalize that the actors may've been trying to make it work) and weird up the faces (eye-shrinkage syndrome at the forefront), it's just a pain in the ass to play. To do any significant damage is to sit around in a battle until the one enemy's defenses are penetrated, then chaining attacks to kill it before it recovers. And that's just the regular battles! With bosses, one false step in your intricate chain not only nixes your chances to 'pummel' the boss, but can screw up your own defenses. In my save file, I am stuck in a hallway battle against four hard-hitting grunts. I'd pretty much have to start over, figuring which abilities would allow me to get more jabs in than anything else can to me.
I would be interested in that XS EP I&II remake for DS, if only to lessen the pain of EPII. Not only did they ruin many of the voices (though you can rationalize that the actors may've been trying to make it work) and weird up the faces (eye-shrinkage syndrome at the forefront), it's just a pain in the ass to play. To do any significant damage is to sit around in a battle until the one enemy's defenses are penetrated, then chaining attacks to kill it before it recovers. And that's just the regular battles! With bosses, one false step in your intricate chain not only nixes your chances to 'pummel' the boss, but can screw up your own defenses. In my save file, I am stuck in a hallway battle against four hard-hitting grunts. I'd pretty much have to start over, figuring which abilities would allow me to get more jabs in than anything else can to me.
Can I vote for Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier? That's the only game I've played with KOS-MOS in it. I'm a bad person.
I got Episode 1 for two bucks awhile ago. I like it, but having save points during cutscenes is just sad. People think Metal Gear Solid is bad...
Xenogears is by my personal favourite in the series, although I love them all almost equally.
Bonus: except for episode 2. That one gets much less love.
Bonus: except for episode 2. That one gets much less love.
Assuming Xenogears is even an option, it's by faaaaar the best. Xenosaga EP 1 started off in the right direction but went way way downhill with each subsequent entry. Worst = Ep 2.
XENOGEARS(PS1), but cutoff the beginning of the second disc, too much history lines to read.
Was one of the best battle modes that i played over the 20 years of gaming and I miss it.
Was one of the best battle modes that i played over the 20 years of gaming and I miss it.
Xenogears is my favourite RPG ever. I couldn't stand Xenosaga and will not touch the rest, for fucks sake i don't need 30minute cut scenes.
Wait...I loved Xenogears and the Xenosaga series...you're bitching about 30 minute cutscenes when there were times in Xenogears where you had slow-scrolling text-intensive cutscenes that could last in upwards of an hour or even ninety minutes before prompting you WITH A SAVE POINT FOR THE TEXT YOU READ? I remember being near the end of the game and having to make sure I only played it on a day off out of fear that I might be late for work by having to sit through one long unskippable scene too many.
Come on, at least hate a game because it's bad. Xenosaga is definitely guilty of some ridiculously long scenes, but Xenogears was the father of it, just with text.
Come on, at least hate a game because it's bad. Xenosaga is definitely guilty of some ridiculously long scenes, but Xenogears was the father of it, just with text.
I have played all 4 games (shame on you who haven't played gears) and my vote hands down, is Xenogears (actually my favorite game period). it had the best story, cast, and most intriguing world.
if the vote has to be a xenosaga game then i would vote for 1. 1 set the series up for a great story with plenty of mystery as to what may have been going on. and 1 had a really serious dark undertone to it (that contrasted well with its chibi characters) that the sequels just seemed to lose in favor of inane plot twists. 2..... well lets not talk about 2. 3 was a fun game. i enjoyed playing it very much and all the cameos made me smile like i got an inside joke no one else did. unfortunately i just didn't care for how they wrapped up the story. it felt like they tried to shoehorn in too much stuff in the last minute and it just got kinda ridiculous. in the end i feel 3 lost the grand vision and squandered the setup delivered by 1.
if the vote has to be a xenosaga game then i would vote for 1. 1 set the series up for a great story with plenty of mystery as to what may have been going on. and 1 had a really serious dark undertone to it (that contrasted well with its chibi characters) that the sequels just seemed to lose in favor of inane plot twists. 2..... well lets not talk about 2. 3 was a fun game. i enjoyed playing it very much and all the cameos made me smile like i got an inside joke no one else did. unfortunately i just didn't care for how they wrapped up the story. it felt like they tried to shoehorn in too much stuff in the last minute and it just got kinda ridiculous. in the end i feel 3 lost the grand vision and squandered the setup delivered by 1.
Does Xenogears count? If so that one is definitely the best. I lost a summer to that gigantic game, and didn't even notice. The plot was just so engaging and cool shit never stopped happening. Even at 70+ hours I wanted more.
If not I vote for XenoSaga Ep 1 because it's the only Saga one I played. Not nearly as good as Gears though imho.
If not I vote for XenoSaga Ep 1 because it's the only Saga one I played. Not nearly as good as Gears though imho.
I would have to say Episode 3. I'm quite fond of 1 and it had a very multi-tiered approach to character development. 2 was disappointing, and very Junior heavy, but gave great insight into the characters it developed. 3 was the easiest battle-wise, though, which made it more fun, and while it concentrated mostly on Shion, the story it told was AMAZING. And depressing.
If your counting Xenogears in your poll then I vote for that. If not Episode III will get my vote. In all honesty though, Xenogears really is the stand-out in the series. Hell a lot of people consider it to be there personal greatest RPG of all time. And believe me none of that I think can be attributed to nostalgia. I've played Xenogears upwards of 6 times now. The story is what makes this game relevant even today. Theres just something about the world, characters, and mythos in this game that just scratch a certain itch for me.
Technically, Xenogears should be included and would win outright, but since they severed ties with it around ep2, out of the trilogy, I would say that I enjoyed Xenosaga episode 1 the best, closely followed by Ep 3. Ep 3 did a really good job with the story and tying loose ends up but the battle system was too traditional. I liked how Ep 1 tried to be Xenogears yet not.
Episode 2 was easily the worst with a repetitive and frankly boring battle system and ugly character designs and I don't think you'll get any arguments about that from anyone. In fact, does anyone like Ep 2? Anyone at all???
Episode 2 was easily the worst with a repetitive and frankly boring battle system and ugly character designs and I don't think you'll get any arguments about that from anyone. In fact, does anyone like Ep 2? Anyone at all???
I second what EggmaniMN says. Xenosaga III was most refined in its battle system and narrative. Although the purists will vehemently object, I believe that its refinement makes it a better product than even the clunky Xenogears was for its time. Did I even mention the music?! It has a very good battle theme! Even better than FFX or XII!
For me, the best Xenosaga game was EPISODE I: Der Wille zur Macht. The battle system was both fun and referencial to Xenogears, the cutscenes were quite cinematic, and I loved it when that little dash of nerd moe was thrown in when Shion would speak to her UMN bunny (the UMN music was groovy, too). The overall atmodphere of the game made you want to play it more, and the ending was tear-jerking!
EPISODE II nearly killed the series for me, which is why I think (*cough*KNOW!*cough*) it's the worst in the series. It totally changed the graphical style to something all too sterile, the battle system was no fun anymore, and KOS-MOS was seriously underpowered. The story was more tasteless than and unsalted top cracker, too. I just played it through because I didn't want to have a nice chunk of (unflavored) story to be totally in the dark about.
EPISODE II nearly killed the series for me, which is why I think (*cough*KNOW!*cough*) it's the worst in the series. It totally changed the graphical style to something all too sterile, the battle system was no fun anymore, and KOS-MOS was seriously underpowered. The story was more tasteless than and unsalted top cracker, too. I just played it through because I didn't want to have a nice chunk of (unflavored) story to be totally in the dark about.
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