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In the last debate we got one step closer to Dtoid's March Madness tournament that will run for several months. Our quest to find the best RPGs for our competition led us to the Breath of Fire series and the response we got was both diverse and passionate. In the end one clear winner was left breathing as the winner who will go on to represent its series in the brackets, but all of the games received a good amount of votes. Here are the results:
- Breath of Fire III (38 votes) -- Winner!
- Breath of Fire II (22 votes)
- Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (13 votes)
- Breath of Fire IV (11 votes)
- Breath of Fire I (8 votes)
This week is the same as last week, except now you're all discussing which Xenosaga game was the best out of the entire series. Which one game is so good that it deserves a spot in the tournament to fight on behalf of all the others that don't make the cut?
What Xenosaga game should make it to the tournament brackets and why? What sets it apart from every other game in its series? Sell me on the idea! Get me stoked to see it compete in the tournament! Give it some serious thought, share your reasoning with all of us, and then check back next week to see how your game did!
Bonus Question: Which game in the series is your least favorite? Why?
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CaffeineKnight's vote = Xenogears (PS1)
Also, Happy Birthday you robot cock suckers.
Although it's kind of unfair to have a game debate through a series that's so connected. I know I wouldn't try to pull apart Digital Devil Saga and ask which one of those is better 2 so maybe I should rethink my stance on even picking between the XS games.
P.S., I'm in the minority, but I've always felt that the Xenosaga games are WAY better than Xenogears.
Pretty sure Xenoblade will be better than all of them, seeing as Monolith Soft isn't with Namco anymore. I blame Namco for how directionless the series became as of Ep. 2. I didn't want to finish that game and didn't give shit what came after Ep. 2, that's how bad Ep. 2 was.
I'm going 1 just because I can.
As for the bonus question it's a certainty that xenosaga 2 will win this. Thae game was severly broken and frankly a chore to get through. The battle system was horrible and the story wasn't good enough for the series. Although i'm sure it would have made more sense if the series fleshed out the way it was supposed to but out the 3 it is a black sheep. no amount of junior(rubedo) and albedo can make up for that.
By far the worst then is Xenosaga 2, because they took everything that made the first so fantastic and changed it to try to appeal to a different audience, an audience that didn't support the first game, and would never support the series. Kos-Mos was no longer the cute yet frightening robot being she was in the first, and instead they tried to make her too human. Shion was one of the best characters in the first game and they replaced her cute nerdiness, with a taller, hotter, and sleeker model with a completley differnt voice actress for a character that didn't need a new one. Worse, they got rid of the voice actor for my favorite character from the first game, Chaos, and tried to make him into something else. The voice actor in the original nailed the character and I have no idea why he was replaced. It's baffling.
And 2 was an absolute train wreck. I forced myself to finish it only because 3 was coming out in a week.
Also it introduced T-elos. Need more hot killer colored robot chicks in video games.
I would be interested in that XS EP I&II remake for DS, if only to lessen the pain of EPII. Not only did they ruin many of the voices (though you can rationalize that the actors may've been trying to make it work) and weird up the faces (eye-shrinkage syndrome at the forefront), it's just a pain in the ass to play. To do any significant damage is to sit around in a battle until the one enemy's defenses are penetrated, then chaining attacks to kill it before it recovers. And that's just the regular battles! With bosses, one false step in your intricate chain not only nixes your chances to 'pummel' the boss, but can screw up your own defenses. In my save file, I am stuck in a hallway battle against four hard-hitting grunts. I'd pretty much have to start over, figuring which abilities would allow me to get more jabs in than anything else can to me.
Bonus: except for episode 2. That one gets much less love.
didn't finish 2 and 3 still wrapped >.>
Was one of the best battle modes that i played over the 20 years of gaming and I miss it.
Come on, at least hate a game because it's bad. Xenosaga is definitely guilty of some ridiculously long scenes, but Xenogears was the father of it, just with text.
if the vote has to be a xenosaga game then i would vote for 1. 1 set the series up for a great story with plenty of mystery as to what may have been going on. and 1 had a really serious dark undertone to it (that contrasted well with its chibi characters) that the sequels just seemed to lose in favor of inane plot twists. 2..... well lets not talk about 2. 3 was a fun game. i enjoyed playing it very much and all the cameos made me smile like i got an inside joke no one else did. unfortunately i just didn't care for how they wrapped up the story. it felt like they tried to shoehorn in too much stuff in the last minute and it just got kinda ridiculous. in the end i feel 3 lost the grand vision and squandered the setup delivered by 1.
If not I vote for XenoSaga Ep 1 because it's the only Saga one I played. Not nearly as good as Gears though imho.
Episode 2 was easily the worst with a repetitive and frankly boring battle system and ugly character designs and I don't think you'll get any arguments about that from anyone. In fact, does anyone like Ep 2? Anyone at all???
However, if I have to choose a Xenosaga game i choose Xenosaga 3.
EPISODE II nearly killed the series for me, which is why I think (*cough*KNOW!*cough*) it's the worst in the series. It totally changed the graphical style to something all too sterile, the battle system was no fun anymore, and KOS-MOS was seriously underpowered. The story was more tasteless than and unsalted top cracker, too. I just played it through because I didn't want to have a nice chunk of (unflavored) story to be totally in the dark about.