10:30 PM on 02.23.2010
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Last week we began the process of gathering the final contestants for the many-month-long RPG debate to the death! Before moving on this week with Suikoden, let's see which game from the Tales RPG saga made the cut and will enter the tournament fighting for its series. Here are the results:
- Tales of Symphonia (30 votes) -- Winner!!!
- Tales of Vesperia (18 votes)
- Tales of Phantasia (7 votes)
- Tales of Destiny 2 (5 votes)
- Tales of Destiny (4 votes)
- Tales of the Abyss (4 votes)
- Tales of Eternia (4 votes)
- Tales of Rebirth (1 vote)
This week is the same as last week, except now you're all discussing which Suikoden game was the best out of the entire series. Which one game is so good that it deserves a spot in the tournament to fight in behalf of all the others that don't make the cut?
What Suikoden game should make it to the tournament brackets and why? What sets it apart from every other game in its series? Sell me on the idea! Get me stoked to see it compete in the tournament! Give it some serious thought, share your reasoning with all of us, and then check back next week to see how your game did!
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Contest:
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I recommend any vote not placing II in the top spot be rendered invalid.
S2 had the most personal conflict, with the protagonist and his best friend, Jowy Atreides, finding themselves on different sides in a bitter war. It threw a hell of a lot of curves at you, with all the betrayals and out-right villainy. It also had one of the best antagonists in gaming, Luca Blight, who made villagers act like pigs in return for their lives, then killed them anyway. Oh, and don't forget the saga of Neclord, Viktor, and the hilariously awesome Star Dragon Sword.
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But I did borrow it. And from what I played, I loved every second of it. The art was beautiful, the battles were fun, and Luca Blight is the most delightful psychopath in a game since Ryuji Yamazaki.
I do have the original Suikoden and I also loved it to pieces. Then, I tried playing IV... and it bored me to tears. Lost interest in trying the rest of the series because of four.
The story itself is emotionally the most powerful of the series, not to mention some of the best Suikoden characters make appearances in this game (Even though some cross over to other games as well). I just see this game as the pinacle of the general "Water Margin" formula used in all 5 games (but especially in 1, 2, and 5).
Oh, and even the "bad" endings (Out of the 5-6 you can get) still pull at my heartstrings just a little bit.
On an unrelated note - Tales of Symphonia won the Tales of vote? Wow. It's definitely not the worst, but it's so far from the best that it's mind numbing.
Jowy Atreides is one of the best characters in videogames EVAR, not to mention Luca Blight, hail to the mad prince!
And the ability to load ur data from suikoden I makes it even better.
I dunno why they havent released it yet for the PSN
Gremio!
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3. 5
3 was okay, 4 was abyssmal, 5 was decent.
1) I love Suikoden 5
2) Those Rock/Paper/Scissors battles are fucking awesome
3) I've never played Suikoden 2
The best RPG on the first playstation...
@ Jackyson
I perfer WRPGs, but the first two Suikoden games had moral choices that impacted the plot......plus Suikoden II edges out Planescape Torment for RPG of 1999. Suikoden II is a top tier JRPG.
3 is an amazing game! not sure why there is so much hate on it. I still play that game
the rest have been mediocre
I enjoy Tres, but Dos is the better game.
2, Tierkreis, 1, 5, 4, 3.
2 was great
1 was the best RPG of all time
hardly......Suikoden I was a nice start, but it is far too cliched and ages worse than 2d SNES RPGs.
Suikoden II however, subverts many JRPG cliches, like the youth of the heroes not being glorified, but the fact that they are fighting, a moral outrage. It was also not a traditional good vs evil story, even with one of the nastiest villains in video games, the true conflict wa sbetween two friends caught on opposite sides of a war. The first game was a traditional rebels vs empire story, the second wasn't and many antagonists could be considered "good".
I vote for II. III has its charms. They are fairly significant charms. It's also possibly the most mind-numbing game in existence. The first was generic, the less said about IV and V the better (and yes, I played them. I wish I hadn't).
So, yeah, 2 wins. Is this even necessary? I mean last time I checked, 2 was like $150 on ebay. Really hoping it gets some PSN love soon. And on the topic of Konami, make a Castlevania compilation already, jerks.
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So I vote for 1, and for heaven's sake Sony and Konami, put 2 on PSN!
And Suikoden II will win; this debate is silly.
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5 comes in second for me
It also had great antagonists (Luca!) and multiple endings- if you get all the characters and do something special during the final battle you get one of the most satisfying endings in a game ever, imho.
Totally worth the $80 it cost me on ebay!