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Game Debate to the Death! Puzzle Quest VS Henry Hatsworth photo

Last week was one of the closest debates we've ever had. For the first fifty to sixty comments there was a steady tie as both games refused to back down. Eventually one game's momentum brought home a win, but just barely. Here are the results:

  • Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (51 votes) -- Winner!
  • Professor Layton and the Curious Village (41 votes) -- Objection!

It's interesting that half the votes for each side were cast with obvious indecisiveness, so both games should be proud of their performances. This week we move on to what will most likely be another nail-biter photo finish. This showdown was brought up numerous times a few weeks ago when I asked for DS suggestions, so let the (puzzle) games begin!

Which game do you think is better, and why? Give it some serious thought, get some DS friends to share their opinions as well, and check back next week for the winner.

Bonus Question: What was one thing you didn't like about the game you voted for?


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Ignus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:03
Ignus
Puzzle Quest!!!!!!
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:11
Harris Hatsworth
My account pretty much gives away which I'll vote for. Puzzle Quest gets broken as hell late in the game. I can't remember what class I was but after I got about half way through the game I could just rub my stylus randomly across the screen and just wait for my opponent to stop existing.

Henry Hatsworth.
StMcDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:13
StMcDuck
I worked out the math one day that I've spent more time playing Puzzle Quest than I have picking up women.
Take that as you may.
Ratsor's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:13
Ratsor
Started playing Henry Hatsworth on friday and it took the weekend away from me. Give me my weekend back. I vote for Henry Hatsworth
grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:14
grafkhun
I found Puzzle Quest to be somewhat boring actually, never got into the whole bejeweled gameplay of it, although the RPG side was kind of cool. I felt like evry victory was due by luck and even when I try to plan out a chain of reactions it always fell apart by some enemy spell or crap. Henry Hatsworth is just downright fun and the puzlle side never gets in the way of the core platforming.

Vote: Henry Hatsworth and the Puzzling Adventure

Bonus: some cheap tricks here and there in the game, other than that, it's grand.
Jack Maverick's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:23
Jack Maverick
Puzzle Quest did put a different spin on the puzzle genre but it still seemed like it was missing something. Henry Hatsworth though, it managed to mesh platforming action and puzzle thinking perfectly. I may be a tad biased since platformers are one of my favorite genres, and Henry Hatsworth put a twist on this to make me know that good and unique platforming games can exist to this day.

So I have to go with Henry Hatsworth.

And to answer your bonus question, I hate how ridiculously easy the first two worlds are, then you are immediately flooded with enemies by world 3 and later. How unprepared I was.
Edco's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:25
Edco
This is really really tough.

I put an insane amount of time in Puzzle Quest and give props to any game that can keep me coming back with it's addictive qualities. Mixing puzzling and RPGing is a pretty sweet deal.

But I've been Playing Hatsworth for a week straight now, practically non-stop. The personality just -shines- throughout this game. The added nastiness of managing both a puzzle game and a platformer that I'd gladly play on its own, well, it tips the hat!

Vote: Henry Hatsworth!
ArcticFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:30
ArcticFox
PUZZLE QUEST: CHALLENGE OF THE WARLORDS!

Bonus question: This game was amazing, but it gave us Galactrix, which was a letdown of the highest intensity. Basically the glory of the first game caused me to buy a shitty game. But the original is still amazing.
Pacopaco's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:33
Pacopaco
Hatsworth.

Puzzle Quest was fun as hell but pretty damn broken and glitchy too. Also the dialogue was hilariously awful. If they could make a sequel that fixes all the problems and make it seem like the computer AI isn't rampantly cheating, it'd get my vote and money.
LuntiX's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:39
LuntiX
Hatsworth hands down. It's brings a whole new perspective to Puzzle Game by making it a Platformer with Puzzle Game qualities.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:43
Jonathan Holmes
I've only played it for 15 minutes, but I'm still going with Hatsworth. Puzzle Quest was addicting, but not in a rewarding or interesting way.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 20:52
Monodi
I WANT to vote for Henry Hatsworth but I can't because I still haven't played it. DAMN IT
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 21:01
Harris Hatsworth
To answer the bonus question, I didn't like how quickly the game became unbalanced towards the end. Not that it's ridiculous but it's a relatively smooth transition for the first little while until you fight the third boss, during and after which things get noticeably difficult.
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 21:03
Hamza CTZ Aziz
HATSWORTH!!!!!!!
AxelFury's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 21:06
AxelFury
Hatsworth has become the best DS game I've played this year.

I vote for Hatsworth.
lawlflip's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 21:21
lawlflip
Henry.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 21:38
Chronic Logic
HATSWORTH ALL THE WAY!!!
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 21:41
Hamza CTZ Aziz
What I didn't like is how hard the fucking game gets. Last boss is SOOOO worth it though.
tkyy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 21:48
tkyy
henry hatsworth
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 22:02
whormongr
puzzlequest- I didn't like henry hatsworth
Guagloves's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 23:07
Guagloves
Hatsworth. I could never get into Puzzle Quest.
Mr Kite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2009 23:35
Mr Kite
Wanted to play both these games but sadly as is often the case I never got around to buying them.:(
Benson's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 00:44
Benson
Hatsworth.
Catmurderer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 01:19
Catmurderer
Puzzle Quest. Wizard is the best.
infinitytomorrow's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 01:46
infinitytomorrow
Hmm a good debate. Both games are exceptional but my vote is going to have to go to Hatsworth. Lets weigh it out.

The first thing that drew me to Henry Hatsworth, other than the classy hat, monocle and tea, was the fact that EA of all people decided to do a throwback game to the old school platformers, which I had more than my share of back in the days of the Genesis and Super Nintendo And it had a puzzle twist, which appealed to me even more.

The day I walked into my local Gamestop, I had 30 bucks to blow and it was either that, Puzzle Quest Galactrix, or Moon. Now, Moon was the first eliminated just because of the fact that it was 20 bucks the week earlier (which I'm still kicking myself for). So when it came down to Classy Guy Puzzle Adventure or PQ:Galactrix, it was a very difficult decision. I am a avid PQ fan, owning the DS version of Challenge, so I basically knew what i was getting myself into. But the very idea that this game successfully (judging by what i had read in reviews) combines the values and properties of a puzzle game AND a platformer, which sounded more interesting to me than a mix of RPG and Bejeweled. Sure I could also blow it on New Super Mario or MarioKart or the newest Mega Man Zero game, but I decided to follow my gut and my heart for Hatsworth.

There were some things that I didn't like about Puzzle Quest. Whenever the opponent somehow luckily got the perfect combo chain and could destroy me in one hit afterward was disheartening to say the least. And the amount of grinding I had to do was just frankly not worth it, this coming from a guy whose been through just about all Final Fantasies and Personas. Plus just the seemingly low production quality also furthered that point.

Now don't get me wrong, there are some things about Henry Hatsworth that rub me the wrong way. The staggering difficulty that hits you in the face in world 3 was just mind blowing, but it was a welcome advancement, considering the first 2 worlds were a cakewalk. I also didnt enjoy and never do are the invisible walled sections were you walk into a small portion of platform and get stuck there while a wave of enemies bombard you. It shows poor level design and an all around break in what should be seamless action with small but necessary stops for puzzling.

All around, I though Henry Hatsworth was much more enjoyable. Does it last as long as PQ? No. Does it get its money worth more than PQ? No. But Henry Hatsworth does get my vote for better game because of an overall greater use of the DS's hardware and a much appreciated throwback and fan service to the old school platformer.

TL;DR Henry Hatsworth
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 02:09
Wedge
Hatsworth.

Also I'm amazed Layton even came that close. I guess at least some people can see it's a vastly superior game. Afterall, these are game debates.
awa64's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 02:10
awa64
Vote: Henry Hatsworth.

Because Bejeweled is unfun, slow and chance-based while Tetris Attack is fun, fast-paced, and skill-based.

Bonus: Agh Crippling Difficulty Curve.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 03:41
TheToiletDuck
Vote: Henry Hatsworth

Because as much as i loved PQ on XBLA i found the Ds version difficult to control and i can only play match 3 for so long. Henry Hatsworth mixes it up with some genuinely challening platforming. Also, once you get a few particular spells for PQ you're pretty much unbeatable. Hatsworth is a constant challenge :)
Fusiontr's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 07:19
Fusiontr
Had you asked this question a few weeks back, I would've said Puzzle Quest easily. I became so addicted to that game that my social life was thrown out of the window to play that damn game. The mix of RPG and puzzle was brilliant.

However, I've started REALLY getting into Henry Hatsworth. Like REALLY. The blend of puzzle and platforming works so damn well. The charm of it is so damn good. I love this game

and so, my vote is for Henry Hatsworth!
Madcow's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 08:23
Madcow
Henry Hatsworth!
Tea Time!
SpiralViper's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 08:40
SpiralViper
Henry Hatsworth. Puzzle Quest is addictive as hell but it is nowhere near as awesome all around.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 09:04
Takeshi
Puzzle Quest. Because my whole family loves it.
cannedpasta's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 10:46
cannedpasta
Hatsworth. There is just so much to love about the game. Don't get me wrong, I played the hell out of Puzzle Quest... I still play it to this day, but I've had more FUN with Hatsworth. Puzzle Quest just pisses me off.... lol

PROTIP: You can go to the official site at www.henryhatsworth.com/ and download the game's soundtrack, all free and legal like.
theredpepperofdoom's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 11:15
theredpepperofdoom
Hatsworth FTW. Puzzle Quest kinda bored me, mostly due to the fact that I hate Bejeweled and that game is Bejeweled and an RPG.
Sustenance's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 11:26
Sustenance
Puzzle Quest was fun, but it has too much grinding and tweaking of armor / items / mounts / weaponry. I know some of you love that sort of thing, but it was too much of a numbers game for me, too much like homework. That, and the "match 3" puzzle style incorporates a little too much luck. In fact, there is more skill required in building your character (in PQ) than actually puzzling. That's sort of the "real" game and it's not that interesting, nor is the story.

Henry Hatsworth found a perfect balance between hand / eye skill and the "Tetris Attack"-style puzzling is much more enjoyable and balanced than the "one move and you're dead" stylings of PQ.

My vote would definitely go to Henry Hatsworth. (Even if its fourth-world boss is twenty times easier than its third world boss!)

Both games also have ridiculous difficulty curves, though in opposite directions. I'd rather have a game challenge me to the last boss than let me "pwn" my enemies with spell spam.
Son of BaconSandwhich's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 12:35
Son of BaconSandwhich
Easy one this week- henry hatsworth all the way.
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 16:15
KMCC
Hatswurf.
Doomsday Forte's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 20:37
Doomsday Forte
Layton.

..er, Hatsworth. I loved Puzzle Quest and all, but I loved the combination puzzle and platforming experience better. That, and Puzzle Quest is severely luck-based. Tell me how many times an enemy you should easily curbstomp has somehow managed to beat you? It's even worse in Galactrix!

Bonus: The difficulty is the best answer. Things start taking off single hearts per attack early in the first world, and you lose your superwtfpwnagerobot charge if you lose your silver hearts. Which, for boss battles or cage matches, can really screw you hard. But if you want a second answer, the fact that you can't refight bosses. It's not a feature in many games, but it would have been perfect in this one. Taking on enemies with new powers and all...
Stout Garlic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2009 20:49
Stout Garlic
Henry Hatsworth.

I daresay it's probably one of the best games i've seen on the Nintendo DS for a looooong time.
ChopmasterT's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/17/2009 07:20
ChopmasterT
Henry Hatsworth
twincannon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/17/2009 08:19
twincannon
Henry the fuck Hatsworth, no contest. Not even close. Oh god just by sheer mention of it now I want to go play it some more, even though I've already 100%'d gentleman mode.

*hums weasleby tune*

Also for anyone who doesn't know - henryhatsworth.com has the entire OST available to download for free.
ninjaninja5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/17/2009 12:48
ninjaninja5000
Hey, Hatsworth looks pretty interesting. But then so does this!

Watch NINJA PIG 2!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zpr8FNfUw
modernromantics's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2009 14:07
modernromantics
I vote for Henry Hatsworth because I just don't like Puzzle Quest. Never played Henry though, but I love every screenshot and the ideas behind the game.
Boatz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2009 17:41
Boatz
Puzzle Quest FTW.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2009 13:53
Dexter345
I have now played both of these, and while I am loving Henry Hatsworth, it hasn't hooked its claws into me nearly as much as Puzzle Quest did.
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 21:59
Fronz
Ok, now that I've played it, I'll chime in with a vote for Henry Hatsworth as well. Also, voting is closed!
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