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Game Debate to the Death! Phoenix Wright VS Henry Hatsworth photo

Last week was another battle between a recent-ish DS game versus an older DS game, and this time the support was for the other side of the fence. Here are the results:

  • Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure (36 votes) -- Good Show!
  • Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords (9 votes)

This week we enter the finals round of the Nintendo DS brackets. Both contenders received tremendous amounts of support leading up to the finals, so I predict a lot of people will be torn when casting their vote. In true odd debate fashion, these two games are very hard to compare to one another, so I look forward to reading a lot of well thought out comments this week.

Which game do you think is better, and why? Give it some serious thought, get some DS friends to share their opinions as well, and check back next week for the winner.

Bonus Question: What four PSP games would you like to see in the next few rounds of debate?


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Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 22:32
Harris Hatsworth
Aghhhhh. I have to give it to Phoenix Wright. Hatsworth is in my top 10 list, maybe even top 5, but Phoenix Wright is top 3. It's not uncommon for me to be up at 5am gaming but for Phoenix Wright I stayed up until 5am on a school night (having to be at school at 8am the next day) to finish it because I was so enthralled.

The bonus question has no bearing on me since I don't own a PSP.
Wheelchair's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 22:35
Wheelchair
Crap, this is tough. Phoenix Wright has a bit of a legacy, but Hatsworth is effing awesome. They are both really different types of games. Gonna vote for Hatsworth, nostalgia be damned!

As for PSP games, Monster Hunter Freedom 2, Wipeout Pure, Patapon, and LocoRoco.

I wish I could just list Monster Hunter Freedom 2 four times. It's by a large margin the best PSP game out there.
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 22:36
Fronz
since I had not yet played henry hatsworth, i went out and got a copy so i could vote in these debates. after quite a few hours with it, i'm a little bothered by some of its gameplay. don't get me wrong, i'm really enjoying it despite some of its frustrating (and admittedly challenging) nuances, but mostly i'm not a fan of combining tetris AND metroid style gameplay simultaneously. at first i thought it might be better to have them separate, like maybe the tetris stuff was just for the boss fights at the end of each level, but the more i weighed the pros and cons, i realized the better it is they combined both and made the game that much more hard/interesting from start to finish. i've got to admit that even though it might bug me -- occasionally even get under my skin -- that i'm glad they did it that right.

hell, it even somewhat reminds me of the NES days when a game didn't just last a night or two, had tons of replayability tucked into secret level design areas, and actually challenged you to beat the game. i like that it's not a dumbed down metroid or DK country game. it has some british balls to it.

all that being said, i can't really fault ANYTHIING phoenix wright did, but i can fault several things henry hatsworth has done. some of the more challenging aspects of the game are obviously done on purpose, but i have to doubt the reasoning things such as letting me die AFTER a boss has been killed. come on, seriously? there's also a few level areas that are just as poorly designed as the countless brilliantly designed corners of each level. so that knocks the game down a few points.

but if i made a list for all the pros and cons of each game, henry hatsworth offers farrrrr more than phoenix wright, and shows a lot more imagination by varying levels and even the gameplay design itself. so there's really only one choice i can make this week.

VOTE: Henry Hatsworth.
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 22:37
Fronz
No worries, I feel pretty sure Monster Hunter will make the cut for the PSP round.
Das Inchworm's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 22:46
Das Inchworm
Hatsworth is fun but is absolutely nowhere near Phoenix Wright in terms of fun and awesomeness.
ROMaster2's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:01
ROMaster2
Haven't played Henry Hatsworth, but I'm throwing my vote to Phoenix Wright
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:01
007
PW niqqa. And as for the PSP games... FF: crisis core, Daxter, Monster Hunter Freedom 2, and Locoroco.
ROMaster2's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:02
ROMaster2
Haven't played Henry Hatsworth, but I'm throwing my vote to Phoenix Wright
inque's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:02
inque
Phoenix Wright for me!

One of the first hand held games that made me really play my DS even I was at home (usually I only boot it up when I'm out)
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:06
Luigi takes over
Phoenix Wright <3. The series in its entirety was absolutely amazing
dmgi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:08
dmgi
I think Phoenix Wright is probably one of the most immersive games regarding the story, and I just didn't get that feel with Henry Hatsworth.

I'm pretty biased because Phoenix Wright was one of the first DS games I bought and that really got me into portable gaming, so I'll have to go with Phoenix Wright. And Fronz brings up a good point about the imaginative design, and if that were the contest it would be Henry Hatsworth hands down, as it stands I thought that at no point in Henry Hatsworth did it come close to that satisfying feeling of yelling your final objection in a case when you nailed someone.
Stella Wong's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:10
Stella Wong
Phoenix Wright hands down, there hasn't been a game that's hooked me like that series has. The compelling story telling and interactive investigating game play. It's what makes it the best game on the DS by far.
bVork's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:21
bVork
Henry Hatsworth, since it's the best game on DS.
theredpepperofdoom's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:24
theredpepperofdoom
Phoenix Wright gets my vote. Love the humor and the cases. And the game in general.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:30
Monodi
And the titans clash!

I am not voting for this one either, I will sit in the front row to enjoy the melee. Thank you.
tender heart's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:31
tender heart
OBJECTION! phoenix wright
grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:33
grafkhun
Vote: Henry Hatsworth and the Puzzling Adventure

Bonus: Pursuit Force, Pursuit Force, Pursuit Force, Pursuit Force.
dgschrei's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:37
dgschrei
Again I have to vote for my favourite game on the DS. Phoenix Wright.
Bitpunk's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:44
Bitpunk
Objection! Henry Hatsworth.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:48
Chronic Logic
Hatsworth all the way!

Phoenix Wright is just a story. It doesn't even deserve the title of video game.
Jonathan Ross's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2009 23:50
Jonathan Ross
Phoenix Wright!
Azereki's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:03
Azereki
Phoenix Wright all the way!
gatorsax2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:05
gatorsax2010
Is Phoenix Wright one of my favorite games of all time? Why yes, yes it is.
bluexy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:06
bluexy
Henry Hatsworth is an abysmally repetitive, borderline annoying game. Phoenix Wright is a classic.

PW is king.
Ace Flibble's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:10
Ace Flibble
Hatsworth is an incredible game, but Phoenix Wright wins out via it's numbers advantage. I wouldn't lose the Phoenix Wright series for just the one Hatsworth game. Maybe once Hatsworth has a sequel out (there better be one!) it'll be a different story, but for now the legacy of Phoenix Wright has to win.
Catmurderer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:19
Catmurderer
Hatsworth

PSP:

GTA (vice or liberty)

Lumines

Monster Hunter

WipeOut

(Extra extra PSP uses Porn vs Emulation)
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:30
Wedge
Phoenix Wright is barely even a game. But it's going to win in a landslide, so whatever. Voting for Hatsworth, for what it's worth.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:33
Wedge
As for PSP, I don't care about all the miniaturized Sony franchises on it, and there's very few notable original properties on it otherwise. So I dunno... Crush?
tkyy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:38
tkyy
Phoenix Wright.
Wghj55's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:48
Wghj55
I'm going to start by saying I haven't played any Phoenix Wright game on the DS. With all the people saying it's one of the best DS games out, I may have to try it at some point. But as it stands Tetris Attack (in all its incarnations) is my favorite puzzle game of all time. It is so simple, yet so addicting.

By seamlessly combining my favorite puzzle game with a very addicting action platforming game, EA has made one of my favorite games of all time. I will admit that it is just hard once you get in to the treasure dimension...and I too fell victim to the death after boss trick. But it just works on so many other levels.

My vote is Henry Hatsworth
Danzflor's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:48
Danzflor
Wooo. this is a tought one. i recently played henty hatsworth and love the mixture between an plataform game and tetris attack, but my feelings say Phoenix Wright, simply for the reason i love it every single game of the franchise.

About PSP...mmm...i haven't played a lot of psp but my picks would be God of War, Patapon, MGS Portable Ops and Tekken :3
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 00:54
ParaParaKing
Phoenix Wright!

As for PSP games:
- LocoRoco
- Patapon
- God of War: Chains of Olympus
- Lumines
Steeldragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 01:07
Steeldragon
Phoenix Wright since I haven't played Hatsworth.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 01:30
ArrestedDeveloper
Phoenix Wright.
Kylehyde's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 01:38
Kylehyde
Phoenix Wright
Cadtalfryn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 01:42
Cadtalfryn
Phoenix Wright!
diversionmary's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 01:43
diversionmary
For PSP: Jeanne D'Arc, The ability to play PSX games, Daxter, Lumines and idk, Loco Roco?
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 01:51
Kyousuke Nanbu
I'm gonna vote for Phoenix soley on the fact that while Hatsworth is a ton of fun, its immensely frustrating at times because of poor design choices, I don't like arbitrary difficulty.

That and the game goes from a difficulty climb to a difficulty cliff, it gets insanely hard after awhile and the bosses take way to long to kill.
ian_esq's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 01:52
ian_esq
hatsworth
Arugala9's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 01:58
Arugala9
Phoenix Wright
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 02:53
Los255
Phoenix Wright. It's more original and the story is nice.

Henry Hatsworth has a BULLSHIT difficulty spike.
hood_954's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 04:24
hood_954
Phoenix Wright. The story is just superb and absolutely immersive. Really makes you think hard.

B.Q.: Patapon, Killzone: Liberation, FFVII:Crisis Core, Echochrome
doifX's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 04:26
doifX
Phoenix Wright.
Snidesworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 04:47
Snidesworth
Phoenix Wright
OmegaPhoenix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 06:07
OmegaPhoenix
I bought the DS for Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, but I stuck with it after purchasing Phoenix Wright, so Phoenix gets my vote.
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 06:27
wanderingpixel
Both are so good. But I have to go with Hatsworth.

Bonus: Syphon Filter, Monster Hunter, Crush (great game, underrated), and Death Jr.
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 08:02
JamnOnTheOne
Hatsworth

I've never understood the facination with Phoenix Wright. I found Phoenix games extremely boring and tiring experiences.
Exrecaller's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 08:02
Exrecaller
Phoenix Wright
twincannon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 08:18
twincannon
Henry Hatsworth. And I hope he gets as many games as the PW franchise has.
awa64's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 08:58
awa64
Phoenix Wright doesn't have nearly as many flaws as Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure.

That's mainly because Phoenix Wright doesn't try to do much beyond tell a story and throw a few dialog-tree-related puzzles in your path, while Henry Hatsworth decided to take a high-level 2D platformer and experiment with grafting the best puzzle game of all time into it as an action gameplay element.

Vote: Henry Hatsworth, because it dares to try something new and different in a platform that exemplifies the video game industry's insistence on rehashing the tried-and-true over and over again.
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