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Game Debate to the Death! No More Heroes VS Metroid Prime 3: Corruption photo

Last week we finished up the Xbox 360 round of odd game debates and now we move on to the Wii brackets. After a ridiculously brutal matchup against Fallout 3, BioShock had to go the distance once again against the highly anticipated, and first round massacre champ, Mass Effect. Here are the results:

  • BioShock (83 votes) -- Winner!
  • Mass Effect (55 votes)

This week's first round Wii debate comes from the suggestion of Dtoider Grafkhun. In his exact words, "No More Heroes --- Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (both are action games, yet totally different)." The setting and gameplay moods are definitely polar opposites so I've got a feeling a lot of people will be voting with their guts this week. Just make sure you give the opposing side some serious consideration before making your decision final. Then fill us in on why you made your choice, get some Wii friends to share their opinions as well, and check back next week for the winner.

Last week also brought out more fresh robot faces with brand new accounts -- it's good to see newcomers jumping in! If you're still lurking without an account, what are you waiting for? Pick a week when you're familiar with both games and join in on the fun!

Bonus Question: What was one thing you didn't like about the game you voted for?


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Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:51
Diverse
NO MORE HEROES for me. I never got into the Metroid series, but to be fair I never really gave it a shot.

Bonus: Schpeltiger controls. Shit was whack.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:52
Naim Master
No More Heroes , I didn't like how the "city" was empty , witohut cops barely any civilians and just a long and boring way to get to point B ...
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:53
Fronz
gotta sit this week out since i sadly have not played either of these games at all. i'll let the winner decide which one i try first though.
Novakaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:53
Novakaine
No More Heroes, by far and away. While MP3 is a good game, it's still eclipsed by the first Prime, and NMH is such a breath of fresh air it was wonderful. The character design was great; the soundtrack was utterly brilliant; the writing fantastic; and the pacing and "level" design was terrific. No More Heroes is thus far the only Wii game that completely lived up to my insane hype.

The thing I disliked the most from No More Heroes...? Maybe the fact the enemies were nothing but cannon fodder. I know the overworld is going to be mentioned, but personally I thought it was a brilliant irony that Suda51 implemented (the overworld is boring because it's boring to Travis).
Wookiee's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:54
Wookiee
Are you kidding? I'd never vote against my lovely Samus.
Novakaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:55
Novakaine
When I say "enemies are cannon fodder," I mean the lackeys you destroy en mass. Obviously, the bosses were all amazing, and the game had some of the best boss fights I've ever had the pleasure of playing.
daftruhtra's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:56
daftruhtra
No More Heroes, but I haven't played Metroid Prime 3 yet.

Didn't like: The grinding between levels, but that was my fault because I always bought a bunch of stupid crap after every boss fight.
Dr Milkdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:56
Dr Milkdad
No More Heroes.

Didn't like the side mission that are insta fail if you are hit once, especially when the enemies were using guns.
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:57
garison
I'm gonna have to go with Metroid Prime 3. That game is just fucking amazing. I didn't like it as much as the first one, but it is still a really great Wii game. But No More Heroes is a great game, it is just not as good as MP3 though.

But I know which one Dyson is voting for ;)
Jaren Face's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:57
Jaren Face
I'll give it to the game I spent the most time with last year, which would be No More Heroes. On my original playthrough, I loved so many aspects to it. It had a great style and the bosses were really entertaining.

It was just... as Nalm said, the city was pretty lackluster. There wasn't really anything to do and it was pretty bland all around. I also didn't like the overall choices of weapons and how the final one I found to be less effective other than its unlimited power source.
Doomsday Forte's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 22:59
Doomsday Forte
Murr...I liked both games, but NMH was cool while MP3 was notable for the new Wii controls, which it's losing with the Wiimakes of MP1+2. So, my vote goes with NMH this time around.

What I didn't like...the #2 fight more than anything. Apart from her having an absurd amount of HP given her next-to-final-boss status, she has an instant kill and it took me FOUR TRIES to kill her on EASY. *gnashes teeth* I didn't have as much trouble with the other battles in the game, but this one took the cake forever.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:03
Tubatic
NO MORE HEROES -- Metroid Prime 3 was amazing. Cinematic at times, slightly tense and emotional and the proof-of-theory that the Wii can play a perfect host to a new and intuitive way to play FPSs. Its a great game that's worth a first or second look.

However, No More Heroes brought something wholly fresh to the Wii table. It feels undeground without being completely amateurish. It lent an aire of auteur presence and feel with cult superstar Suda 51 putting his thing down. And, maybe more important than all that: its a 3D beat'em up that manages to use the Wii controls in the some of the most satisfying ways to date. There are few thrills greater than registering that final sword swing and watching Travis put his body into a baseball style swat, complete with gushing visual and audio effects. The wrestling moves would find their way, oddly enough, into this month's Deadly Creatures. The suplex motion is slowly becoming as familiar as the quarter circle fireball!

Also, ebay lightsabers.

Bonus: I didn't like not being able to immediately restart the one-hit-failure type missions. I appreciate the tension, but the penalty killed those missions for me.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:09
Jonathan Holmes
This is a really tough one. NMH is so original, while MPC:C is anything but. Likewise, MP3:C is so polished, while NMH is one of the most unpolished looking games I've ever played.

Technically, MP3:C is the better game, but if I were trapped on a desert island with only one of them, it would be NMH. So NMH gets my vote.

And the one thing I didn't like about NMH was the way the city parts of the game looked so much worse than the "action" parts of the game.
Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:11
Drach
All the Metroid Prime games sucked ASS. Super Metroid is the best Metroid game there is. Prime is Nintendo trying to make up for the loss of Rare/Goldeneye/Perfect Dark.
No More Heroes gets my vote.
Chris22533's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:11
Chris22533
I'm gonna go with Metroid Prime 3. MP3 was a tough game all the way through and with No More Heroes everything was super easy until you got to the boss fight which were amazing. The slow start that reminded me to much of Halo. Metroid doesnt need any damn space marines.
DanlHaas's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:13
DanlHaas
This is a tough one. I guess I'll go with No More Heroes, though. I'd go through the merits of each, but Tubatic really covered that part for me. I'd just be echoing him.

Bonus: Overworlding was basically lame. Dodgy controls, bland environments, lots of needless driving around... got pretty repetitive.
sweetchuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:26
sweetchuck
No More Heroes

Even though the city needed to be fleshed out, and it wasn't near as slick looking, it was still amazing fun and original. Prime 3 was too FPS for my Metroid. It took you by the hand too often, and felt too linear. If this was Prime 1 my vote would be different.
JDUB X's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:31
JDUB X
Definitely No More Heroes

GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR DESPERATE STRUGGLE!!!!!!!!!!
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:36
vexed alex
This is a hard choice for me because I disliked both of these games.

Metroid Prime 3 took a complete turn in how Metroid Prime and Metroid games felt. You had a group of douche nozzles helping you out for goondness sake.

And No More Heroes was all flash and no substance. The gameplay was an absolute bore.

Eh, I guess I'll go with No More Heroes. I had a tad more fun than I did with Metroid prime 3 (1 will always be the best).
Chopp's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:37
Chopp
Prime 3. There wasn't much I didn't like about it, either.
alpha486's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:39
alpha486
I'm going with Metroid Prime 3. Control felt so natural, it got me to play an entire FPS game and enjoyed the hell out of it. I usually suck in this genre.

As far as what I didn't like about the game, hyper mode isn't as cool as it could have been. It's supposed to feel kick ass, but I kept feeling like I wasn't making effective use of it.
angusm's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:41
angusm
No More Heroes.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:41
Hiltz
No More Heroes

Liked:

- original characters
- sweet art style
- over the top presentation
- good controls
- awesome wrestling moves and
- eccentric music (virgin child was an awesome surprise)

Disliked:

- most of the jobs weren't that fun
- city was too big with little to do in it
- special power-ups rarely obtained and can be executed at times when there's no enemies
- the up and down sword position wasn't that important and didn't add much to the gameplay


Metroid Prime 3

Liked:

- impressive controls
- great graphics and detailed art direction
- pretty good combination of combat and puzzle-solving
- loved the new items like the grapple beam and lasso

Disliked:

- lack of offering more beam weapons and armor suits
- lack of creative boss battles
- voice-acting was decent but prefer not to have it
- Didn't care much about the allied bounty hunters

As much as I really liked No More Heroes, there's a lot that could be improved and I hope Grasshopper does so in the sequel. However, the game's sense of style and attitude as well as the combat mechanics made it a lot of fun to play though.

Metroid Prime 3's controls, level design and pacing felt like a refreshing change and one that made it easier to complete without having to backtrack long distances.

I'd have to go with Metroid Prime 33 for offering solid gameplay that does more to innovative and is also more polished and better looking.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:43
Hiltz
One other thing.

No More Heroes offered two cool endings while Metroid Prime 3's was rather dull especially for the ending of a trilogy.
MissHinasaki's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:45
MissHinasaki
No More Heroes. So much more unique and really fun combat. I think that's all I really have to say.
madninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:48
madninja
MP3 for me turns to crap at the end and No More Heroes is one of my top games of last year. So No More Heroes for me but something I don't like is I need more of the game.
bahss's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:53
bahss
I hated the open world in No More Heroes, actually. If you're going to make a world to play around in, it should be fleshed out more, and not arbitrary and bland. And although I really LOVE the sci-fi feel and play of MP3, I just couldn't get into it. Strictly graphics though, MP3, hands down. But, as far as my opinion, I'd have to go with No More Heroes, mostly because it's just fun as balls.
Korolev's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:54
Korolev
No More Heroes gets my vote

Bonus Question's Answer: The Fact that it froze on me - yep, No More Heroes froze on my a couple of times, first when fighting Destroy man, secondly when fighting speed-buster and lastly when fighting bad-girl. It took me a long time to forgive it for freezing on me, right when I was about to win.
grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:55
grafkhun
Hey Fronz did you have planned wii debate matchups or did you go the easy way and just have us make up the matchups? hahaha, just kidding. And thanks for using one of mine.

Anyways, I have only played a bit of NMH, but I still prefer MP3:C. I liked the other primes, but I felt they were a bit too adventurey, and I liked how MP3 had a bit more shooting than the others.

Vote: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

Bonus: using the grappling hook beam thing, a minor complaint, I just had some difficulty getting the timing down right using it.
megatron0016's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/24/2009 23:58
megatron0016
prime 3 without any hesitation. this was the entire reason i bought a wii in the first place. i played through on all three difficulty settings and i loved playing through on hyper mode. it delivered all the challenge i could have ever wanted and more. i always loved the method of story telling in the prime series and this one is no exception. the attention to detail s simply unparalleled. Bonus: the 100% ending pissed me off to no end
rcmulligan85's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:00
rcmulligan85
I loved both games but NMH was just so much fun and entertaining. MP3 was ultimately just more metroid nothing revolutionary but still a very good. Going around town and doing odd jobs wasn't fun but the bosses more than made up.
Tony Ponce's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:03
Tony Ponce
I just finished playing No More Heroes, so it is freshest on my mind. The style just blew me away. Once the game ended, I immediately played through it again on Bitter difficulty.

Two things, though. Why don't those missions have a restart option? I don't want to drive all the way back to the stupid chick who can't speak proper English and has so much damn eyeshadow that she looks like a raccoon and then drive all the way back to the stadium just to miss the three baseballs yet again.

Second, the final battle. Took over 1000 hits. I clocked that in around 30 minutes. And the pattern didn't change at all. What should have been epic turned out to be a chore. Seriously, his HP should have been cut down to about 30% of that.
donkeykong's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:03
donkeykong
NMH gets my vote too. I liked the fact that it was boring and repetitive. I liked its intentional lack of substance. It was just so brutal and unexpected. Metroid prime feels like it could have been so much more. I guess sharp controls and technically proficient graphics aren't enough.
SirRobin1's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:06
SirRobin1
No More Heroes
mikeyed's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:08
mikeyed
Played neither, but artistically speaking I pick No More Heroes.
ammoelf3's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:09
ammoelf3
NO MORE HEROES

It's my favorite Wii game yet, as it actually makes the motion controls fun, unlike Zelda (which I loved, just no those shitty wii controls).

The worst part of No More Heroes was easily the overworld/"sandbox" city map. God it was awful, boring, and everything looked like shit. Just shows how much I loved the combat.
jorge's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:12
jorge
MP3

I hate how almost every boss had that same stomp-the-floor-and-make-shockwaves-that-you-have-to-time-your-jump-over move.
BenHaskett's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:14
BenHaskett
NMH, all the way. The awful bosses in MP3 kinda killed it for me. Still a great game, but, man, those bosses were bad.

NMH really stuck with me though. That was a great game.
Mr Jonson's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:22
Mr Jonson
Metroid Prine 3 was better all around.

No More Heroes was a great game too, but it just needs more cowbell compared to MP3

Either one could use a good sequel. Too bad we aren't going to get another good Metroid game for a while
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:42
Fronz
@Grafkhun: I had a list of games I was willing to use and narrowed it down a bit and then had some pairing choices in mind, but felt like getting reader input first this time. No More Heroes support stuck out the most in the comments and since your pairing setup worked the best that's the one i went with.

Usually I pick all the matchups but semi-often I also let reader input pick exactly how things go down. This time it was a bit of both.
Kaboom's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:47
Kaboom
I personally prefer No More Heroes. It was a fresh experience with an over the top attitude and excellent character design (That "Bad Girl" scared the hell out of me).

Metroid Prime 3, on the other hand, is a very refined experience with wonderful graphics for the Wii's limitations. In comparison though, it just doesn't hold the same kind of "charm" that No More Heroes possesses.

Both are great games, and they definitely both hold their ground quite firmly. If there is any problem with them, it would be No More Heroes tacked on open world hub and repetitive combat, and Metroid Prime 3's "been there, done that" feel with poorly developed characters (more specifically the other hunters).

I find most games now a days seem to lack a sense of "character connection". Just because you stick a good guy in front of me and say "he's a great guy", then have him blasted into oblivion does not make the player feel sorry for him. Sure, he could of been great at writing poetry or kicking kittens, but I sure as hell wouldn't know that with the 5 minutes of total character development they had.

This problem could also be from the lack of "human connectivity" with the character that seems to be looked over. Hard to feel connected with a card board cutout.
geekjutsu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:50
geekjutsu
NMH hands down. The prospect of a sequel is the only reason I still have my Wii. It was loads of fun and oozing with style. Great bosses and the ending was awesome

Bonus: No hit missions were controller throwing level of frustrating. No boss rush mode.
CWal37's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 00:54
CWal37
Metroid Prime 3. It doesn't get nearly the acclaim it deserves, and while I love both games, I sometimes feel like NMH gets too much.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 01:04
mistic
No More Heroes!!!

BQ: the fact that some of the submissions immediately dissappeared if you failed them :-( some were quite fun but way too short :-)
CAVE's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 01:05
CAVE
I vote for No More Heroes. It was a awesome new IP with a sense of style mirroring killer7.

I played MP3, first one out of the series. Not my cup of tea.
---AMARU---'s Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 01:14
---AMARU---
Couldn't get into Metroid Prime 3. I have to go with No More Heroes, just because I had so much fun playing it, and the experience was super unique!
I loved it; can't wait for the sequel!
SirSlade's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 01:22
SirSlade
I would feel bad voting, as I haven't played MP:3. If, however, MP:3 is just like MP only with the wii controls (which I have played a little of) I would go for No More Heroes. I will, however still answer the bonus question:

I didn't like the overworld travel in NMH, I think they should've done more with it or left it out. Also, longer would be nice, but I'm not going to complain it was too short.
Gangles's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 01:22
Gangles
No More Heroes, anything by Suda51 is gold
The Prodigal Son's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 01:24
The Prodigal Son
Metroid Prime 3 'cause blood is thicker than water. There wasn't much I didn't like about it, other than it felt too easy at times.
DookieJuice's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2009 01:32
DookieJuice
No More Heroes was THE game that really got me back into the Wii and since I don't have a 360 or a PSTriple I was glad to have No More Heroes in my life.

The thing I really started to dislike was the whole playing the same assassination mission over and over again to earn enough money to fight the next boss, other than that No More Heroes is my # 1 favorite Wii game.
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