10:04 PM on 03.17.2009
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Fronz
Last week we finished up the Wii odd debate brackets with two games that appealed to completely different target audiences. Both were big winners in their initial rounds, and watching them go toe-to-toe didn't disappoint. Here are the respectable results:
- Super Mario Galaxy (69 votes) -- Winner!
- No More Heroes (52 votes)
You gotta hand it to No More Heroes for doing better against Super Mario Galaxy than Twilight Princess did a week earlier. Not bad at all for a game that most likely had a much smaller team, budget and advertising campaign.
Now it's time to move on to the PS3 round of odd debates, and in our first bracket we have two new mismatched games to fight to the death. Their settings are different and their gameplay styles are drastically different, but the one thing they both have in common is that neither series needs an introduction. Which game do you think is better, and why? Give it some serious thought, get some PS3 friends to share their opinions as well, and check back next week for the winner.
Bonus Question: What was one thing you didn't like about the game you voted for?
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Contest:
Ninja Gaiden Sigma was fun, but I felt no reason to keep playing 3/4 through it, so I bailed.
But then, why is it better then NGS? ,Which I also haven't played.... Because it's bloody MGS4! Dammit! Still should have got game of the year across every Game site I reckon.
Metal Gear Solid 4 all the way!
frustrating for different reasons, but Ninja gaiden was too frustraing for me...
MGS 4 all the way
Metal Gear Solid 4
I can't think of anything I didn't like. Maybe some of the dull cutscenes that took forever. That's really it thoug.
What I didn't liked about it was that they forgot the whole "the patriots have been dead for 100 years" twist from MGS2 but it's still awesome.
My only complaint would be the Konami ID to play MGS Online. I tried and failed to figure all that crap out, so I've never played it online, which is disappointing. But the single player game I was very happy with.
No contest, its gotta be Metal Gear!?
That's not to say NGS wasn't a fun game and even though MGS4 let me down alot more than NGS I still think MGS4 is better.
I cant really think of anything wrong with it. yeah the cut scenes were long, but they had a purpose. You get to understand the complete story arc. I though it was appropriate.
While I want to vote for sigma, I really only can claim NG:B for xbox.... I never got around to getting sigma to play through one of my favorite action games for the 16th (seriously) time.
As for the bonus? Some people don't like the installs every playthrough. I don't mind. My complaint is that MGO didn't come with a separate disc. The fact that it is on the MGS4 disc validates my bonus vote. No nay-sayers, lest ye jugular be lacerated.
I'm not sure if this is even a contest. Won't be close at all.
One thing I didn't like about MGS4 was how I had to hit triangle to cling to a wall, where as in previous MGS games, I could just hold the stick to the wall, and he would do that automatically.
Another thing I didn't like was that I couldn't run and gun like in the previous games(or fire from the hip). It may have been less accurate, but you moved faster and it looked cool.
Metal Gear Solid 4...
Why? Cow noises, that's why.
As for the bonus question having never played the game: The lack of Samus is my answer.
Then again, I stopped playing NG Sigma because 1 week before MGS4 came out, NG2 came out.
I think this should really be NG2 vs. MGS4. Is MGS4 better than Sigma? Yes, I think, mostly because as soon as NG2 showed up, I stopped playing Sigma entirely.
Regretfully, I vote MGS4. I would vote NG2 if that were its contender.
I bought NG Sigma and it was over the top hard and I made it pretty far before loosing interest in it.
this should have been SFIV vs. MGS4
i can't think of a truly legitimate complaint, but the controls being changed to have a more western feel kind of took me off guard. i've been hitting circle to confirm for years.
I'm a "Ninja Gaiden is too hard" pussy, and the game itself just doesn't appeal to me, so MGS4 gets it. But honestly, there are very few games ever that I would vote against MGS4. If I play through it two or three more times there is a good chance it will be my favorite game of all time.
Bonus answer: This is one of the few games I can say there is nothing I found wrong with it. Well, the between-act installs were kind of bullshit. That's pretty much it, though.
Bonus question: I think the octocammo was a pretty shitty replacement of the cammo mechanic in MGS3. Also, the game sort of lost the "Metal Gear" feeling, to me at least. Probably because they tried to westernize it and focused more on the action. I consider it the worst MGS game. (Yes, even worse than MGS2)
Neither game has anything even remotely close to do with each other. One is the epic conclusion of almost 15 years to a stealth/espionage story so awesome it spans five different consoles and the others is an action remake of a game so hard, only a minority of fans ever beat the original game without ever using save states or a game genie.
Yes, I'm specifically referring to the birth of emulation with the NES original Ninja Gaiden which was the first game everyone downloaded in order to actually beat... you know you all did it like I did cause that game is fucking wicked hard.
On that alone, I have to...
vote: Metal Gear Solid 4
Ninja Gaiden Sigma was a remake of a remake of a remake. MGS4 completed something epic. Something that had backbone to it. It had history and built up emotions over generations of games that played off one another.
If you voted for Ninja Gaiden Sigma over MGS4, then you haven't played the original MSX version of Metal Gear 1 and 2. Hell, you probably never played the NES version of 1 or even knew that there was a difference between the US sequel and the original. Fuck, you probably don't even know what an MSX is. You probably would dry heave at Metal Gear Solid's controls and whined about having no first person view aiming. You... are a lesser form of a gamer imho. >:-)
Bonus Question: The core boss fights themselves were relatively weak and easy by MGS standards, at least the Octopus, Raven and Wolf were all damn easy, even on the harder difficulties. Only Mantis was a pain until I figured out the trick, which took all of 3 minutes. However, all was made ok by the fact that Dreben called and told me their stories.
I hated not knowing the full life stories of each boss in 3, as each boss was more interesting then the last. I still want to know everything about the Fury. We got snippits, but not the whole story. Its one of the things I had loved from the first two.
Also, bonus points to MGS for bringing back the greatist boss of all time at the conclusion of the Screaming Mantis fight.
I felt the ladies of war bosses were kind of extraneous to the game and did not advance the plot. I understand their purpose was to portray the horrors of war, but they just didn't fit with the rest of the game for me.
something i didn't like: kojima saying this is the last of the series.