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Last week was a big win for a Little game. Despite a few gripes with the winner, here are the overwhelming results:

  • LittleBigPlanet (58 votes) -- Winner!
  • Resistance 2 (9 votes)

This week we move on to the last bracket in the PS3 odd debates, and we finish with one of the oddest matchups in a long time. One game couldn't get much more serious, and the other couldn't be much more silly. Both have had tremendous amounts of support from launch to present, so I'm expecting a good fight to the finish. Because both games are so different, I'm really looking forward to seeing everyone's reasons for their decisions. 

Which game do you think is better, and why? Give it some serious thought, get some PS3 friends to share their opinions as well, and check back next week for the winner.

Bonus Question: What are some PC games you'd like to see in the next few odd debate brackets? DS game suggestions? PSP game suggestions?








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adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:26
adultswim810
Oh MGS4 definitely. LBP didnt come close.

bonus:PC- portal, tf2?
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:29
MrSadistic
MGS 4 because it's for real men -flexes-
ThrashingLimbsEd's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:29
ThrashingLimbsEd
LBP just edges it I think.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:30
Dan CiTi
LittleBigPlanet
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:32
Chronic Logic
Fuck that shit, Metal Gear Solid 4 wins hands down. LBP is nothing more than a platformer with a level editor.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:33
Mushman
MGS4, and rather retype a comment from the MGS4 poll, I'll just copy and paste my reasons:

'Mgs4, with out a doubt.It was one of very, very few games this generation that had narrative brilliance, it was grand, epic, and lived up to all of the expectation poured on it. Hundreds, thousands of games have failed to do that, MGS4 did not.

Honestly, It was the best game I have played in the past nine years, simply because Kojima actually understands the fans and gave then the ultimate MGS, supassing it's predecessors by a mile. Not only that, but it beats every single hollywood action movie in recent history into the ground, Hollywood can only wish to make a media product as awesowe as MGS4.'


Continuing from that, LBP was fun, but it did not have the sheer impact MGS4 had, nor the epicness of it. LBP was awesome in it's creativity aspect, but without freinds to play with you, the experience lost it's luster quickly.

MGS4, however, gave you incentives to play the game over and over again, unlocking cool stuff and seeing how different play styles can alter your experience. I played throgh the entire game running and gunning, however, I played through it again using a hell of a lot of stealth, and the experience was vastly different, and amazing to go through.

LBP is fun, but it does'nt linger in your memory for the rest of your life as MGS4 does, IMHO, that is. :)
HydroTonix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:36
HydroTonix
MMMMMMMMMm. I didnt beat either of them, I just played them on my brothers PS3. So ima sit this shit out brosif.

BONUS: DS GDTTD: Pokemon Diamond or Phantom Hourglass.

PSP GDTTD: LocoRoco or Patapon.

PC GDTTD: Lego Racers, or Pajama Sam
thisissami's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:39
thisissami
LittleBigPlanet. simply because i want to support the more creative (read: not shooter) game. platformers are my favorite kinds of games out there, and that combined with the online and creation tools that littlebigplanet holds, it gets my support over something more standard. to be fair, i've yet to play any MGS game. i just bought the MGS essential collection so that i can play the first three before MGS4, so my opinion may change after actually playing it. for now though, i'll go with LBP. sorry for something that isn't more thought out/objective...
Uber Mashu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:39
Uber Mashu
To you sir, I say Metal Gear!
Both games are fantastic. However, I don't find myself craving a bash on LBP half as often as I do with Metal Gear. I blame my man muscle.

DS suggestion; Maybe Chrono Trigger Vs. Pokemon Pearl/Diamond/That other one?
thisissami's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:43
thisissami
oh bonus question:

PSP - patapon and crush
PC - portal and TF2 (and put them on opposite ends of the bracket to see if they battle it out at the end!)
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:44
pascuz46
What do you think? METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS TACTICAL ESPIONAGE ACTION...there you go.

As for the bonus

PC: Left 4 Dead, fallout3, Crysis, WOW, Farcry 1 or 2... and many more

PSP: God Of war, Patapon, Resistance, MGS: PO, Locoroco, Wipeout, FF7...that's all I can think of now.
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:50
Kalmah
MGS4

Easily.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:50
Daxelman
LittleBigPlanet.

It manages to save itself from having a complete bullshit story by not having (followable) story at all.

It still has that physics problem, but hey, that's something you can fix.

Bouns:

DS: Feel The Magic vs Cooking Mama

PC: Half Life: Blue Shift vs Half Life: Opposing Force

-or-

Half Life vs Random H-Game

PSP: Patapon vs Every Extend Extra
ArcticFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:51
ArcticFox
MGS4!!!!!!

DS: World Ends With You, Advance Wars, FFIV, Professor Layton, Pheonix Wright, and of the Castlevanias...

PSP: MGS Portable Ops, Outrun 2006 (had to!), God of War: CoO, Ace Combat X, Wipeout Pure/Pulse, Pursuit Force
Rhyno's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:52
Rhyno
MGS4 easily. LBP is a good game, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't come close to MGS4, IMO.

Bonus:
PC: Half-Life 2 and Crysis.
PSP: Patapon, God of War: COO, Crisis Core: FF7, Killzone: Liberation
Pyroph's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:55
Pyroph
MGS4
D Sane's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 21:59
D Sane
Both games are great...but MGS4 is way better. Think about it: You could put Snake into the world of Little Big Planet easily and they did. If you put a Sackboy into the MGS4 world, that'd just be ridiculous.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:01
CelicaCrazed
I'm not voting this week because I haven't played MGS4 yet. But after the rape that Resistance 2 took by LittleBigPlanet, everyone is going Metal Gear now!? Really!? I knew it was supposed to be a good game but never really felt that inclined to play it though. I guess I really am missing out and must correct my ignorance.

Is there ever going to be a Developer Debate or was there already one a while ago?? I think that would cause some good discussions.
Roager's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:01
Roager
As for me, I'm kind of a platformer fanboy, still going back and beating the old Mario games time and time again, just for fun.

LBP wins, but not by much. It definitely has a certain charm to it, but it allows for a lot of obnoxiousness when you've got a big group together. Youve got 3 sackboys, each with their own outfits, then there's the fourth, which decided that there can't be enough things trailing off of him.

It's douche-tastic move, but at least the game's lighthearted and fun.

But honestly, MGS4, while it is a great game, isn't interesting.

I've lost interest in stealth games almost altogether. Nothing innovative, just new packaging.

LBP may not be the most fleshed out game in the world, but it's well made, and has a lot of replay value. Plus you can play with friends. And, if nothing else, its a breath of fresh air from all the various military games we see every day. Halo, COD, MGS, Haze, Crysis, etc.

No idea on the bonus question. I don't pay enough attention to handhelds and PC gaming anymore.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:01
Qraze
mgs4.
Knigge's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:14
Knigge
MGS4. Come the fuck on. I love LBP just as much as the next guy, but sers.
Ravec999's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:16
Ravec999
MGS4
keefles's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:20
keefles
MGS4

The game is a gift from Kojima, and MGO is hard, but worthwhile.

PSP: Infected vs. Every Extend Extra
etirflita's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:26
etirflita
This one is a tough call. I've loved the MGS series for many reasons. From a storytelling standpoint, the games surpassed even what cinema can do, from a gameplay/technological perspective MGS has always pushed the current generation of gaming, and it feels like I've seen Solid Snake grow up from scrappy/cocky one-man army to disillusioned, crotchety old man like his father. When I played through MGS4, I thoroughly enjoyed each revelation, but once the final credits rolled, I was finished as well.
Little Big Planet was a game that I wasn't anticipating much until the beta. The beta opened my eyes to how much fun creating a game can be when the only goal you have is to experiment and fool around with the given tools. LBP is fun condensed into a little package of joy. The level design was fantastic, but especially became mind blowing when the player realized that they could make what they had just experienced. Every one of us could become a little Kojima, sharing our fictional worlds with all of its ups and downs, grit and all to the world, and then watch them grin as they ran our gauntlet of creativity. My girlfriend and I can hold hands and enjoy the same virtual world together (when she's not smacking me into a fiery pit), and LBP is one of only a few games she wants to play when she's with me.
Both games have had they joys and pitfalls with online play issues, but what it comes down to is.. which wins- snake or sack? and personally i get more enjoyment out of playing with my sack.


plus... come on. RaidenSack ftw.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 22:44
SephirothX
mgs4
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 23:09
gamadaya
I haven't played mgs4 enough to vote, but it would probably win if I did. I have no doubt that I would like it a lot less than mgs3, but I would still probably like it a lot. LBP was just frustrating at times. Of course, I never really got into the level editor very much. Maybe that would have given it the edge. I don't know.

Bonus:
Bangai-O Spirits vs. anything man! Such an incredible game. In fact, it's probably in my top 10 favorites of all time. To bad it didn't get much attention.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 23:09
Magesx
OH GOD

I CAN'T EVEN CHOOSE

BRAIN MELTDOW6NALSAKFJL352SAJ2FLAKS52NFLAKSNFOAINFOWA6352IFNOIFNASF]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
TheGregsaw's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 23:25
TheGregsaw
I'd like to see how my favorite game ever (TF2) compares to other PC games. I don't have a PS3, so I can't vote for this one.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 23:30
hpv
As much as I love MGS4 (not quite as great as MGS3, unfortunately) I've definitely spent more time with LittleBigPlanet. Plus you've got the MGS4 pack. MGS4 is more awesome, but LittleBigPlanet should win.
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 23:42
Xhumation
MGS4. It was a a great way to conclude a series that had me tied up for a decade. seeing Meryl again after 10 years, finding out Akiba's identity, the reimagining of Raiden. It all game a massive gaming hard on.

Bonus:

Elite Beat Agents vs Rhythm Heaven.
Disgaea DS vs Final Fantasy Tactics A2

Don't own a PSP and don't really play PC games. sorry
crackity jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 23:45
crackity jones
MGS4

DS - FFIV vs Chrono trigger
PC - L4d vs TF2
Kira Plaga's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 23:48
Kira Plaga
What can I say about the Metal Gear series that hasn't been said before?

Vote: Metal Gear!?
ptcoakley's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 23:53
ptcoakley
MGS4

For PC games: Dawn of War vs Starcraft, Crysis vs Far Cry 2, Quake 3 vs UT
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/31/2009 23:58
BattyAdroit
I own both, and I bought the MGS LBP expansion. Does that means I get to vote for both? :)

Both are amazingly high quality games. It's impossible for me to pick one over the other.

It's like picking the chocolate Hostess cupcake or the lemon one. mm. cupcake.
tomr4's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 00:06
tomr4
I'm gonna have to go with LBP. the gameplay and physics are top-notch and the level creation and community features add an almost infinite replayability. while I've always respected the MGS games, they've never really grown on me...just not my style.
maverick535's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 00:21
maverick535
The culminating story of one of the greatest video game characters of all time vs. what should have been a Wii game.

MGS4 wins by far. From the story to the gameplay to the accessible yet deep online play, the game has it all.

Seriously, if you picked LBP, imitate one of those sackboys and put a sack over your head and kill yourself.
Bodb's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 00:33
Bodb
Although I was a fan of MGS4, its good moments were smothered by a giant pillow made of cutscenes. And Otacon crying about stuff. Since what I've seen of LBP has no cutscenes in it, I have to go with LBP, for not having cutscenes about MAKING FUCKING EGGS ARGH THE GAME HAD LIKE 2 HOURS NON-CUTSCENE DRIVEN GAMEPLAY.


LBP.
ZenHK's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 01:32
ZenHK
MGS4.

If ever I was unsure, Snake's final boss fight proved to be LBP's finishing blow. A very poignant close to the series.

PC - Grim Fandango, The Sims, Black and White

NDS - Castlevania Ecclesia, Elite Beat Agents, FFIV
faultymoose's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 01:50
faultymoose
LBP. Easy. MGS4 was entertaining, but I never finished it. I was never a fan of the series (didn't dislike it, just never got into it) so I came to MGS4 as a newcomer. Perhaps that's unfair, because my friends assure me MGS4 is epic when taken in context. That doesn't change the fact that my vote, without a doubt, goes for LBP.

Bonus: World of Warcraft vs Counterstrike. HAHAHA
t3chn1k4l's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 02:30
t3chn1k4l
Old Snake stealthing it out in MGS4. Like a MFNINJA!!!
Nogarda's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 02:33
Nogarda
MGS4!!!!
garrfunkel's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 03:07
garrfunkel
It has to be MGS4. Simply because for anyone who's avidly followed the series from MGS its been a ten year rollercoaster with so many ups, downs, twists, turns and various other bullshit and then it was all topped off so beautifully with MGS4. One of the best cinematic gaming experiences ever.

LBP is an amazing game in its own right but it just doesnt have the impact or the thrills that MGS4 offers.

Bonus: DS- Phoenix Wright v Apollo Justice, PSP - Patapon vs Echochrome, PC - Warcraft 2 v Starcraft
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 03:19
JustLikeBuck
As much as I love the Metal Gear Solid it hasn't changed dramatically over the years. It looks prettier, and the cutscenes are getting longer, but for me the winner is LBP.

It's an amazing game to play with somebody next to you, and it's been a while since I played a genuinely co-operative game, not just one where you play with with others for a common objective.

Plus it has endless possibilities in the level editor, and need I mention Steven Fry?

So LBP!

Bonus: Games that have 75 or less on Metacritic. Lets praise the games that we love, but nobody else did. Lets not fellate games that are already raw from praise.
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 03:50
ajaxender
Little Big Planet, because it has MGS4 stuff in it and totally ruined it for me. I havent even played MGS4 yet, but im gonna be in hysterics every time Liquid Snake talks.

Also LBP is fun, blah blah blah whatever.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 04:09
Takeshi
Jesus this shit is hard.
I love LBP. I was crying from laughter when Shipero, James and I were playing the most crappy levels published. I even woke my neighbor up. Creating your own levels is awesome and Sackboys are cute.

BUT!

I choose Metal Gear Solid 4. Hideo Kojima is my hero. The story, the music, the movies (yes, I love those cut-scenes!) all those small hidden secrets. MGS4 is my favorite game of all time.
(even though Metal Gear Online sucks ass. Fucking region lock and Konami ID bullshit)

God dammit.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 04:16
Sexualchocolate
OK, difficult one, both Brilliant in their own way.

I would have to say MGS4 as it will stay with me, I'll never forget growing up alongside Snake, albeit Snake growing old way faster (damn foxdie) and the final conclusion (?) of MGS4.

LBP is a truely unique game, a little package of joy, but MGS4 is a massive package of WOW.

MGO sways it easy too, don't care much for LBP online multiplayer play myself.

PSP games has got to have Monster Hunter Freedomm 2 in there - best PSP game EVAR.
liam2015's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 04:40
liam2015
MGS4
ammoelf3's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 04:50
ammoelf3
Vote: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

Did a fantastic job tying up the storyline 20 years in the making. Sure there are some problems with it, but I can't think of a more satisfying explanation to an entire series. People can bitch, but they're bitches.

It took almost every element from past games and perfected them. Camo went from a slow menu based affair to a context sensitive game play feature. Combat controls were GREATLY increased, grenades had trajectory, shooting took the over the shoulder model, you could run while crouched over.

Just overall it took almost every good part of all the past games and polished them and made them work and wrapped it all up in this intense epicness.

It doesn't hurt that I finally got into Metal Gear Online and am having a BLAST with it.

Oh yeah, and it's my favorite game of all time. So no real contest here.

MGS4!
Loogibot's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/01/2009 04:54
Loogibot
MGS4!!!
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