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Game Debate to the Death!<br>Pyramid Head VS Big Daddy photo

Last week's developer debate was one of the largest discussions we've ever had. The pros and cons of Valve versus id Software were bounced back and forth for a full week and both sides received large amounts of support. It was a blast reading everyone's opinions, but unfortunately only one side can win each week. Here are the results:

  • id: 43 votes
  • Valve: 87 votes -- winner! 

This week I want to take a break from the game developer debates that require lots of logic and thought, and instead keep it simple. When I went to pop in BioShock earlier this week, I turned on the television to see that the Silent Hill movie was on, and it just happened to be at the part where the church steps got covered in a coat of skin and blood. With the BioShock game case in my right hand, I held it up to the TV screen on my left, and it looked similar to the image you see above.

I thought to myself, "Damn, if Pyramid Head was flying on a plane . . . with a six foot blade in his luggage, and he just happened to randomly crash land into a secluded underwater city filled with scuba divers from hell, which one of these badasses would win in a fight to the death? Totally plausible." I've got an idea of who I think would win in a fair fight, but I want to hear what everyone else thinks. Would Pyramid Head cut his fathom-high foe in half with one slice and slowly skull-love him in each of his ten eyes, or would the Big Daddy drill a hole right through the head of the sinister skin-skirted little sister stalker.

Help me crown one of these two beasts as the best bad guy of them all, despite the fact that neither could fashionably wear the head trophy. Who would win in a fight, and why? Cast your votes, give us a reason for your decision, get some friends to give their opinions, and check back next week for the winner.

Bonus: if one of you awesome artists out there can skillfully illustrate one of the two enemies above killing the other, then I'll be happy to post your art as next week's picture, regardless of whether it matches the winning votes or not.








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Arcanum's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:51
Arcanum
Pyramid head, no doubt.
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:52
F Whipple
I don't think I've ever been so torn on one of these debates. But I think I'm going to go with pyramid head. He did rip the skin off of a girl after all
BFeld13's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:52
BFeld13
Big Daddy.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:53
Bob Muir
Damn, tough one. Big Daddy.
zomB Eter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:54
zomB Eter
pyramid head.
masterledz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:54
masterledz
This has got to be one of the hardest Game Debates I've voted in.

ARGH......Big Daddy....it was close.
Plibble's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:54
Plibble
Pyramid head the fekker is nearly invincible lol
also his weapon may aswell be a can opener to the big daddy lol
Paul Soth's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:55
Paul Soth
I knew this would happen.

Anyway, keep Pyramid Head away from the Little Sisters. Really, we don't need that...
RskimB's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:59
RskimB
Pyramid head!
Das Inchworm's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 21:59
Das Inchworm
Pyramid head.
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:02
Fronz
I figure, even if Pyramid Head got in the first strike, there's no way that blade could cut him in half with all that burlap mesh clothing. And IF he got first strike on Big Daddy, he'd immediately get a hole in him somewhere... which he could probably survive. So then it comes down to speed, and Big Daddy wouldn't let PH get in many blows. On the other hand, he does have a pyramid on his head. which is awesome. so it's still too close to call, and deserves more in-depth inplausible details:

technically, if PH got ahold of a hypnosis plasmid, it would be all over, and little sisters would never be safe again. however, if big daddy was ever actually losing the battle, he could just blow open the glass windows and drown the egyptian fucker. so i don't see how big daddy could lose, unless PH cut off BD's legs, and the scuba beast fell down face first.

my vote = BIG DADDY!

i want someone to hack bioshock tho, so we could actually see this fight play out.
skoomaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:02
skoomaster
I think the pyramid head might win this one easily
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:03
Fronz
ps, i couldn't resist this lame joke:

bottled dark's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:03
bottled dark
pyramid head.
GrimReaper's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:04
GrimReaper
I'm gonna have to go with Pyramid Head. Loved Bioshock, but after finding out I could pretty easily dispatch a Big Daddy with several shotgun rounds to the face, they lost their intimdating effect on me. I wasn't afraid of running into one.

Now Pyramid Head, on the h=other hand, when you run into him, one swipe means death. Even when he stands still the first time you see him behind bars he freaks me out.
Tron Knotts's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:06
Tron Knotts
I've been doing a lot of artlately so I think I would love to draw these two doing stuff to each other.

But not tonight, it's bed time.

Tomorrows?

And I vote for Pyramid Head.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:07
Gameboi
Pyramid Head
Tron Knotts's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:08
Tron Knotts
oops.

Make that art...lately

Sorry for the word fail.
Vigor's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:08
Vigor
pyramid head
starscream's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:14
starscream
Big Daddy.
anonuser's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:15
anonuser
I'm going to have to go with Pyramid head. The thing is next to impossible to kill. Big Daddies were a breeze to take down, even in hard mode. And the blade can probably cut straight into a big daddy no problem.

So Pyramid head it is.
Pixelated Lilac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:17
Pixelated Lilac
Pyramid Head. I prefer his method of rape, thank you very much.
kwaselow's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:18
kwaselow
P(yramid) Diddy
Hoygeit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:21
Hoygeit
Hmm. I'll have to say Big Daddy (I agree with a lot of Fronz's points about PH getting Plasmids though...).

While Pyramid Head provokes a stronger reaction, James was human and did not exhibit abilities to weld plasmids which made Pyramid Head all the more terrifying.

Yes, Pyramid Head is faster then a Big Daddy- but so are Splicers (and you know how that turns out).

Besides, if we're going by game mechanics then the Big Daddy just has to have enough time pass before getting a Little Sister that something will my Pyramid Head go away.

emotoaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:24
emotoaster
Pyramid Head with a drill hand!
dubbya's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:24
dubbya
There are fewer Bioshock fanboys coming out for this one than I thought, huh.

Well, big daddies are just guys in big metal suits, admittedly they have some hefty weaponry but Pyramid Head is a being of pure malevolence and torture that rapes mannequins... hmmmmmm

Game set match Pyramid head
tsunamikitsune's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:25
tsunamikitsune
Pyramid Head
the GAMEGOBLIN's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:28
the GAMEGOBLIN
Pyramid Head
BlueJester's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:29
BlueJester
Big daddy!
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:29
GrayFox
Big Daddy! If it was a rape contest on the other hand...
Dr l0cke's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:30
Dr l0cke
Big daddy
WmV337's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:31
WmV337
Its rape time! Fuck yeah Pyramid Head.
ConsFEARacy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:35
ConsFEARacy
Shopped this pretty quickly...hope it doesn't suck too bad...



Pyramid Head FTW!
Hoygeit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:36
Hoygeit
Sorry, dumb question. Are we suppose to place our entries in the comments or somewhere else?
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:39
Fronz
yep, right here in the comments is all you have to do.
Hoygeit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:39
Hoygeit
Well that answers that, thanks ConsFEARacy! :)
WastelandTraveler's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:39
WastelandTraveler
I'm sorry, I have to call a tie on this one ..

1) Big Daddy is a bad ass with a drill for an arm, and hes wearing a fucking diver suit.
2) Big Daddy can charge and run over you like a freight train.
3) Big Daddy is Big

1) Pyramid Head rapes torso legs.
2) Pyramid Head wears 80's modern art style trash can on his head.
3) Pyramid Head has a big ass sword.
Foshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:40
Foshi
Pyramid Head. Every time I ran into that fucker in SH2 I nearly shat myself. Compared to the Big D who wa
Hoygeit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:40
Hoygeit
Gah! I'm too slow on the keyboard.

Sorry for the comment spam, thanks Fronz.
Foshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:42
Foshi
Argh, my fucking sticky keyboard.
slorojo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:44
slorojo
I'm going to have to go with Pyramid Head here....only for sheer rape factor
TheBrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:44
TheBrain
Pyramid Head
ran24's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:44
ran24
pyramid head.
dubbya's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:46
dubbya
do you think a big daddy would run away in shame if pyramid head raped him?

if so, it's not even a contest
Tetris Hermit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:46
Tetris Hermit
The only reason Pyramid heads are so powerful in Silent Hill is the lack of proper arms. A Rosie type Big Daddy would annihilate PH with his bolt gun and proximity grenades. A bouncer would have to get close, but with superior Armour and speed it's really no contest. Also keep in mind because of the suit, PH wouldn't be able to use his special rape powers.
Colette Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:48
Colette Bennett
This has to me the hardest choice for me ever as these are two of my favorites.

gah.....I think Big Daddy would win. Pyramid Head has a big weapon to drag around and he was never fast. Big Daddy could slam him quickly.
twincannon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:54
twincannon
Hm, the patron saint of rape versus the god of drilling holes into your stomach using oversized powertools.

I think I'm going to have to go with Pyramid Head, but NOT because of the Silent Hill game, but the movie. I mean come on, he rips a chick's entire epidermis off, tits-first.
twincannon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:55
twincannon
Also I have to say you guys are bastards if valve won over id - I missed the battle, so I didn't vote, but god... Half-life 2 is based on quake 1 code. Carmacks comments are still in the fucking game code!
OpTiMaL's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:55
OpTiMaL
No contest, Pyramid Head.
Little Burro's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2007 22:56
Little Burro
Pyramid Head and good art consfearacy.
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