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Game Debate to the Death!<br>Paper Mario 64 VS Super Mario RPG photo

Last week's debate was the first of two rounds, where we argued over which of the three Paper Mario games is the best and most deserving to duel against its predecessor in round two. Obviously by this post's name and picture above, Paper Mario 64 came out on top, but it was a come from behind victory and a close fight to the end. Here are the results:

  • Paper Mario 64 (44 votes) -- Winner!
  • Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (31 votes)
  • Super Paper Mario (8 votes)

On paper (heyo!) this looks like quite the odd fight. We have a battle between a 3D Super Nintendo game and a 2D Nintendo 64 game. It feels wrong to make the two fight, since they feel like brothers or distant cousins in the extensive Famicon family tree blood line, but we don't call this Game Debate to the Death for nothing. Only one can survive, and it's up to you and your merciless friends to decide.

Which game did you enjoy more, and why? Was the gameplay in one more exceptional than the other? Did you find the story more exciting with one of them? Or was it the side characters that's the deciding factor? Give it some serious thought, cast your votes, get some Paper Mario pals to share their opinions as well, and check back next week for the winner.

Bonus Question: When the hell will we see more of Luigi?! After Super Mario Galaxy, what do you want to see next from the original Mario series?








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Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 22:58
Hamza CTZ Aziz
No fucking contest. Super Mario RPG. My number 1 favorite game of all time. It's simply perfection.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 22:59
Magesx
Paper Mario was here Hamza sucks
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:00
MechaMonkey
No doubt in my mind, Super Mario RPG. It might be my favorite game of all time. It was just so much damn fun, you can't vote against it.
Scrixx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:01
Scrixx
Super Mario RPG FTW. For once me and hamza agree on something.

And Luigi's Mansion: Waggle Edition will probably be next.
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:02
-PL-
Super Mario RPG. Why? One word: Culex.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:03
Magesx
goddamn everyone is voting for an inferior game

>:[
Merry Ho's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:09
Merry Ho
Super Mario RPG hands down. I loved all the character development. just a great game
Citizen Brain's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:09
Citizen Brain
Super Mario RPG. I love the characters, the music, and everything else about that masterpiece.
urbanyeti's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:10
urbanyeti
Super Mario RPG is, hands down, my favorite rpg ever. The music, the characters, the comedic timing of the whole game...it was all just so perfect.
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:11
Fronz
My vote:
Paper Mario 64.

My reason:
Because it's just a kiddy Mario game, but it was far more fun to play through than just about every Final Fantasy RPG game I've ever played. Sure, Super Mario RPG was badass, but the story and characters and dialogue and LEVELS (they were so fucking awesome for being so fucking simple) were far more exciting and enjoyable in Paper Mario 64. So much cleverness and ingenuity.

Bonus Question:

Someone last week suggested making the next game Paper Luigi, with his side quests he performed while Mario was off saving the world in Paper Mario 1000 year door. I think that would be a great game if they meshed the two storylines well to show that Luigi actually helped make Mario's life easier by working in the background.
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:11
Jordan Devore
Super Mario RPG is not only one of the few RPGs I like, it's also one of my favorite games ever. Give us more Geno, dammit!
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:12
Hamza CTZ Aziz
Magesx: Naw man, only you and Fronz voted for the inferior game. Dunno what you're reading.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:13
Magesx
You wanna take this outside, Hamza?
KyleGamgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:17
KyleGamgee
I never played the paper mario games, so I can't really vote...

Just kidding this is the internet. SUPER MARIO RPG BITCHES!
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:17
Hamza CTZ Aziz
No, fuck that. Meet me on top of the Empire state building covered in honey and wearing only a speedoo.
taumpytears's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:20
taumpytears
super mario rpg.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:21
Knivy
Mario RPG, that game was so awesome! Tons of easter eggs, amazing story, great graphics for that time (and they don't look bad now). I've passed that game like 6 times while I'm still slowly going through Paper Mario 64.

BONUS QUESTION:
Bowser kills Luigi, first Mario game rated M comes out.
NotAZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:22
NotAZombie
I'm gonna go with Paper Mario just because of it's charm and uniqueness.
pendelton21's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:25
pendelton21
Jesus, like this is even a fucking contest:

SMRPG SMRPG SMRPG SMRPG SMRPG SMRPG SMRPG SMRPG SMRPG SMRPG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gangles's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:26
Gangles
Super Mario RPG, because it was the first RPG I ever played and it really opened up the genre for me (I played Chrono Trigger and Earthbound next, those were the days)
frozenbabylon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:30
frozenbabylon
WTF? How is this even a contest?
bottled dark's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:30
bottled dark
SPOILER: SUPER MARIO RPG WINS
Celdurant's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:31
Celdurant
Super Mario RPG. Hands down. I love me some RPG goodness, and the ability to mindlessly grind with Mario is always welcome.

Plus Bowser has a weapon in which he picks Mario up and throws him at the enemy. Pure win.
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:45
HarassmentPanda
Super Mario RPG. I know there were more questions, but I can't be bothered with them when the answer is so clear.
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:46
eternalplayer2345
I never got to play super mario rpg except for a rental and I didn't get far. paper mario however was one of the first rpg's I beat by myself. If mario rpg was on the virtual console it would get the vote. But since I really only got a chance to play paper mario the n64 gets it for me
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:46
killias2
I like Super Paper Mario more than Mario RPG... but Mario RPG in this contest.
ian_esq's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2008 23:47
ian_esq
SUPER MARIO RPGIZZLE
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 00:00
manasteel88
wow...worst debate pairing ever...SMRPG!
masterledz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 00:01
masterledz
I'm going to chuck a Chain Chomp in your face if you don't vote for Super Mario RPG.

IT'S SIMPLY THE BEST BETTER THAN ALL THE REST
banzaiwolfe's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 00:03
banzaiwolfe
Super Mario RPG.
Kazooaloo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 00:05
Kazooaloo
Although Paper Mario had some cool side-kicks, one being Kooper, Super Mario RPG hands down was the best. Also because Squaresoft made it. They really need to do a sequel to SMRPG.

-Kazoo
Teta's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 00:20
Teta
Super Mario RPG is one of my favorite games of all times.
The addition of Mario elements on an RPG is just fantastic, jump, stomp, fire flower pellets, etc.
The countless easter eggs, specially the one where you go behind a wall and turn into the original Mario from SMB1 with the original music i think. That scene just changed my life, and that´s why SMRPG wins.
EarthbounderNess's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 00:22
EarthbounderNess
Axem Rangers.

Those 2 words are the reason that Super Mario RPG wins.

Nothing more.
Lostidentity's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 00:43
Lostidentity
Super Mario RPG, square at there best
Raidensolid's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 00:43
Raidensolid
Fo shizzle Super Mario Rpg Wins. Balee dat!
Gavin's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 00:47
Gavin
Super Mario RPG is by Square...why is this even a question?

NO CONTEST The Paper Mario games pale in comparison.
Chaosye's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 01:03
Chaosye
Paper Mario.

I liked it better than Super Mario RPG.
Can't really tell why, but Paper Mario is better.
Dr Milkdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 01:10
Dr Milkdad
Super Mario RPG. I used to have a song about this game when I was a kid, but I can't remember now.

Also, I sold my SNES and all my games for an N64, including this game and Earthbound. I haven't forgiven myself since.
mr geo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 01:32
mr geo
Super Mario RPG, one of many reasons the SNES is still my favorite system. I can't wait for Nintendo to release SMRPG on Virtual Console.

Mario RPG FTFW for the fuckin win
donkeykong's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 01:41
donkeykong
My Mario RPG rom keeps freezing when I'm in the menu screen but that just means I have to save state more often. It still wins, by a mile. This was one of the first RPGs I beat fully, right along with Chrono Trigger... both great games from Square's glory days
Patorama's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 01:54
Patorama
Not to pile on or anything, but it has to be Super Mario RPG. I still have a copy floating around next to all of those other epic end of the SNES era Squaresoft games.
Salty Soil's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 02:03
Salty Soil
I vote for Superstar Saga! Whoops, wrong debate :(

My vote then goes to Paper Mario 64. I'm drawn to it's better sense of humour.
wrathofpink's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 02:24
wrathofpink
Mario RPG. When playing paper mario I just can't help but wish was playing mario RPG instead. Every aspect of mario RPG is superior, especially the music.
Willias's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 02:26
Willias
Super Mario RPG.

Likable, new, and interesting characters. Interesting world design that took the classic Mushroom Kingdom and made it much more. Classic enemies and variations over the place. Amazing graphics for its' time. And to add it all up, a plot that involved an interesting villain that wasn't Bowser.

I love SMRPG, and haven't been able to get through any of the Paper Mario games because they all pale in comparison.
wrathofpink's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 02:30
wrathofpink
"since I really only got a chance to play paper mario the n64 gets it for me" -eternalplayer2345

You gotta love comments like these "I know absolutely nothing about what I am voting for, but I still feel that I should take a say in the matter and my voice should carry as much weight as someone making an informed decision"

You're so 16 years old it hurts.
Artimecion's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 03:04
Artimecion
Super Mario RPG, no contest there at all.

The music alone was amazing!

Booster... Axem Rangers... ahhhhh <3
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 03:24
Syn
Super Mario RPG for sure. I remember the first time I played that game it blew my mind! I mean a MARIO rpg! The only thing I have against it, and only now that I am older is that it's far too short.
Trevor McGee's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 03:43
Trevor McGee
Super Mario RPG
Kia's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 03:47
Kia
Ugh. This isn't even a contest. Paper Mario is cute and all, but Super Mario RPG is just plain outstanding. It's one of Yoko Shimomura's best soundtracks, Square's hand in the making is top-notch, and even the story and characters are more enjoyable and memorable than any Paper Mario game.

I would be willing to bet any person here voting Paper Mario is from the PSX-Gen (or N64 gen, in this case). Super Mario RPG is just that good, one of those few games that deserves every bit of hype it gets. I can't possibly see someone that has been gaming since the SNES days or longer voting for Paper Mario.
Blind assassin's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2008 03:53
Blind assassin
I love Super Mario RPG so much that I beat it several times a year. I honestly haven't done that with many other games. I downloaded Paper Mario on the VC but it's nowhere near as good.
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