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Game Debate to the Death!<br>Best Super Smash Bros. N64 multiplayer level? photo

Last week's debate was a nostalgic nightmare that was about as heated as the current Presidential candidate debates. For a week straight we heatedly argued over which was the best multiplayer level for the Nintendo 64 FPS game that devoured many of our childhood Summers. Here I am thinking that the only three GoldenEye 007 level candidates that stood a chance were Facility Clinton, Library Obama, and John McComplex, with a slight Temple Nader possibility on the side. Then I had my childhood destroyed when I found out that only my city was obsessed with the Library, and that I was actually voting for a hopeless Kucinich level. Here are the top results that made me cry and feel violated:

  • 1st: Facility (111 votes)
  • 2nd: Complex (75 votes)
  • 3rd: Temple (40 votes)
  • 4th: Stack (21 votes)
  • 5th: Bunker (12 votes) 
  • 6th: Library (7 points)
  • 7th: Caverns (6 votes)

I've voted for a losing poll option in plenty of these debates in the past, but I've never been as shocked as I was last week. It's a terrible feeling when one of your favorite levels of all time almost gets beaten by the number of "random level" votes. Those of you who voted for Stack -- are you sure you weren't thinking of the very similar Library level? Nevertheless, it's another week, and time for another ruthless debate.

This week's discussion is over which Super Smash Bros. 64 multiplayer level was your favorite. Keep in mind that this is not a debate about Melee, which will most likely be next week's debate. Which level was your favorite, and why? Give it some serious thought, cast your vote and reasons, get some friends to share their opinions as well, and check back next week for the winner.

Bonus: Since we already had a debate about who our favorite Smash Bros. characters were, let's take a step in a dangerous debate direction. Who will you vote for as the next U.S. president? Please stay civilized though.


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Aberrant Thought's Avatar
Aberrant Thought at 02/26/2008 23:39
Sector Z. No question. Most surface area for running, excellent trap at the far right for the stupid or hammer-endowed, AWing interference, Best one.

The Mushroom Kingdom bonus level was pretty good, too
Aberrant Thought's Avatar
Aberrant Thought at 02/26/2008 23:40
Oh and for president, Obama
Aerox's Avatar
Aerox at 02/26/2008 23:40
OBAMA '08!
Fronz's Avatar
Fronz at 02/26/2008 23:40
For this week there's only two levels that are hard to choose between as my favorite -- Link's castle level and the Pokemon building roofs level. The Pokemon level probably guarantees more exciting matches on average, but for balanced reliable gameplay, along with the tornado threat/strategy, we always played Link's level a little more than the Pokemon one.

So my vote is for Obama's Castle for this week.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar
Samit Sarkar at 02/26/2008 23:41
Sector Z for me, even though I don’t really like the Smash Bros. series.

Bonus: Barack Obama is the only right choice
twister1988's Avatar
twister1988 at 02/26/2008 23:42
Saffron City FTW, that was the name of the pokemon level right?
CaffeinePowered's Avatar
CaffeinePowered at 02/26/2008 23:42
Sector Z

Also Obama
MrSadistic's Avatar
MrSadistic at 02/26/2008 23:42
Clinton, because she has a vagina.
Aberrant Thought's Avatar
Aberrant Thought at 02/26/2008 23:42
The castle one is pretty decent, but I like plenty of running room. Though that damn tornado has screwed me over plenty of times! >:|
Fronz's Avatar
Fronz at 02/26/2008 23:44
PS -- here's a funny picture I ran into tonight when image searching:

http://flickr.com/photos/daughterofwily/62740585/

And for the record, usually these Bonus questions will always be on topic. Since the televised Cleveland Presidential Candidate debate was on tonight in my hometown, I was feeling political.
Scape's Avatar
Scape at 02/26/2008 23:46
There is no question, Sector Z. But Saffron comes in as a distant second.

Obama will probably get my vote...still not sure how things will play out.
angusm's Avatar
angusm at 02/26/2008 23:47
Mario one with the pipes.
The Bez's Avatar
The Bez at 02/26/2008 23:49
@ MrSadistic
You have to be one FUCKED up person to wanna go inside that ancient cave of death but hey whatever perks your pickle right?
Kyoden's Avatar
Kyoden at 02/26/2008 23:51
sector z

hyrule castle is close second
MrSadistic's Avatar
MrSadistic at 02/26/2008 23:52
I want to be all over Hilary, and inside her cervices too.
Dexter345's Avatar
Dexter345 at 02/26/2008 23:53
Fronz, that second level you're thinking of, I think it's actually from Earthbound. It's been a (very) long time since I've played Super Smash Bros. on the N64, but if I remember right, that's Fourside, which is not from Pokemon, but from Earthbound.

My favorite level was probably Sector Z, for most of the same reasons Aberrant Thought listed. I like the bigger levels, because I typically play the lighter, quicker characters.

I probably won't vote for President, because I'm an awful person. If I do, though, it won't be for a Democrat or a Republican, on the principal that I'm sick of the two party system. Libertarian for the win (unless we're talking about win of a Presidential election).
ShadowXOR's Avatar
ShadowXOR at 02/26/2008 23:54
Saffron City is best, followed by Hyrule Temple.

I still play this game:

Brawl > Smash 64 >>>>>>>>>> Melee
Jaren Face's Avatar
Jaren Face at 02/26/2008 23:57
While my friends would kill me for not choosing Hyrule Temple, I personally found Saffron City the best.

As for the bonus, I live in Canada? Lols?
DanielMachine's Avatar
DanielMachine at 02/26/2008 23:58
Saffron City
&
Obama
pendelton21's Avatar
pendelton21 at 02/26/2008 23:59
Hyrule Castle

Let me count the ways:
1. Layout: not as long as the fucking dread that was Sector Z, but longer than most of the shorter levels. It gave you plenty of room to fuck around with people, and enough room to escape pursuit. Plus, the 2 towers (the middle one, and the "barn" to the right) gave you enough hight to pull off sweet moves.

2. The tornado: once that bad boy came on screen, you knew some shit was going down. There was always some sort of mad dash around the tornado; either to get away from it, or get one of your opponents to fall into its grasp. Plus, the 2 seconds of whirling around in that death vortex are the most excruciating seconds in video game history.

3. The left side: Yes, the entire left section. That little slant on the side of the screen was a pivotal area for destroying rivals. Plus, the tornado occasionally turned up there, pretty much fucking up anyone in that spot. Plus, the kid that always spammed kirby's rock drop could be fucked up by the slant and fall to his death if he wasn't quick enough.
pendelton21's Avatar
pendelton21 at 02/27/2008 00:00
Oh, and Obama.

Crazy lady is crazy.
XEROXM3's Avatar
XEROXM3 at 02/27/2008 00:01
saffron city & obama. can't beat the pokemon elevator on that level.
Dexter345's Avatar
Dexter345 at 02/27/2008 00:01
I take it back, that was from Pokemon. Fourside didn't appear in the series until Melee. My bad.
Fronz's Avatar
Fronz at 02/27/2008 00:04
@Dexter345 -- nope, you're thinking of the Melee rooftop levels I think. The Saffron City level that everyone is voting for is the one I was referring to. It's the one where the middle main tower has a small tower to its left and right, and in the middle tower a door opens up every minute or so and a new lethal Pokemon pops out to fuck up everyone's fights for a few seconds. Fucking Blastoise!
Pangloss's Avatar
Pangloss at 02/27/2008 00:05
Hyrule Castle, and Obama. These comments are full of foolish Sector Z partisans who still manage to give me hope for America.

Let us reach across the Sector Z/Hyrule Castle aisle, and move onward to a brighter future, for Brawl.
Darkjad's Avatar
Darkjad at 02/27/2008 00:06
Hyrule Temple. I'm definitely stage-building that one when Brawl hits.

And . . . none. I live in Canada, and I wouldn't feel right picking one since I don't know their platforms. ALthough Obama seems the most personable.
Bus's Avatar
Bus at 02/27/2008 00:14
Zebes and Obama. I enjoy the rise and fall of acid, just in general.
Wedge's Avatar
Wedge at 02/27/2008 00:15
SectorZ/Obama.

That was the Great Fox level, rite? I always get confused coz' it was Corneria in Melee, and I never played the games a TON.
UreshiiShonen's Avatar
UreshiiShonen at 02/27/2008 00:17
DK level for one on one, but sector z for multiple. Obama all the way!
Unicorn's Avatar
Unicorn at 02/27/2008 00:18
RANDOM!!!!!!!

lol jk

Saffron, or the bonus mario level.

those fucking tube effects were awesome. why isn't every level from the original smash bros. in brawl?!?!!? i want some saffron and hyrule castle
Shazbot's Avatar
Shazbot at 02/27/2008 00:19
I agree with a few people who already posted

Saffron City followed by Hyrule
NegFactor's Avatar
NegFactor at 02/27/2008 00:26
Planet Zebes, hands down. Mostly bias as a Samus-lover. If the character fits, use it.
BlueJester's Avatar
BlueJester at 02/27/2008 00:31
Sector Z! It always seemed the most balanced. Also, all my friends had a furry man crush on star fox at the time.
vexed alex's Avatar
vexed alex at 02/27/2008 00:34
I vote for the Pokemon level. I never had a Nintendo 64, but I used to play this game at my cousin's house and that's the level I remember playing the most.

Also, I'm voting for Obama. You know you're the wrong candidate for this country when hyper conservative bitch Ann Coulter will vote for you (despite your Democratness) because she doesn't believe McCain is conservative enough and thinks you are.
SourGr8pes's Avatar
SourGr8pes at 02/27/2008 00:37
All about the zoomed out battles of Link's Castle, and in second place, the frequent pitdeaths of Saffron City.

Ron Paul's my sort of guy, being that I'm libertarian myself, but since his campaign went down the drain (except those zealots who wish to hang on), I'm hoping for a Obama/McCain versus match.
Seriously, I don't care which one of them win, just as long as we bump Hillary out for good.
Dan CiTi's Avatar
Dan CiTi at 02/27/2008 00:39
Saffron City.

Brawl's stages are amazing. It's too bad they didn't bring back Great Bay or Saffron City.
brainpower4's Avatar
brainpower4 at 02/27/2008 00:46
Ahhh decisions decisions, It is so hard to decide. Hyrule; NO wait Sector Z; or....OH I forgot about Saffron City, ok lets go with that, final answer.

Good thing the presidential choice isn't that hard, Obama FTW
Arugala9's Avatar
Arugala9 at 02/27/2008 00:47
Saffron City hands down. The pokemon appearing on the roof added so much to that level.
Petrie's Avatar
Petrie at 02/27/2008 00:49
Saffron City.

And McCain, I'm actually shocked how many of you claim to be voting for Obama. I'm going to assume this is based on just following whatever is trendy and whatnot, and not based on being actively involved of knowledgeable in the whole political scene. McCain deserves more respect than just about anyone in politics today.
skunta's Avatar
skunta at 02/27/2008 01:01
Hyrule is by far the best level multiple fighting heights 2 totally different sides to fight on its not very bia's to any character by far the best, sector z is terrible... when you have 4 people on multi you cant even see what the fuck your character is doing if people are on both sides of the level patttthetic
Bas's Avatar
Bas at 02/27/2008 01:02
The Pokemon level, lots of different places to fight.

Obama.
Paustinj's Avatar
Paustinj at 02/27/2008 01:03
Hyrule Temple for me

I'm voting Obama so far


Oh and to Unicorn, don't you ever let me meet you in real life. Now get the fuck off Dtoid.
emotaku's Avatar
emotaku at 02/27/2008 01:14
Hyrule Nader.
Fronz's Avatar
Fronz at 02/27/2008 01:16
@Paustinj. I deleted it already. Racism will obviously not be tolerated.
Toneman's Avatar
Toneman at 02/27/2008 01:16
Saffron City
robotoisawesome's Avatar
robotoisawesome at 02/27/2008 01:19
Hyrule castle for me

and of course Obama, and no petrie not because its trendy or whatever, but because i truthfully think he will be good for the country
No shutdown's Avatar
No shutdown at 02/27/2008 01:27
Hyrule/obama.
Its not following a trend if its what the country desperately needs.
Triphoppin's Avatar
Triphoppin at 02/27/2008 01:34
Hyrule caste with the tornado strategy!
Petrie's Avatar
Petrie at 02/27/2008 01:50
I'm sincerely interested in why people seem to think Obama would be good for this country.

Yes, Iraq was a bad idea, but we're there, and pulling out now (like Obama would like) will be disastrous at this point. More lives will be lost by pulling out now than this entire campaign over there has cost.

I'd love to think he'd be good for the country, as generally I always vote Democrat, but Obama scares me. He has all these grand things he claims he will do, but gives no answer as to how he can really accomplish them. Top that off with his inexperience, and I'd really love to know why people are eating him up. Change for the sake of change is never a good idea.
skyler's Avatar
skyler at 02/27/2008 01:51
Hyrule Fucking Caslte


or saffron
or sector z




fuck
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