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Game Debate to the Death!<br>Best GoldenEye 007 multiplayer level? photo

Last week's debate was a big Kum-Ba-Yah around the Dtoid campfire, in which we all discussed the games that have consumed the most hours of our lives. Some looked back lovingly while others shook their fists in regret Over two hundred votes were cast, and surprisingly the majority of them were all for completely different games than others had mentioned. Here are some of the games that stood out among the rest:
  • 1st: World of Warcraft (38 votes)
  • 2nd: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (15 votes)
  • 3rd: (Tie) Halo 2 & Counter-Strike & Super Smash Bros. Melee (11 votes)
  • 4th: Final Fantasy Tactics (10 votes)
  • 5th: Pokemon Red/Blue (9 votes) 
  • 6th: (Tie) The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind (8 points)
  • 7th: (Tie) Team Fortress 2 & GoldenEye 007 (7 votes) 
  • 8th: Final Fantasy X (6 votes)
  • 9th: (Tie) Final Fantasy VII & Diablo II (5 votes)

This week's debate question came to me when reading one of urbanyeti's comments last week. I realized that we've never had a debate over which are the most loved levels in popular multiplayer games. So, with easily dozens of great online and offline multiplayers to choose from, this will become the theme of the next few debates for the next month or two. On top of casting your vote this week, feel free to request which multiplayer games you'd like to have level debates over in the future!

For the first week of this new trend, the easy choice was GoldenEye 007 for the Nintendo 64. Take a look at the picture above and you'll probably see images of what several of your Summers revolved around as a child. The early Facility fad followed by the Complex Christmas of 1997, the Bunker days locked away in your basement, the Summer of slappers-only -- the list goes on and on, and every level deserves respect in its own way, but only one can win. Which level was your favorite, and why? Give each level some serious consideration, cast your vote, get some friends to share their opinions as well, and check back next week for the winner.

Bonus: Which multiplayer gameplay modes and/or cheat codes were your favorite to play with, and why? Also, which characters did you play as the most, and why?








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Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:32
Neonie
Bunker and Facalty were always my favs.
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:33
Neonie
Also: Paintball or GTFO
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:33
king3vbo
Stack FTW
Big Z's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:34
Big Z
Temple or Facility. Both were big without having huge spaces to wander around in searching for someone to shoot and had plenty of room for some pretty epic firefights. I always played as Travelyan for some reason, I guess he just struck me as more interesting than Bond.
Scape's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:34
Scape
Literally everyone I know loved fucking Temple. It was always Temple.

I was always a Complex fan.
zell's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:35
zell
Facility

Glitching vents FTW
27BaLLs's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:35
27BaLLs
Facility FTW!!! Come on. You get to hide in the vents and kill people why they pooped. Amazing.
FUBAR2713's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:35
FUBAR2713
Facility best map hands down
copulatingduck's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:36
copulatingduck
Caves and the Stack. I always went with the Snow Trooper guy on Stack (his suit blended really well with the gray) and some generically dark character on Caves. Paintball and Rocket Mode were the shit!
GeminiEye's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:36
GeminiEye
Complex and Temple FTW. Hiding behind the wall in complex so I could strike like ninja. Aww it brings back so many memories of owning as a youngin.
Scape's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:36
Scape
I always tried to get Oddjob because he was smaller, thus making him harder to shoot.
Or Bond because...he's Bond.
-D-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:36
-D-
Caverns w/ booby trapped catwalks courtesy of mr. prox. mine. Also, booby trapped body armor for extra dickishness.

cheats: paintball until everyone wanted cupcakes

characters: Moonraker -- because getting killed by an asshole in yellow is sad
BADInc's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:37
BADInc
definitely faculty
JPsmooth42's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:37
JPsmooth42
I loved (and ruled) the complex w/ remote mines. I was an original "screen looker", and took no shame in bombing the crap out of my opponents.
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:37
ajaxender
Ok, someone has to help me out here - my favourite level was the one with the bathrooms/toilets. Thats all i can remember of it.

And my favourite mode was mines only(played in that level, thats my best memory of goldeneye, damn its hard to think back that far lol). Kicked ass in timesplitters 2 as well.
Upgrayedd's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:37
Upgrayedd
Complex
JRisJunior's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:38
JRisJunior
@ajaxender

you're thinking facility

But I'm thinking complex. def complex. i barely remember playing many other levels.
Baron Calico's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:40
Baron Calico
No contest: Stack + Prox Mines. Tight corridors with multiple entry/exit areas led to many a great firefight.

Runner-up: One-hit kills + Slappers Only on Facility was a hoot.
DarkTravesty's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:40
DarkTravesty
facility or complex
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:41
HarassmentPanda
Facility was my favorite. I loved the strategy that could come from holding different parts of that map and using the Cougar Magnum to shoot people through doors. And who doesn't love a level with a bathroom?

As far as cheat codes; I never used them. My favorite gameplay modes were Licensed to Kill and the occasional proximity mines game--prox mines really required you to stay on your toes and search corners. ALWAYS play with the auto-aim OFF, c-button aiming is the only way to play.

I always played as Bond because I'm that sexy. If you play as Odd Job... GTFO!!
Aerox's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:42
Aerox
It's tough deciding between Complex and Temple, but I think I have to go with Complex. Barely.
emotaku's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:42
emotaku
wtf.

Complex. big time.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:42
BlindsideDork
GameShark, not to be confused with this one, allowed you to play bunker...but the three levels that stood up to me were the Stacks, Complex, and Temple.
raucci's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:44
raucci
COMPLEX! By far, bar none. Was absolutely the best multiplayer level, cause any type of weapon worked, and the layout was always complicated enough, while easily familiarized. Fuckin awesome.
Calla's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:44
Calla
complex then facility. paintball sometimes no radar. if it was not stipulated "no oddjob" i'd rush to get him first, otherwise i switched to whomever caught my fancy that day. probably played this game more than any other. ever.
MishoM's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:45
MishoM
Facility was always my favorite.
SwamiPat's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:45
SwamiPat
Goldeneye: best multiplayer game ever. fuck you world of warcrap, you got nothing on the "eye".

levels:
stack ftw
followed by facility and complex

i always played the snow guy. he was just way N.

code: paintball

this is the best debate ever.
BA Chieftain's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:45
BA Chieftain
Bunker was always number 1 for the ability to go outside, put a proxy above the door, and be perfectly safe.

Complex is a close second, but bumped down because it was so much more awesome in PD
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:46
vexed alex
Complex.
ankjevel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:46
ankjevel
complex! and I always play as oddjob
Lynx's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:46
Lynx
Facility: Proximity Mines, Paintball Mode, and (don't ask how) Turbo Mode.

I went back and tried playing with turbo on now, and I don't know how the fuck my friends and I managed to sit through it and play for hours on end. It goes WAY too fast, and the framerate drops to like 20. Fucking disgusting, but it was gaming bliss at the time. I still consider it my favorite FPS, but there's no way in hell I'll touch turbo today. Not unless they retouch it and RERELEASE THE MOTHERFUCKER ON XBLA. C'mon. DO it.
binny101's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:46
binny101
Facility for the win

Though i did love Bunker and archives. Archives was great when throuwin mine on the roof, people walking above exploded! BOOM!!
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:46
Cheeburga
Bunker.
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:47
Fronz
Ourmov for life!

Temple with rockets or remote mines was always great, and Complex was always a good time, but I've still got to go with Library.

We always -- ALWAYS -- played with License to Kill (one hit kill) and paintball modes turned on. Counter-Strike is pretty much the only FPS game I've wished would have less one hit kills, I really can't stand when FPS games take several hits to kill people on average.

PS -- for those of you who haven't played GoldenEye 64 for in years, you should try and go back. It's scary. Me and most of my friends just couldn't get back into the groove, and pretty much swore to never play it again so that we can always remember it as an amazing game.
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:47
Clockwork
Complex, hands down. I'm actually really surprised to see such a little amount of votes for it.

I was a Mines kind of guy. I had a friend who knew all the spawn points around Complex so he would just put proximity mines right at the spawn point so the second you spawned, big boom.
The Incredible Edible Egg's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:47
The Incredible Edible Egg
OMFG, Complex is the fucking win. Lots of places to wait for prey and you can setup some nasty traps. It's win all the fucking way!
casinogrande's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:49
casinogrande
Complex with Assault weapons, or whatever it was that had the assault shotgun and RCP-90
DanielMachine's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:50
DanielMachine
Hmm. Temple.
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:51
Fronz
@ Lynx -- seriously, either out N64s have grown weaker over the past decade, or somehow we just all had a high tolerance of dropped framerates as children. It was way worse than I remembered.

@ Scape -- Oh yah, we hated when people played as Oddjob because of that!

We also played with DK (big head) mode turned on a lot of the times too -- sometimes just to defend against people using Oddjob :)
Count Grishnack's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:53
Count Grishnack
Facility.

Also Oddjob is savage cheats. I forget the level name, but crouching in boxes with him sent him to banzville.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:53
B-Radicate
Temple.
BlueJester's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:54
BlueJester
complex FO SHIZZLIE
16bitmonster's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:54
16bitmonster
facility...ahh..good times in an air conditioned house with hot mom walking around in her bath robe.

also, BFF's hot mom FTW.
glitched's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:55
glitched
Complex hands down (although the tweaks to complex in perfect dark made it that much better)

we also did a lot of pistols - one shot kills.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:56
AgentMOO
stack
Ausl0's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:58
Ausl0
Temple was my favorite level because my brother knew Facility like it was the back of his hand. He knew where the AR44 was and the body armors and everything. He would place a proximity mine right underneath the vent, so you couldn't get out without dying. I dreaded that level. Temple bought a closer game because of the huge main room
The Incredible Edible Egg's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:58
The Incredible Edible Egg
I also loved paintball and mines were a personal favorite. I remember taking remote mines and stacking them on the wall. I just wish it could obstruct movement. Proximity mines were also badass.
Patriot SE's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:58
Patriot SE
Stack, always and forever
Danelle-ish's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:58
Danelle-ish
Complex/Facility, frequently with license to kill.
Ravana's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 22:59
Ravana
It's all about Bunker and Facility. Also, Odd-Job was the best. Midgets own in old-school FPSs.

ALso, nothing was more annoying than Remote mines in the Bunker.
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