My non-fanboy take? I just posted an ad in the Bradenton Herald to sell my Wii.

Snaileb,

How much?

The article does expose the one weak point here. Nintendo seems to not care too much about us gamers. Which is fine for me, I can feed off the VC service for years, but some games that appeal more to everyone would be swell.

We need a savior. We need a hero ~ We need a Mario Kart.

I think the Wii is in the same boat as the PS3 as far as lack of software goes. Around this time last year I remember thinking the same of the 360. I think if serious gamers give it some time, eventually there will be plenty of software that will be targeted for them. Same with PS3.

Atleast, this is the thought I cry myself to sleep with.

Adamska,

We need Mario.

He's welcome to bring his cart if he wants, but Mario being over a year late to the party is a record now for Nintendo.

Summa, yeah, gotcha, but the Wii is made for everyone. What's Happy Feet made for? Cars? WiiPlay? Where's our Mario/Metroid/anything that made us (y'know, gamers?) buy any previous Nintendo console? We're nearing the halfway point of the year and this summer's release schedule on the Wii is lookin' mighty sparse.

Yea, we do need Mario. As for the Wii being for everyone...I'd say it could be if they put out the right games. I'm not exactly keen on going back and playing Red Steel again.

My Grandma loves the wii, she always talks about it...then she proceeds to beat my ass at wii bowling >_>

Brawl, Metroid, what the fuck else ever you were expecting, aint coming. Not till late 07, early 08, or worse. I can always get one later in the year if they decide to come out with SMASH, and just play the others on my friends.

DVD talk to me on Xbox live. I trust Nintendo to do what's right.

I have an opinion. Massive "damage" should be changed to massive "progress."

That is all.

@ Kannon

What makes you so sure after making the "appeal to the non gamer" game, that the company will turn around and make the "hardcore" game, especially if its cheaper to make the "everyone" game, it sells more, and gives them a huge profit? What incentive do they have to make the "traditional gamer" game?

Where's the article about how Nintendo is destroying the industry as we know it? Oh wait, I'm writing that one.

@Adamska

It's a fair trade, IMO. Those who dedicate themselves to game careers may not necessarily have the best family lives. (EA what?)

i'm not picking one up until a) brawl hits or b) the price drops. there is zero incentive to pick one up right now if you enjoy quality games. i haven't seen anything on it that appeals to me whatsoever. nicktoons racing 38 and happy feet just don't appeal to me as a 21 year old college male, sorry nintendo. even zelda doesn't do it for me. one game does not a good console make. and seriously... what is the appeal of the tech demo that is wii sports? it's simply not that impressive. neither is getting a couple crappy old ports from generations ago.

My dad tried 1080 snowboarding on the N64 and laughed his ass off as he crashed everywhere. He's an avid golfer with a near-pro handicap and I can't get him to try Wii Sports golf or bowling (another of his favorite pastimes).

Yeah, real solid strategy there Nintendo. 1080 snowboarding got my dad to try out N64, yet your attempts to woo him with 'simplified controls' failed miserably. Thank god for console shortages or I would actually own a Wii.

And fuck the VC. I want new games.

@The Rob91

If the games for the common man become complex, common people will demand more from their games until the games for the average consumer become more and more hardcore until there is no difference. As an example in this trend, note that the Honda Civic of today is LARGER than the Honda Accord of the 1980s... and I wouldn't be surprised if it had more HP too.

Another bit of car comparison would be that everyone should be driving a Honda Accord, but the Mazda Miata (same price, just hardcore) still sells. It's because there will always be a market for hardcore games, so there will always be someone making hardcore games. Maybe it won't be the top seller ever or an industry leader, but they will always exist.

One guy thinks digg or gaming sites are indicative of the populus, another thinks going for the widest group of people is carving out a niche, and another thinks nintendo's strategy has backfired because his dad hasn't played it. We're surrounded by idiots.

Hey guys, I can give you 38 reasons why I don't participate in these discussions anymore. Counting's much more fun than arguing, so get to it!

Le yawn. I challenge any person here to name a console that had a significantly better lineup of software after 6 months than the wii. This is early adoption. Suck it up foos. A good reference for the wii is the DS. As stated in the article, it sucked for a whole year, now it's one of the best bits of gaming kit of all time, largely thanks to the popularity gleaned from appealing to the non-gamer market. It also baffles me how everyone insistent on the wii's suckage and game/mario drought is completely ignoring super paper mario. A hardcore, decent length game appealing mainly to the hardcore and featuring mario. In what way is this inadequate?

I'm also of the opinion that anyone who thinks there are no good games imminent for the wii are delusional. Apart from the oft bandied SSBB, mario galaxy and metroid, there's project hammer, disaster: day of crisis, batallion wars 2, fire emblem, umbrella chronicles, sadness, project S, no more heroes, treasure island z, dewy's adventure, opoona, dragon quest swords, mario strikers, nights... and that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head which are exclusive to the wii. Most of them should be good, and most should be released this year.

The article really had nothing most of us didn't know 6 months ago, if a well written account of it. Didn't read anything about the wii hitting the industry's weak points, though.

@im Ok

Thank you ok, your much better at voicing your opinion than me. I like the wii more or less and im tired of summa writing these dumb articles while sucking a sony CEO's cock. Summa do everyone a favor, take the penis out of your mouth and write a good article for once. And this time do it without contradicting yourself you sony fanboy prick!

Good job all you flamers! You have successfully fed Summa's ego!

Can't you see it? His head just grew 3 times it's normal size..


*rolls eyes*


Summa is upset that the Wii will probably break 10million units by the end of the year. Christmas will probably put them over the top. At least at their current pace. We all know the only reason that the 360 has hit 10mil in sales is because so many have been hit with the red ring of death (the reason I no longer have one). You have to buy a new one (which I didn't). It's 2007, the 360 has been out roughly a year and a half. The wii has been out 5 months, and close the gap by over half.

Oh wait though, the wii sucks, and will fail, and nobody will buy it. yeah thats right.


/propaganda


See if you are going to throw around fanboy propaganda at least do it correctly.


At this point, who gives a flying fuck anymore, All the systems are churning out pure shit now. I don't see ANY decent titles that aren't rehashed concepts with 'eye candy' or improved controls. I want something new ith a nice origional story line.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Jokes on me. I thought Summa might actually have found a good article here in which CNN stated that the Wii (which really is sub-standard by most media outlets gaming wise) was destroying the actual gaming market by drawing attention away and dumbing down the industry.

Instead what do I see? An article stating that the Wii was laying waste to the gaming industry sales wise.

Booo you cock-tease.

tehArtist,

Well said. This current myth, the one that suggests outside the world of Wii awaits a promised land of gaming is pure fantasy. I have all three consoles and there is nothig happening at all. Nothing.

In fact, the PS3 is a very expensive dose of deja vu, whereas the 360 has basically stolen Sony's market and swagger, so it's a double deja vu. What does all this mean? It basically means that this so called next generation of gaming is an expensive HD version of the PS2.

And yet the inexpensive Wii gets all the stick. Madness.

"will it still be popular in 2 years?. No way. You can use any metric you want, sales, advertising, comments, whatever it pleases you. Sales and popularity is steadily dropping since xmas launch."

What planet are you living on my friend?

The Wii was just named CNETs #1 must have item. Consumer interest in Wii is double and triple that of 360 and PS3 at the same time in their respective launches and it's RISING.

From Next Gen Biz

"The results of PriceGrabbers’ study showed that despite rising by 127% in the six weeks since launch, searches for PlayStation 3 are less rife than they were for Wii and Xbox 360 consoles during their respective post-launch periods. In the same post-launch period, Wii searches increased by 579% while Xbox console searches increased by 250%.."

I think you're the one that needs to face reality. I can't speak to 2 years from now, maybe the Wii will fall flat, but it's certainly not happening now, in fact, it's just the opposite.

As for Mandelbaum123, you have some great observations, don't let haters like azrael tell you otherwise.

@ IMOK,

Thanks for posting that. You've put into words successfully what I attempt to do failingly.

I'm just amused that the Wii isn't the second coming of Jesus that everyone said it was going to be prior to its release.

I just wish the Wii had games coming out that I was looking forward to. I am so freaking burned out on Mario that I actually get angry when I see his face.

It seems like Summa is the ONLY staffer that writes about the Wii. Why is that?