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FPS controller integrates mouse control on console photo

Here's an interesting bit of kit being shown off at Tokyo Game Show. This is the FragFX 2, designed by SplitFish. It's a PS3 controller designed for FPS games which provides the benefits of a mouse. Note the nunchuk-like apparatus on the left end, the plastic mousepad (which may or may not be attached to the nunchuk; it's unclear from the photo) and the four Playstation buttons along the thumb-side of the mouse.

Somewhat surprising to me is that there's some criticism of the device coming out. Ian Dean of Playstation World Magazine has been quoted saying, "It defeats the point of playing on console, really. If you want to use a mouse and keyboard play COD4 on a PC, the PS3 pad is perfectly set-up to play FPS." He goes on to suggest that, "it's a gimmick few PS3 owners really want." 

I can understand the concern from console players that the introduction of this peripheral could unbalance play, as we all know the advantages of using a mouse in an FPS game. That said, I don't want to play Call of Duty 4 or any other FPS on my PC. That's why I own consoles. Just because I play my games on consoles does not mean that I would not prefer to play these titles with the control scheme best suited to doing so.

There are a few questions I have about it, though. If the device works as it is being touted, would you consider buying one to step up your game? Could this sort of thing create a bit of an arms race as people attempt to maintain equal footing? Or, alternately, could it hurt the FPS space by limiting the number of players interested in playing with people who might have an advantage simply because of their controller?

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TheNakedAnt's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:15
TheNakedAnt
It doesn't look real comfy...

Besides, I like a controller in my hand when I'm playing on a console!
keener's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:24
keener
fck yes i would buy this. make one for the 360 though... i want to play shooters with OTHER PEOPLE too.
Dr Milkdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:29
Dr Milkdad
WASDWASDWASDWASDWASDWASDWASDWASD FTW!!
Toad's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:29
Toad
As RonBurgandy2010 said, this is old news. Which I guess makes my comment old news... *head implode*
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:30
Gameboi
Dean is kind of right, but he is not taking into consideration that console owners like consoles for their ease of use, and lack of a constant need to upgrade hardware per game.

I'd consider buying it for the PS3 or 360.
gitrooman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:32
gitrooman
Its crap. I purchased the first FragFX controller, and it was the worst investment i made all year. Stay away.
Too Much Coffee Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:36
Too Much Coffee Man
@RonBurgandy2010 @Toad

it's not old news. You're probably thinking of the FragFX which this isn't. this is the FragFX 2.

also the original FragFX sucked. Unless they dramatically improved on it, it's a total waste of money.
Dao2-SKP's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:39
Dao2-SKP
Yah I fail to see how that...STICK...thing is better then a keyboard?
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:44
Danmartigan
If I wanted to play games with a mouse and keyboard I would play PC games. But I sit at a computer all day so I will take the 360 gamepad thank you kindly.
Cube's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 20:56
Cube
The games are not programmed to handle a real mouse thosands of x y postions.

it just uses the lam ass defualt analog sticks far less precise X,y postions that do not even come close to the numbers a REal. mouse can track. and just turns the thing into a lame hand held cheep huge ass analog stick, that already sucked balls and now it sucks even more.

and we are talking cheep ass mice not the expensive leser models with ultra tracking at the microscopic level either.



buy a PC not this snap on crap, so console people can pretend they have a real PC with the crappy console ports of games like orange box or call of duty 4 or bioshock ut3 whatever, it just makes you look sad.



http://www.razerzone.com/c-2-gaming-mice.aspx
Brian Keljore's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 21:01
Brian Keljore
This idea has potential, now let's see how well it works.
Phantom Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 21:28
Phantom Spaceman
@Cube: I cracked up when I read "...do not even come close to the numbers a REal. mouse can track...". I have an image in my head of an exchange between some dude with $5 ball mouse, and another guy with the Razermouse Annihilator 9000 whipping it out ala Crocodile Dundee: "That's not a mouse, THIS is a mouse!"
Palidi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 21:39
Palidi
Seriously, i'm just surprised the first one did well enough to warrant a second model.
allisonaxe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 21:40
allisonaxe
as a lefty, I use the mouse in my left hand... so yay, another specialty mouse/controller that I can't use!
LoweSox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 21:41
LoweSox
I think it's intuitive. Especially now that a console like the PS3 is just using USB ports anyway, why not just start porting keyboard-and-mouse games to the next-gen consoles?

I almost bought Civilization: Revolutions, and then I played Civ IV. Not even a contest -- and I wish I could play it as it is on a console.

Open up the hardware; design consoles that double as power-PCs. Everyone's happy.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 21:55
Sharpless
*readies a "PC elitist douchefucks" comment*

*decides it's too easy*
RJG's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 21:58
RJG
So much for "PC elitism". Playing an FPS with a controller is like playing a racing game with a keyboard. It's a goddamn stupid idea.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 22:00
Sharpless
@RJG
In your opinion. I happen to prefer it. But you already knew that it's just a matter of personal preference, right?
ninjikiran's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 22:11
ninjikiran
I would consider buying this as a PC add on for FPS games. Why? Analog control for movement is better and more accurate then WASD while the mouse is more accurate then a second analog stick for aiming thus you get the best of both worlds with this controller. It is quite unfortunate they don't have a PC driver yet.
somesthetic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 22:11
somesthetic
I've used the original FragFX and it works pretty good for Call of Duty 4. It really just depends on the controller setup on the FPS for whether it will translate over well.

the really odd thing is that it's totally busted with the web browser.
harrmonica's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 23:08
harrmonica
"if you want to use a mouse and keyboard play COD4 on a PC."

why didn't i think of this??? oops, perhaps its the price difference between a console and new pc to keep up w/ game requirements every few years...
Cube's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 23:12
Cube
Ive tried a lot of mice from razor.

Laser tracking mice are like going from the ball mice of the early 1990's to the now standard optical mice.

I mean if sombody was using a track ball mouse these days at like quake con or something I would give them one of the razor mice I do not use anymore or liked that much, like the razor dimondback that has been retried to the pathetic job of " the ps3 web browser mouse", and say just croc dundee lines, followed by what the hell are you doing?.

then i would be amzaed that such a relic of a ball mouse is still working after all this time the last time I saw a ball mouse starcraft was the hot new game.
Respectable Gentleman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 23:37
Respectable Gentleman
It's almost to good to be true. I want to try it to see if it's the real deal. I do think it may be a little unfair though. Although... It may make a Diablo 3 console port more probable. Get on it Blizzard. I want to give you my money.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 23:48
mistic
lets hope it plays better then its predecessor :-p

thing is those games are designed to be played with a controller, not a mouse, so I doubt the controls will be as precise as you would expect from a mouse... Another issue I have is the size of the 'mousepad' it seems pretty small to me tbh...
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 00:13
Dexter345
It won't work, because console FPSs are built for the dual analog setup. The developers would have to build their game with a mouse in mind, at least as an option.
fykdig's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 00:37
fykdig
only first person shooter thats any fun is the shareware doom
Squeewupiwupi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 01:28
Squeewupiwupi
I've had my computer since before the gamecube came out and i'm still playing games like Team Fortress 2 and CoD4 fine, I will NEVER understand why people think you need a 3,000 rig to play any PC game. A $600 PC today will buy you a computer that will run CoD4/Team Fortess 2/WoW/Starcraft 2/Diablo 3 just fine.

The BRAND NEW ATi videocards only cost 75 bucks for crying out loud.
ninjikiran's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 02:20
ninjikiran
@Dexter345

The mouse functions as the second Analog stick(as in the calls it sends to the PS3). Thus why it was created otherwise it would be useless for every game but UT3.
indigoinc's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 05:08
indigoinc
I own one of the original FragFX PS3 models, and it works decently well. A lot of fine tuning in the game is needed, but after a hour of control tuning I was nailing headshots in UT3 like I was on my PC. Some games work well for it, some don't, but almost all FPS games work just like I want them to.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:14
Holyetheline
This is pretty cool... It'd be interesting to see if this controller catches on. I probably won't ever get one though. But all the PC gamers who are stuck on their mice for FPS might open up and buy an actual console because of something like this.
Cube's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 12:10
Cube
No, I would not play a FPs on console even if it had a mouse since the console ports suck and look damn ungly.

Bioshock and call of duty 4 orage box what ever, looks like low res blury crap, and are missing tons of crap and

online performace is always total junk and call of duty 4 only on consoles supports 18 players online while the PC version supports 32 or 64 and has far better online play.

Oh and don't evne get me started on UT3 on consoles, even with the ps3 mouse support it is at least $40 slower, runs at a low res, and has framerate issues.

and the xbox 360 version is even worse than the ps3 version since it don't even have a damn mouse.



So no I don't care if consoles ever get a mouse since they lack tons of crap in other areas, and do not have the power to provide a good port of the real PC games.


and there exclusive console fps play like 10 year old PC fps, and look like a 5 year old PC games.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:02
mix
I would like to try it out but I highly doubt I would buy one blindly.
Veidt's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 15:22
Veidt
DO FUCKING WANT.

On 360.

In a more comfy design.

...actually, just let us use a keyboard, a mouse, and USB support with button mapping in the dashboard.

We'd be happy then.
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