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Forbes: PS3 Slim is too little, too late photo

When the PS3 Slim was announced, I had one major feeling: Relief. I was glad that it was over, and the endless chatter about price cuts and retail listings could finally end. Forbes isn't relieved, however. Playing the role of the cynical dissenter, its official stance is that the announcement of the Slim and the price cuts is simply too little, too late.

"Now Sony's latest move, slashing the PlayStation3's price by $100 to $299 and offering a thinner version of the ginormous console, has almost no hope of making a difference," argues writer Brian Caulfield. "That's because Sony's technology-packed console will remain more expensive than either the Xbox 360, which starts at less than $200 and the Wii, which sells for $250.

"Not a good place to be, with price cuts for those consoles almost surely on the way. And while Sony's offering is packed with expensive technology, it's the least mature where it matters most: motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming."

Ouch. Harsh words from Caulfield, and whether you think he's talking out of his arse or not, he raises a point I had considered myself. Just how much good will the price cut do? A short-term sales spike is inevitable, but what happens after that? And what of the Xbox 360 and Wii price cuts that are sure to come? We'll have to wait and see what the future holds, but I certainly don't envy the PS3's position.








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Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:40
Justice
DtoidSlim is totally in though!
phantomile's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:42
phantomile
I think they're right. The 360 has already had multiple price cuts, and the PS3 is still the most expensive console by $100. The might be doing BETTER, but they're still not doing well.
Jesus H Christ's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:43
Jesus H Christ
DToid slim is even uglier than PS3 slim!
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:43
Holyetheline
Yeah DtoidSlim... it's weirdly slim.
TheBigFeel's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:45
TheBigFeel
I won't be happy until DtoidSLIM has backwards compatibility with the Genesis
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:45
Bulkmailer
What the hell?
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:45
Takeshi
Hahahaha! LMAO! Dtoid Slim is amazing.
bastardmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:46
bastardmaster
cant believe they cut the forums from the ps3 slim
Infamy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:46
Infamy
Seriously, he's right. Microsoft has countered everything Sony has done very effectively thus far, and this is pretty much the last thing fanboys can use as an excuse PS3's favor because now it's $100 cheaper. Microsoft doesn't even have to act now; they can wait until Spring and onwards and still have an extremely strong holiday season.
Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:47
Krow
"motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming."

Ehr.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:48
Danmartigan
dtoid slim is too slim.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:48
Havoc Fang
Forbes has a point. But, if amazon almost going out-of-stock from pre-orders on day two and having to put up certain rules on selling them is anything to go by, the sales spike will do Sony a world of good.
Arch649's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:49
Arch649
I'll be getting one. The original PS3, not the slim.
Tralfmadoria's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:51
Tralfmadoria
I don't agree that the PS3 is the least mature when it comes to online gaming, but this article does raise a good point I hadn't considered. I hope the price cut isn't too little, too late, but it's just one of those things we will have to sit back and observe as events progress.
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:55
Kaspar
Nice touch.
D Sane's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 17:58
D Sane
can we switch back to dtoid phat?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:01
Tubatic
DtoidSlim is not backward compatible. No sale.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:02
Daxelman
DToid Slim for not-iPhones with not sucky 3G?
EightBitMav's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:03
EightBitMav
Dtoid slim does nothing but confuse me.

AND ENRAGE ME.
peachboy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:05
peachboy
i know i for one have been waiting for any sort of price cut and i'll definitely be grabbing one sometime soon (likely a slim, they are quite hot). i dont think the price cuts will save them by any means, but the fact that there's a little less room between them and the 360 when people reach for their wallets certainly can't hurt. who knows, maybe this plus some decent exclusives will give them a good enough bump financially to get them on the right track.
ExpertPenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:07
ExpertPenguin
I lold @ dtoid slim.
mastashake714420's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:11
mastashake714420
shit its like forbes is pissing in my party cup
Gyrael's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:12
Gyrael
I'd like to dtoid HER slim.
HiddenAHB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:13
HiddenAHB
DtoidSlim scare the fuck out of me.
Just like the PS3 Slim.
Stahlbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:17
Stahlbrand
Forbes things MS will put in more price cuts? I don't know about that, how much cheaper could they make the 360?

Also I can't wait for this motion control fad to be over with.

I was tempted by the price cut on the PS3 for a few minutes, but I don't think I really need both consoles this generation, better to just put the cash into my computer. But if I didn't already own a 360, I would have a real choice to make between the two.
nailerr's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:22
nailerr
Lack of motion support is not hurting Xbox, lack of on-line is not hurting Wii soooo... No. Bad Forbes.

Hard to argue with the price bit though.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:23
Y0j1mb0
Unfortunately DtoidSlim doesn't support Linux like DtoidPhat.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:25
Magesx
"it's the least mature where it matters most: motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming."

Hey, how about this. Fuck you.
JLanphear's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:27
JLanphear
Wow, this is one of the most ignorant analyst comments I think I've ever read. Forbes really needs to start checking who's writing for them more.

First off, motion control being an important of maturation? Give me a break. It's a tiny fad that has only helped the Wii to become a gimmick machine relying on those too lazy to actually work out.

Online gaming. Sure, it's immensely important in this day and age, and I think the PS3 is doing fine on this front, considering the Wii has little no online gaming to speak of, and the 360 charges to play online. Whereas the PS3 has free wireless online gaming. Please. . .

As far as price cuts are concerned, Nintendo has already established several times that the Wii will not be seeing a price cut any time soon as the system still sells incredibly well, and as long as that money keeps coming in, they're not gonna stop it. Then there's the fact that the 360 "starts at $200". Well, lets not care about the fact that the 360 SKU that starts at $200 requires a massive investment after the fact to do what the PS3 can do straight out of the box.

Just think about that for a while, moronic Forbes writer, and see if you even deserve to have your coveted job anymore.
Vedicardi2's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:30
Vedicardi2
I'd buy it if it were backwards compatible.
DarkMagic56's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:31
DarkMagic56
Dtoid Slim still have no HD cables. >(
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:34
Vanilla Gorilla
1) Fuck Forbes
2) There is no better time to slash a beefy console's price tag than before the holiday rush
3) Fuck Forbes
4) Shouldn't Forbes be off in their little corporate elitist clique that is in their own little reality that is out of touch with everything else?
5) Fuck Forbes
6) Since when is "motion-sensitive controllers" and "online gaming" the only thing gamers care about? (Coming from an elitist corporate entity who probably can't even beat the first level of Pac Man)
7) Fuck Forbes
Your Moms Hot Lover's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:36
Your Moms Hot Lover
I can tell you this. I'll be getting a PS3 slim now. I wouldn't buy one before. Why? Because regardless of what the other consoles are doing $299 is the sweetspot for me - it is now a really compelling value proposition.

Forbes is assuming an either or mentality - which is pretty dumb. I think there are going to be a lot of 360 gamers who will now also pick up a PS3. Especially considering the longer life cycle of this generation and if the current trends in exclusive PS3 games go, well, they are just getting better and better.

And don't forget those gazillion PS2 players out there. The ones who don't comment on gaming message boards. For every one gamer who comments there are probably 100 of those people.

Time will tell, but Forbes can go suck it frankly.
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:37
bobyoko
i think jim's the only one looking forward to this release. you dirty little fanboy
Jack of Arcades's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:38
Jack of Arcades
You have to have some kind of weird logic to think the PS3's problem are a lack of motion control or online.

I'm not sure I agree about the price point. Mostly because the 360 Arcade has never, ever appealed to me. How can you run a 360 on 256 mb of flash memory? Is there a significant group of people who have bought the 360 arcade and continually pay $60 on new games that they can't get updates on? Not to mention how little you can use XBL.

Should Sony just make a neutered version of the slim with no HD and price it at 200 bucks?
Knightfall's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:39
Knightfall
How can they claim PS3 is less mature than the Wii at online gaming?
How can they claim the PS3 is less mature than the Xbox 360 at motion controls?
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:39
mix
Hyundai VS Honda

Seeing as Hyundais are so cheap and start @ $7,000 Honda should pack their bags up and close shop.

I think this price point is Perfect for the PS3 as a standard Blu-ray player starts around that price.
shogunu's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:40
shogunu
ZOMNG< MOAR ANTI_SONY BIAS JIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111
CHNGX's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:42
CHNGX
It's Funny how people simply dismiss the effect of a Price Cut on a Product that everyone is looking to get cheaper to get put some money in.

I meant is not like they are making cheap cos nobody one want one
it's moar liek it's cheaper so EVERYONE CAN HAVE ONE!.

If this is not the moment for sony to gain some moment, probably is not the last chance. Microsoft can be very bully at home but honest outside of USA people don't give a rat arse for that console. America is the great market sure nothing wrong with that, but the world is way bigger.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:45
ArrestedDeveloper
I don't think it's going to launch PS3 out of last place but it will help them.
Nathaniel607's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:52
Nathaniel607
@Knightfall

They are only saying those two have strong points, whereas the PS3 is shit online and has shit motion controls.

No need to worry, though! Sony are busy stealing Nintendo's ideas right now! One motion controller, coming up!
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:52
Black Nexus
seriously what was this guy thinking when he wrote this? hell was he thinking when he wrote this?
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:53
Midgetsnowman
I love all the screaming fans who suddenly decide an extremely prestigious financial magazine like forbes is clueless >_>
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:54
Emrah
Calling PS3's online functionality "least mature", with Wii in the list, makes the entire article a fail article.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:56
EdgyDude
I can sort of understand their point of view and yet can't help but feel they sound like ungrateful bastards. This part specially "...it's the least mature where it matters most: motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming...", sounds to me like bad preaching: motion controlz are da phuture LOL!1!one!.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:57
Niero
BUT THE BRU RAYS FORBES! THE BRUUUU RAAAAAAYSSSSSSSSSSSS ok I'm done
worm jerky's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 18:59
worm jerky
Nay! - said the naysayers!

Forbes can shut it. The price cut/slim is a good thing no matter how you slice it. Some people just like to be negative.
nailerr's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 19:02
nailerr
@Nathaniel607

It's annoying when people steal generic control methods, I know. Alfred Vacheron was pretty miffed when other cars started to use steering wheels I understand...
accidentprone88's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 19:10
accidentprone88
"It's the least mature where it matters most: motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming."

Oh dear lord. If those two factors are the greatest factors in making a successful console I quit video games.
Onlineatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2009 19:10
Onlineatron
I don't know how many times I've posted this after ignorant people say ignorant things.


1) The PS3 is only 7million behind 360

2) 360 released a year/year and a half before depending where you live

3) The 360 is cheaper

4) Microsoft releases numbers shipped instead of sold so the gap could be smaller


THE PS3 IS DOING JUST FINE!
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