So rape games=bad.

Games with nude 10 year olds=ok?

WHO ELSE BUT JAPAN?

As far as fighting the good fight goes, this isn't one of them.

@Nanbu - One step at a time.

At first I was against this being I was picturing just H-games, but if this is really rape then it should be banned.

Japan ban rape games? They might as well ban giant robots and generic emo-hair RPG protagonists.

So graphic murder is A-OK, but games involving rape aren't?

I mean, im not outraged or anything, but why not just put a warning label on it and sell it only to adults

WARNING, CONTAINS: RAPE.

I'm all about freedom. So if someone wants to play or make these games more power to them. If I don't like them(and I don't) I won't buy them. End of story. It's not like anyone is getting raped in the process. It's a game.

Just want to reiterate that I can put a trashbag over someones head and strangle them to death in a game.

@ suborbital: you say that this isnt a good fight but you may be right in saying that rape is wrong. However rape games are not I say this not because I enjoy rape games but because it boils down to basic freedom of speech. Now you may come back at me saying that if it stops even one person from being raped then its a good thing well this is true if it actually stops anyone from being raped. however if banning it causes even one person to be rapped then your reasoning for banning it will have failed. Now I defend this because I believe that Freedom of speech is the most important rights anyone has. If you do not defend the indefensible one day the people who came after that will come after something you like something you want and you know what? you will have already lost.

Ideas taken mainly from here

http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/12/why-defend-freedom-of-icky-speech.html

Does this only apply to rape of humans? Because otherwise I'm going to have a hard time selling Ultimate Dinosaur Rape: The Simulation.

Now where am I supposed to get my rape fix now?!

@Monodi

Good Lord man! We had all ignored the fact that Rape games are Japan's Chief Export!

@Timstuff

Banning things does not make them go away. I think the bigger question is should we allow private bodies or government committees to censor/ban things. I'm a fairly liberal person, and therefore intervention into this sort of thing irks me. I agree rape is a bad thing, but there are many bad things in the world, and they do not all need to be banned.

The bottom line is, you (I assume from your vehement posting against any mention of this subject) and I never played these games previously, and regardless of the banning or not banning, will continue to not do so. However, once you start agreeing to censorship, you open a whole can of worms.

You also do not know whether taking this sort of thing off the market is going to have any effect on a persons ability to get hold of media of this nature, nor what effect removing it will have. Lets face it prohibition doesn't seem to work in any other area. As I said earlier, it's easy to add a 'consent' scene (which could be skippable, who knows).

So basically, I don't think anyone cares particularly about rape games being banned. I think people are concerned as to the effects of ceding more control to 'the man'.

Another victory for America.

Ok you people are fools you say well as long as its something I dont like or its something I think is wrong its ok to ban and get rid of these things. But you are not SEEING THE BIG PICTURE if they can just ban this then one day they will come for all sex games then all violent games and you know what YOU WONT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING TO STOP THEM WHY? because the law boards commities once they haVe precedent then their is nothing stopping them from legally banning anything that offends them or ANY OTHER GROUP.

The law is a huge blunt weapon not a scaple like you want it to be they take this then one day they WILL come for something you want. One time somewhere there will be a public outcry in response to some event alot of people will be angered alot of people will overreact. Then men and women on committies will decide that they have the power to appease the populace they will think of their careers they will think of re-election they will use that event that crisis to do something to subdue the panicy flawed humanbeings that we are.

You cannot and should not expect that the worlds to be rainbows, unicorns, and giggles its not it will never be. people will exploit anything they can to get what they want.

That is why you cannot say oh good they got rid of such and such because soon such and such will be something you like something you want and you will see the publics reaction as what it is overdone extreme and idiotic.

I can guarantee you that if the government had the power to ban a specific type of game when the tragic acts of columbine took place that violent fps would be banned and likly 3ps would be banned as well.

Child pornography has real implications on real children however a video game has no implications on its fake people their is a major difference between the two. Before you say that well even if its stops one person from being raped then it should be banned their is NO evidence that removing this sort of pornography has the desired effect. However Governments have noticed a spike in crimes against real people when they take moves to ban fake pornography.

In short child pornography is bad as it involves real children as is real rape but fake child pornography and fake rape are no where near the same level as their counterpart. I would rather rape games not exist but not because some group decides that it should be banned.

first how many porn corporations are actually responsible? Im not saying that its ok to "enjoy Chi ld por nography" Im saying child pornography is wrong is and should be illegal because they are real not fake. Its not an "anything goes mentality" oh I never said anything goes so dont put quotes on it like I did. What I am saying is this and simply this freedom of speech freedom of expression should not be stifled by some board by any government no matter what the medium. However we need laws to protect people and children from being exploited.

Now something I would like to pose to you a book is written it contains a great story and is hailed as a classic a must read but in the book the author describes vividly rape what would make this any different then a game? what would give this anymore reason to exist? and by the way its not a book its a comic.

@Timstuff

Your arguments are all emotive, and thats a dangerous place to be. You claim that people who fantasize about rape are the sickest and lowest people in society, maybe they are, I havent seen the rating scale, but where do they fit in next to mass murderers?? What about genocidal megalomaniacs?? Is the person who loads this software up instantly a worse person than hitler??

starhawl is genuinely concerned that giving control over this area of censorship could leak into other areas, other mediums, or other genres. And I have to say I agree with him.

Yes, in a perfect world this stuff would not exist, but I would wager that its only a small minority that actively seek it out. I would also wager that a far more vocal majority are keen on banning things, claiming it helps society.

These games have been available for years in Japan, and Im not aware of any problems they have caused, until overzealous media got involved and tried to preach emotive morality. You seem adamant you want a new set of controls in place to protect someone from something. But you have to consider where this could possibly lead.

I think this article and I guess the legislation should really be expanded to look at all video games. Why should any one government draw the line at this rapegame when there are so many others that advocate mass killing. That being said, I am sincerely tempted to try out this game, it sounds almost so ridiculous I can’t imagine it exists. I found an interesting discussion on the matter at Pandalous. It can be found here at http://www.pandalous.com/nodes/ban_on_violent_computer