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Flower doesn't need a demo, it just needs a trailer and a small price photo

What is Flower? That is the question many potential consumers -- outside of the blog loop -- may ask themselves before deciding to purchase the game. A demo seems like an easy fix. Not so fast, though. Kellee Santiago, president and co-founder of thatgamecompany, believes that a demo for Flower isn’t necessary.

In a recent reader response on the PlayStation blog, Santiago made her argument: “... I think the prices of downloadable games are so small that they kind of make demos unnecessary.” She then pointed out, “statistically they make a LOT less money when part of it is given away for free.”

Earlier last year, MTV Multiplayer broke down an EEDAR study about downloadable games sales. One of its findings substantiated Santiago’s thoughts. PlayStation Network and Xbox Live Arcade games with demos undersell games that only have a trailer.

I contacted Santiago for further explanation on her comment. “As I said in the post, though, when it comes down to it - why did I buy Ico for $30 without a demo?  Why did I buy Left 4 Dead for $50 without one?” she said. “Because I saw trailers, read some previews, and that was enough. “

Her comparison made me think. I didn’t bother with the L4D or Ico demos either. I saw trailers and made up my mind. “Why do I need more than that for something that is $8-$12?” she added.  “A burrito from La Salsa costs about $8.  Even if the game totally sucks, I'm not out that much cash.”








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The Prodigal Son's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 13:29
The Prodigal Son
I've got pretty high expectations for Flower given how neat Flow was. Hopefully they can capture that middle ground between hardcore and casual with this one.
the Golden Avatar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 13:30
the Golden Avatar
Who buys an $8 burrito?
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 13:33
Emrah
It is quite obvious that I would not have bought pain, the game that utter vile bull shit, if I had played 5 minutes of it. So he may be right about not providing a demo.

It is a disgrace to me, that it is top of the sales charts on PSN, one way or another.
monosylabik's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 13:40
monosylabik
I do golden avatar...I do.....

flower is a pretty basic concept that I don't think a demo is required at all. either you are sold on the concept or you are not and I am fucking sold! Give me the game already!
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 14:03
Kryptinite
Flower is going to be amazing. I hated Flow with a passion and Flower blows that game out of the water.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 14:14
Qraze
i'm gonna play this and i don't need a fucking demo to tell me what i already know, that this shit will rock.
ammoelf3's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 14:34
ammoelf3
I will be buying Flower for sure, and about PAIN topping the PSN chart might be because it was included as a free voucher in the MGS4 ps3 bundle, which is the one I got, and it's the only reason I have it. I've played it like once and hated it.
STUVNING's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 14:42
STUVNING
I played the demo of Ico and L4D before purchase(haven't gotten the latter yet but I will). And I hate when they don't release one be it retail or download.I rarely buy games without playing the demo beforehand. You will never get a feel for the gameplay through a video either.
doctorjones's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 14:52
doctorjones
Say what you will about Flower and Flow. I put Flow into my girlfriend's hands and she spent the next few nights messing around with that game and had a blast (factor?). I hope that Flower has the same kind of draw for her and she can once again connect on a deeper level with a game. Anytime that I can show others that there really are games for out there for everyone, you bet I will. Besides, it gives me time to play other games that she won't want to sit around and watch.
ninjikiran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 15:48
ninjikiran
Thats a reason why people fear innovative games. Don't get me wrong but theres alot of "sure bet" games that you could get for $10.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 15:58
Eschatos
I wonder, will Jenova Chen continue every game she releases by adding two letters to the name of the last one? Also, I played a demo at Wired Nextfest in November. The game is pretty fun but I don't see very much replay value for it.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 16:13
Qraze
people don't fear innovative games. publishers fear them.

and i personally hate demos. here is a nibble of a slice of a pizza. its like the tip of the iceberg, you only see 10% of it and if you don't like that 10%, you won't want to play or see the other 90%. i think most demos hurt the game if ain't that one good level. most aren't that one good level. i tried the skate2 demo, did not like it. i like the first skate but with this one i'm not into it so i most likely now won't get, due to a fucking demo. and that's why i don't like them, they can give the wrong impression that the whole game won't have.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2009 18:28
pascuz46
I really don't think this game will suck so I will spend the money and get it. I didn't need a demo for Linger In Shadows and that is a really kool game, I mean I know the thing is only 7 minutes long, but how long do you really think flower will be?
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2009 03:59
JustLikeBuck
It's a fair point. How many demos do we really play before getting the game?

If anything playing a demo delays my purchase of a game, because my thirst for it is quenched.

Other times a demo can make me even more undecided on a game. Valkyria Chronicles demo was good, but it was missing something that made me think I had to buy it.

After seeing it for £20 I thought, why not. Best descision of the year. The music, cutscenes, characters and story are all of what's missing from the demo.

Had there not been a demo, I probably would have picked it up on release for much more.
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2009 05:44
Noah
I downloaded the free demo of Puzzle Fighter on XBLA...which is pretty much a whole game, except you can only be Ken or Ryu....even has split screen. My wife and I have been playing it for at least an hour every night the past couple of weeks....it's basically a free game.

I feel bad about getting so much enjoyment out of what was meant to be a trial, so I'll likely pay the $10 for it soon
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2009 05:45
Noah
I'd rather have a demo of DLC than a cheap game....seems like a lot of DLC these days are a rip off...even if it's cheap
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2009 10:04
mix
@noah

Yeah I'm always hesitant to spend even $10 on a DLC game as you don't really know what you are getting into sometimes....
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