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@Macca: I would have never noticed that had you not said anything. Thanks for ruining Street Fighter for me.
Looks like Ryu has a boner, but then again, so do I. Can't blame him :D.
Yes, the graphics are a little weak at the moment, but the only thing standing out in my mind is that gameplay is going to be 2D, so I know their heads are in the right place, which is in getting the gameplay right. Graphics are second.
Yes, the graphics are a little weak at the moment, but the only thing standing out in my mind is that gameplay is going to be 2D, so I know their heads are in the right place, which is in getting the gameplay right. Graphics are second.
Lukich, I agree. It's good to hear that they're sticking with 2D gameplay. But Capcom's sprites have always been some of the best in the business -- Street Fighter III is still one of the most beautiful 2D games I've ever seen -- and it seems a real loss that they're not carrying on with it. I know it's cheaper, and I know most people will likely be happy, but -- man, after the beautiful animation in previous Capcom fighters, it makes me awfully sad to see 'em absent their flagship series now that it's finally made a return.
Aaron, I definitely agree with you there. All I'm saying is, if I have to accept the move to 3D, at least its only in the graphics department and they left the gameplay alone.
Some of you lot here are such sheep. If Destructoid says something you immediately agree with it. I reckon that it looks like it's going to try something a bit different and those screenshots show that Capcom is moving with the times and trying to enervate the the franchise.
Looks like art to me. Some of you need to get some perspecive - and your own POV.
Looks like art to me. Some of you need to get some perspecive - and your own POV.
To be honest, I'm not excited at all about this. The cover art for the new EGM looks like shit. One still shot, and a gimmick to sell their mag, also a shitty move. Capcom needs to cough a gameplay video, seriously.
If this is how the game is gonna be, count me out. 3rd Strike is where SF ended its legacy. I'm done.
If this is how the game is gonna be, count me out. 3rd Strike is where SF ended its legacy. I'm done.
I'm sure it will move beautifully, and the animation will be it's strength, but that art direction is fugly, what is happening to Capcom's artists? All their new games either looks like the cast from Max Steel or GI Joe.
I thought that with more power we would start to see graphics which looked more organic, loose and basically like the original concept art, but the dawn of HD gaming has seen graphics take a completely different direction - too much detail in the wrong places and beyond the field of vision which makes the entire game world lack depth, shiny plastic looking textures, and very conservative use of colours and styles. It's as if new art styles have been outlawed.
I'm sure Capcom know what they are doing, and they are well aware of the direction they have decided to take with SF4, fair enough, I just really really don't like it. Looking through the excellent 'Capcom Design Works' book, only enhances my disappointment about the way SF4 has turned out.
I thought that with more power we would start to see graphics which looked more organic, loose and basically like the original concept art, but the dawn of HD gaming has seen graphics take a completely different direction - too much detail in the wrong places and beyond the field of vision which makes the entire game world lack depth, shiny plastic looking textures, and very conservative use of colours and styles. It's as if new art styles have been outlawed.
I'm sure Capcom know what they are doing, and they are well aware of the direction they have decided to take with SF4, fair enough, I just really really don't like it. Looking through the excellent 'Capcom Design Works' book, only enhances my disappointment about the way SF4 has turned out.
I always thought Street Fighter looked better in 2D, anyone remember how shite the EX games looked? But I do understand why Capcom have taken this route. In order for you're game to do well at retail, graphically, it has to fit in with pretty much everything else, be £d have bloom lighting etc etc
How many copies did Street Fighter III: Third Strike sell outside of Japan? Not as many as any of the 3D fighters I reckon.
How many copies did Street Fighter III: Third Strike sell outside of Japan? Not as many as any of the 3D fighters I reckon.
I guess they really are making Lego Batman. Surfer Girl predicted that too. Maybe she'll also end up being right about a Capcom character in Smash Bros.
It'd be nice if they put this game on Wii. Wii could definitely pull off those graphics.
It sounds like they're bringing back more older characters than they did it SF3. I hope Dan returns.
It'd be nice if they put this game on Wii. Wii could definitely pull off those graphics.
It sounds like they're bringing back more older characters than they did it SF3. I hope Dan returns.
looks great, cant wait to see more of the charecters and the whole thing in motion. looks like a step in the right direction with new graphics and a revampt 2D fighting system. might have to get me a 360...
ONE OF THE GREATEST IMAGES I'VE SEEN...WELL IN A LONG TIME!
Capcom appears to have reinvented the 2D Fighter and I say. IT'S ABOUT FREAKIN TIME! Just like Capcom did in 92 with SFII. They're doing it again in 2008. I predict future fighters will start to copy this new 2D engine style. I'm so looking forward to this I could cry.
Capcom appears to have reinvented the 2D Fighter and I say. IT'S ABOUT FREAKIN TIME! Just like Capcom did in 92 with SFII. They're doing it again in 2008. I predict future fighters will start to copy this new 2D engine style. I'm so looking forward to this I could cry.
I agree with Linde. While this picture does look very nice (and 2D FTW!), I can't help but be disappointed there aren't some high-res fully-animated sprites in the same vein as Odin Sphere's gorgeous visuals.
Optimism: Maybe it's an unlockable mode? Please? Pretty please?
Optimism: Maybe it's an unlockable mode? Please? Pretty please?
How can some of you not like this? Let me ask you haters. What were you expecting it to look like? Let's hear about this amazing SF game you created in your head.
Odin Sphere? That's how you wanted it to look? Like that cell shading shit? Some of you guys are boring!
Damn if only it looked more like Naruto. So I could be bored to tears
Some of guys don't think out of the box do you? You want the same shit every year apparently. Give SFIV a chance! You haven't even seen it action yet. How dare Capcom try something new. I wish it looked like SFIII from ten years ago, whaa!!!
Some of guys don't think out of the box do you? You want the same shit every year apparently. Give SFIV a chance! You haven't even seen it action yet. How dare Capcom try something new. I wish it looked like SFIII from ten years ago, whaa!!!
@ Orionsaint
All the characters in Odin Sphere are highly-rendered 2D sprites...just like what Capcom is trying to do with Super Street Fighter II Turbo: HD Remix. That's not cel-shading. What I'm saying is take those high-res sprites and give them fluid animation. Expand upon what SFIII did, if you will. There's an opportunity to do new things with 2D here now that consoles have all this additional power, and it seems like Capcom is letting this chance go to waste in favor of (admittedly-stylized) cel-shaded 3D.
All the characters in Odin Sphere are highly-rendered 2D sprites...just like what Capcom is trying to do with Super Street Fighter II Turbo: HD Remix. That's not cel-shading. What I'm saying is take those high-res sprites and give them fluid animation. Expand upon what SFIII did, if you will. There's an opportunity to do new things with 2D here now that consoles have all this additional power, and it seems like Capcom is letting this chance go to waste in favor of (admittedly-stylized) cel-shaded 3D.
What's with the new comment headings? I really don't need three robots on every comment I make, it looked a lot better before.
Yup, Ryu is fugly allright. And to be honest I can't imagine enjoing a 3D fighter limited oly to 2D movement pattern...:/
I'm kinda anxious to see Chun Lee.
I'm kinda anxious to see Chun Lee.
Ouch. What a let down. Based of that teaser trailer from a while back, I though SFIV was to be the first game to take cel-shading next gen, to a level where "painter"-shading would be a more appropriate label.
Just look at this still from that trailer. I've never seen a cel-painted animated film this detailed.
That would have been an original look, while staying true to SF's 2D roots. Why did Capcom dump that direction in favor of this? SFIV should have more to it visually than "Generic 3D fighter, plus bloom lighting".
Well, it's early yet. Maybe they get that "painter-shader" up and running before the game is done.
If not, I'll probably just sit this one out.
Just look at this still from that trailer. I've never seen a cel-painted animated film this detailed.
That would have been an original look, while staying true to SF's 2D roots. Why did Capcom dump that direction in favor of this? SFIV should have more to it visually than "Generic 3D fighter, plus bloom lighting".
Well, it's early yet. Maybe they get that "painter-shader" up and running before the game is done.
If not, I'll probably just sit this one out.
"high-res sprites and give them fluid animation. Expand upon what SFIII did, if you will."
NexCros don't limit your thinking. That's yesterdays news. It's been done before. Who says this game isn't in high-res and has fluid animation. Capcom is trying something that's never been done before in a fighter. Give it a chance. You haven't even seen it in motion. Also, I'm not a big fan of SFIII, not the gameplay or look. I was actually disappointed by it. It one of the most anticlimatic game releases ever for me.
NexCros don't limit your thinking. That's yesterdays news. It's been done before. Who says this game isn't in high-res and has fluid animation. Capcom is trying something that's never been done before in a fighter. Give it a chance. You haven't even seen it in motion. Also, I'm not a big fan of SFIII, not the gameplay or look. I was actually disappointed by it. It one of the most anticlimatic game releases ever for me.
I think it looks good. I agree that they are kind of missing an opportunity to do some awesome stuff with 2d, and it's not as cool looking as the teaser (though maybe it's a super move effect or something), but it still looks pretty good.
I'm NOT a fan of the new (old?) character designer though. I prefer the art style of SF3 and what Udon does. I just want to see this thing in motion though. I'm excited.
I'm NOT a fan of the new (old?) character designer though. I prefer the art style of SF3 and what Udon does. I just want to see this thing in motion though. I'm excited.
as long as it plays like street fighter and is in 2d i couldnt care less about how it looked.... but now that i know my well endowed fighter will be back to rape in 3d/2d type oddnesss im ready to throw down........... *waiting for SF4*
I too am disappointed by Capcom not building on SFIII like I was hoping, as we need 2D games to keep that art choice alive. However, I'll give Capcom a chance to impress me yet, its too early to judge this game on one shot. Roll on SSF2THD first and I'll come back to this.
Don't forget, 3d gaming on a 2d plain is very Viewtiful Joe, and that game was a new hit too. There's no reason why SFIV couldn't work out to be just as good if not better than the VJ games, and still have that classic SF gameplay intact.
I know about those PS1/2 SF EX Alpha games, since I own them. Those games were luke warm at best and I hope to god Capcom have learned their lessons. What does worry me, is the fact that 3d graphics can cut the kind of fast gameplay SF needs for harder settings (something 2d games don't have a problem with), and also that this game is being handled by Capcom USA, and not Capcom Japan. SSF2T is one thing, but SFIV I don't know.
Have patience, all will become clear soon enough. Also don't forget Capcom will be watching the popularity of SSF2THD, and SFIV once both are out, they'll know which gamers prefer and hopefully learn from that info.
Don't forget, 3d gaming on a 2d plain is very Viewtiful Joe, and that game was a new hit too. There's no reason why SFIV couldn't work out to be just as good if not better than the VJ games, and still have that classic SF gameplay intact.
I know about those PS1/2 SF EX Alpha games, since I own them. Those games were luke warm at best and I hope to god Capcom have learned their lessons. What does worry me, is the fact that 3d graphics can cut the kind of fast gameplay SF needs for harder settings (something 2d games don't have a problem with), and also that this game is being handled by Capcom USA, and not Capcom Japan. SSF2T is one thing, but SFIV I don't know.
Have patience, all will become clear soon enough. Also don't forget Capcom will be watching the popularity of SSF2THD, and SFIV once both are out, they'll know which gamers prefer and hopefully learn from that info.
People writing the game off as a POS after seeing one screen from what's probably an early build? Shocked!
Oh wait, no I'm not. People are burnt.
Oh wait, no I'm not. People are burnt.
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