Got news?   tips@destructoid.com  |  Never miss a story:   RSS + Twitter + YouTube
Hey! New here? Destructoid is a gaming discussion community, updated nearly every 20 minutes. Make a quick avatar to comment and enter our contests. Take the tour!

 


Home Rare updates

First gameplay footage of Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts

11:31 AM on 05.13.2008, Chad Concelmo 156 comments

     Rare

So, Nuts & Bolts – I guess that is the official name now. Let’s all pour out a 40 for Banjo-Threeie. I think we all secretly wanted it to be called that.

Let me just save you all the trouble and yell out a collective “ARGH!” If you are like me, you are more than confused by the strange new direction this upcoming Banjo-Kazooie sequel (?) is taking. I was more excited than words for it as of last week, but after seeing the leaked screens and now this gameplay trailer ... I just don’t know.

I am going to give Rare the benefit of the doubt, though, and not pass judgment until I can get my hands on the game. And I have to say, I love the music. Like, a lot.

But then there is the very questionable framerate. And the overly busy graphics. And that strange new look for Grunty. And the seemingly heavy focus on vehicular combat. What is vehicular combat doing in my Banjo-Kazooie game? For every little thing I like (it looks like Mumbo Jumbo is back!) there seems to be five things I don’t.

And what the heck is up with Banjo and Kazooie blasting the head off that Mario structure at the end of the trailer? That is just effed up and seriously weird.

What do you all think? Am I just being overdramatic because I was hyping the game up too much, or do I really have cause for concern? Don’t mess up my precious baby, Rare! Please.


Next page: More Does it suck? stories




Jetsetlemming's Avatar
Jetsetlemming at 05/13/2008 11:31
Oh my good lord DO WANT. That looks amazing. Standard Banjo platform adventure + cart racing/combat + lego style building vehicles? Epic.
CronosBlade's Avatar
CronosBlade at 05/13/2008 11:32
PROTIP - The MArio is actually a vehicle that was constructed LOL.

Apparently from the impressions I'm reading all over the place, you can tackle missions in different ways depending on the vehicle you build.

Also the multiplayer sounds sweet with races and king of the hill style games.

I'm making the penismobile day 1.
Spore's Avatar
Spore at 05/13/2008 11:32
No no no! Ech, vehicles. Do not want. Just let me transform into some animal like the good ol' days. ):
Lime's Avatar
Lime at 05/13/2008 11:32
God DAMN it, Rare. I don't like the look of this. At all.
Alpha 87655320875's Avatar
Alpha 87655320875 at 05/13/2008 11:34
I'm with you Chad. The confusing direction of this game is really making me fearful for this title as well.

BTW: Why the hell is Mario in this game?
ZombiePlatypus's Avatar
ZombiePlatypus at 05/13/2008 11:36
Rare has some pent up issues with Nintendo, eh?
bmdubya's Avatar
bmdubya at 05/13/2008 11:36
I'm excited for this game. I just hope that you can turn into other animals again. I loved running around as a baby T-Rex in Banjo-Tooie...I think.
power-glove's Avatar
power-glove at 05/13/2008 11:39
Here is some more info on the game from the GH4 issue of Game Informer.

Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts (360)
- RARE says they didn't want to make a hi res version of the old Banjo platformer.
- You create vehicles with parts you find around the levels.
- GI says their first vehicles was a 4 wheeled kart with a spring attached to the bottom that allowed them to jump things. They later found a helicopter blade that allowed their kart to fly. Later they added balloons to the vehicle and put the blade on the back and created a hovercraft.
- RARE showed them a vehicle that was a monster truck that was able to detach its chasis to become a mini bike. When the bike ramped off a cliff it revealed collapsible glider wings and started flying.- There will be 1,600 parts including weapons that you'll be able to attach to the vehicles.
- The town is called Showdown Town.
- GI says that despite the large focus on vehicles it still features platform elements from the previous games like traditional platforming, tight rope walking and jiggy piece collecting.
- Showdown Town is 16 times larger than anything RARE has created before.
- Every level has a different intro. Nutty Acres begins with a credits spoof of 80's soap opera's like Dallas.- Note collecting is back and will act has currency that'll allow you to bu vehicle blueprints.
- RARE says there are 15 different challenges spread across 6 different levels. There will also be side missions.

This game will be vastly different than previous entries in the series.
DonWii's Avatar
DonWii at 05/13/2008 11:39
"What is vehicular combat doing in my Banjo-Kazooie game?"

My thoughts exactly.
njsykora's Avatar
njsykora at 05/13/2008 11:43
I'm scared for this game now, Rare get benefit of the doubt though because they're Rare. It does at least look like there will be traditional platforming in there though.
zoraboy's Avatar
zoraboy at 05/13/2008 11:46
@razerangel
graphically it looks really good actually. I saw it on my hd tv this morning and it looked fantastic
Boolean's Avatar
Boolean at 05/13/2008 11:49
I get the feeling this game is trying to do too many things at once. Is it a platformer, a racing game, a mario kart game, a twisted metal game, an adventure game, a puzzle game, a soccer game, a collection of minigame games? It seems like they couldn't make up their mind so they just tried to do everything.
covah's Avatar
covah at 05/13/2008 11:50
So the last clip of that trailer is Banjo and Kazooie blowing off Mario's head... way to bite the hand that feeds.

Anyways, FUCK THIS VEHICLE SHIT. Now, I don't mind it, but I don't care how much Rare tells GI that theres going to be the standard platforming stuff, it looks like platforming is just going to be an afterthought.
Scape's Avatar
Scape at 05/13/2008 11:51
It looks pretty cool how parts of the main vehicle can detach to form new vehicles, like the glider thing in the trailer. I don't know about this vehicle focus though..looks like you may be in it for a good part of the game.
Morrius's Avatar
Morrius at 05/13/2008 11:54
Good? Bad? Both?

No idea.
Rucksack's Avatar
Rucksack at 05/13/2008 11:54
What the fuck was that?
Jim Sterling's Avatar
Jim Sterling at 05/13/2008 11:57
Basically, this game is frightening because it's got Banjo and Kazooie in it? If it was an original IP would it be less scary?

Speaking as someone who never played the original games, I'm down with it. Looks original and weird, and if there's one thing the 360 needs, it's something original and brightly colored.
Ashley Davis's Avatar
Ashley Davis at 05/13/2008 11:57
Argh. My fears seem to be coming true. I just wanted some good old fashioned platforming.. sigh. Though the extra information that power-glove provides sounds interesting, I can't help but feel a little disappointed. And the name! Ugh. I am really curious about the role all of the returning characters will play in a game like this.. are we going to traverse the inside of Clanker with a boat?

All that aside, I knew the soundtrack would be awesome, at least.. Grant Kirkhope is a magical musical man.
PetiePal's Avatar
PetiePal at 05/13/2008 11:58
Plenty of reason for concern. I had a lot of skepticism when I heard Rare was taking Banjo to the 360 instead of staying Nintendo. A lot of possibilities both good and bad can come from this. This is probably an early video anyways, and they've got a LOT of work to do, but I hope the graphics aren't anywhere near finalized. The N64 versions look better than this if so...Hell we've seen what they can do with Conker...and that was only the XBox.
Mister Disco's Avatar
Mister Disco at 05/13/2008 11:59
Well, looks like this will be one of the odd cases where I enjoy something because I've never played the series. From an outside perspective, this game looks fucking sweet and I can't figure out what everyone's whining about. Then again, that's coming from someone who has never played any of the previous 'Banjo' titles. I suppose if they turned Fire Emblem into a Kart Racer I'd be upset, too.

No, wait actually that could be pretty sweet.

Anyway, guys, my point is, even if this isn't what you were hoping for in a 'Banjo' sequel, doesn't it look fun? How can making your own custom vehicles and racing/jumping/flying/blowing shit up with them not look fun? I totally understand where you guys are coming from with the "this isn't the game I wanted" rap. But, can you step outside of your expectations for a minute and see that this could be really awesome? A rose by any other name, right?
galagabug 's Avatar
galagabug at 05/13/2008 12:00
i have no attachment to the previous games, but the kart creation to solve puzzles element looks like it could be a lot of fun!
Zanch's Avatar
Zanch at 05/13/2008 12:01
What's everyone so damn worried about? This looks excellent.
superezekiel's Avatar
superezekiel at 05/13/2008 12:01
They were right, it really doesn't look like any other platformer out there!

It looks like fucking Twisted Metal.

HOPPING, AND BOPPING. I see NONE of that. This doesn't seem to have a chance in hell of being better than Mario Galaxy, or anywhere close to it.
urbanyeti's Avatar
urbanyeti at 05/13/2008 12:02
But I don't want something radically different. I want good old fashioned Banjo-Kazooie! And that Mario thing? What the hell Rare? WHAT THE HELL?

I just lost so much excitement for this game. I think I'll fire up the old N64 and play some Banjo-Tooie.
Corak's Avatar
Corak at 05/13/2008 12:02
I'm with Jim on this one so far. Its probably because I never played the originals that this looks somewhat interesting. Not sure its a "must have" for me, but it looks decent. I doubt I'll buy it, but it might be worth a rent.
Spore's Avatar
Spore at 05/13/2008 12:03
You know you can already buy this game for 10 dollars off of Steam. It is called Garry's Mod.
Eques-Ardor's Avatar
Eques-Ardor at 05/13/2008 12:08
DO NOT WANT

Epic franchise breaking.
cbebop007's Avatar
cbebop007 at 05/13/2008 12:09
I...I just don't know how to feel regarding that Mario thing. Just...really? Really?

Making vehicles could be fun. $60 worth of fun? Doubtful.
Professor Pew's Avatar
Professor Pew at 05/13/2008 12:09
Still do not want.
viralhunter's Avatar
viralhunter at 05/13/2008 12:11
my childhood has just been haloized
blu3steel's Avatar
blu3steel at 05/13/2008 12:12
This looks like Microsoft's attempt at "ratchet and clank for the 360." Bright colors, lots of moving parts etc.

Even so, having played the other Banjo Kazooie games I think that this game looks like it could be fun. I didn't expect vehicular combat, but I'm not crying about it. Calm down people.
Mave's Avatar
Mave at 05/13/2008 12:15
It's definitely different than expected, but I'm not disappointed at all. The vehicles and wide open areas seem overwhelming, but I've got faith in the crew. I believe that the director and the music composer are the same guys who worked on the first two, so the heart of the game will still be there.

My only gripe is the potential name. I was looking forward to Banjo-Threeie, but on the other hand, so long as a bear with yellow shorts and a red bird go around collecting music notes, it'll still be Banjo Kazooie to me.
Cowzilla3's Avatar
Cowzilla3 at 05/13/2008 12:17
Why would you give them the benefit of the doubt? So far Rare as done nothing but dissapoint on the 360 with it's big franchises.
tehdopefish's Avatar
tehdopefish at 05/13/2008 12:20
I think that this game would have been awesome as a stand alone title, but when you take the -years- of waiting for a third game in the franchise, it's a recipe for disappointment. Rare may not want to make an HD version of the original games, but that is exactly what we were expecting to see.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar
Jetsetlemming at 05/13/2008 12:21
I really, really hate the "Oh god the game does more than one thing! I'm scared and confused! How dare they make it a platformer and a cart racer!" mindset. Jesus, people.
I played and loved both the original games on the N64, and even was convinced by the license to try the crappy GBA game, and I absolutely adore where they're taking this.
Justice's Avatar
Justice at 05/13/2008 12:23
Rare are such haters, to think they had a winning formula and they've messed it up with vehicular combat.
Why would they sacrifice Kazooie's moves just for that?

In the youtube video come posted before the developer said they were evolving the platform genre. This just looks like a step or 5 back.
Ashley Davis's Avatar
Ashley Davis at 05/13/2008 12:26
I think the reason why a lot of us, who have played the first games, are disappointed is because the first trailer was just so damn misleading. Though it didn't show much, it still gave off the impression that the game would be sticking to its platforming roots. Platforming is a dying genre that needed this extra push, but now that we see that that isn't the case.. we feel scared, confused, and that we were lied to. Or maybe that's just me. I am a lady with feelings and emotions, though, so it's okay for me to do that.

Oh Rare, how could you ever trick me like that!

It's not that I lost hope completely.. this could turn out to be a really solid game. The art style is wonderful, as is the music, and Rare boasts a gigantic list of returning characters that I loved from the first two games (Mr. Vile!). But, having the building and driving vehicles as the central focus of this game is something that wanes my interest quite a bit. That's just not my thing.
Alfie Haggis's Avatar
Alfie Haggis at 05/13/2008 12:28
The creatures in this game look bizzare! Nearly as bizzare as the life forms Ive encountered on the planet of CRIBTONIA!!!
v0odka's Avatar
v0odka at 05/13/2008 12:29
i've never played the original ones, but this looks like a fun game to me...

also, am I the only one who had read "Nuts and Balls" instead of Nuts and Bolts?
krozall's Avatar
krozall at 05/13/2008 12:30
Argh What the FUCK! I want a goodamn platformer, yeah a lego racing, buling game sounds fund but that could of been made with any characters. Banjo and Kazooie should be in some revolutionary platform game.

Why the vehicles, buldling my own vehicle isn't fun for me at all... I died inside a little today.
taumpytears's Avatar
taumpytears at 05/13/2008 12:32
I'm skeptical.
Sockapal's Avatar
Sockapal at 05/13/2008 12:33
Yay, collection of worthless nuts and bolts to build a worthless but "prettier" gummi ship.... looks pretty crappy and like a horrible direction for the once great Banjo and Kazooie games....
nukka jdav's Avatar
nukka jdav at 05/13/2008 12:34
Fuck.
S3RG3ANT C0D3BR3AK's Avatar
S3RG3ANT C0D3BR3AK at 05/13/2008 12:35
This is pissing me off...

what the hell is the use for kazooie now that whe have fucking flying cars?

Liking the sountrack tho.
Chicken008's Avatar
Chicken008 at 05/13/2008 12:36
doh doh doh..4chan was right..
thebluedart's Avatar
thebluedart at 05/13/2008 12:38
I think I'll just get my N64 out and play the original, thanks anyway Rare.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar
Phoenix Gamma at 05/13/2008 12:38
Oh man, I totally remember when Banjo and Kazooie drove around in robot cars and blew shit up.

Wait, that never happened.

Looks like a fun game, but clearly Banjo's been slapped on the cover, and Kazooie just doesn't fucking matter.
ChillyBilly's Avatar
ChillyBilly at 05/13/2008 12:42
DO NOT WANT! no really, I don't like it. Yea I haven't played it but, meh
prev next 50 comments

Returning Dtoiders: login now to post a comment

Destructoid is an open discussion community. You don't need to "audition" to post a comment - just Create an avatar now - it's fast and free: PLUS you also get your own gaming blog and begin posting stories and uploading videos in our open community area that may also appear on our home page. Sign up and we'll guide you through it, it's easy and 100% anonymous.




 Original Videos

 Reviews
Mad Dog McCree Gunslinger Pack
Overlord II
Yosumin Live!
Let's Tap
Ghostbusters: The Video Game (Wii)
View all Game Reviews

 Community blogs -   39765 Dtoiders!

This month's theme: Untapped Potential

New to Dtoid? Read the survival guide


 Originals

The best and worst '4th' videogames EVER!











more original Destructoid stories



 Popular now more













Destructoid is:
Nick Chester
Editor-in-Chief
Jim Sterling
Reviews Editor
Dale North
News Editor
Hamza Aziz
Community Manager
Anthony Burch
Features Editor
Rey Gutierrez
Video editor & director
Niero
Founder, publisher
Letters to the editors
tips@destructoid.com
Associate Editors
Ashley Davis Jonathan Holmes
Brad Nicholson Jonathan Ross
Brad Rice Jordan Devore
Chad Concelmo Matthew Razak
Colette Bennett Tom Fronczak
Conrad Zimmerman Topher Cantler
Dyson Samit Sarkar
Contributors
Adam Dork
Ben Perlee
Daniel Lingen
Joseph Leray
Joe Burling
Mikey
Will Maddock
Stella Wong




get involved

register or login
post a blog
post a forum
enter a contest
discuss a review
contribute a news tip
write a guest editorial
support

new member's guide
login assistance
tech support
report abuse
email our editors
read our dev blog
nuclear crisis?
keep in touch

RSS feed
Twitter
Facebook
Myspace
Flickr
Game nights
Meet-ups
seriously

about us
advertising
terms of use
privacy policy
jobs at MM
buy our crap
our network

Tomopop
Japanator




Destructoid is an independently-run publication forged by our love of video games and the gaming community's need of accountable enthusiast press
living the dream since March 16, 2006