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First 360 Community Games sales chart: Word Soup tops the list of awful games photo

I'm all for supporting indie developers, but there is a reason that hardly anybody in the media is talking about the Xbox 360 Community Games channel, Microsoft's XNA-led indie game portal. That reason, in case you didn't notice, is that nearly everything on there is pure, unfettered, stinking trash.

I've really tried to keep on top of the Community Games thing, but every title I've tried so far has either confused, alienated, or outright disgusted me. The day I drop 200 MS Points for Kitchen Wars is the day I agree to look after some money from a deposed Nigerian prince. Nevertheless, some people actually have paid for these games, and Microsoft has revealed its first Community Games sales chart.

400 point wordsearch game Word Soup tops the list, but the real shocker is the fact that Colosseum made the list at number four. Sure, it's one of the few titles that actually looks like a videogame, but it's still total crap. Oh well, he's the top ten:

01. Word Soup
02. Golden Royal Blackjack
03. Weapon of Choice
04. Colosseum
05. ZSX4 Guitarpocalypse
06. Sin(Surfing)
07. In the Pit
08. Head Banger
09. Snake360
10. Swords and Monsters
Wow ... Swords and Monsters is on there. If you've not played that particular gem, do download the trial at any rate. It's worth it. Oh boy, is it worth it.

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VashTS's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 09:37
VashTS
I'm glad to see that In The Pit is on that list. I showed a few friends that game and they love it. Out of the community games that I tryed I believe that it's my favorite so far.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 09:47
Crunshii
PS3fanboys! Gather together! Heed my call as I, lord-crunsh of the bs3universe show you from the stars that this post, undoubtedly proves that 360benevil-Jim is not part of the evil planet of Biasgalactica!

Let there be joy and prosperity in Dtoidland!

in other news, nice post jim :) I would be terrified to try one of those games and still remain healthy on w/e good games are left.
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 09:49
Bioautographical
Shenanigans! That Guitarpocalypse game is fucking terrible.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 10:04
GuitarAtomik
I still think Weapon of Choice is pretty awesome. The rest not so much.
njsykora's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 10:27
njsykora
The fact that Artoon is not on that list is a sign to me of extremely poor choice.
Markusdragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 10:28
Markusdragon
My box tells me that I'm not authorised to play user-generated content. I'm kind of glad now...
Mr Gilder's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 10:53
Mr Gilder
What?!?! No love for Dokie and the Musical Rain? Total BS.
JunkTheMagicDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 11:08
JunkTheMagicDragon
i've been trying the games as they come out. most are garbage or are just ripoffs of other, better games.

'in the pit' was a nice concept, but the hiliariously bad voice 'acting' killed it.

'sin(surfing)' is fun and i'll probably end up buying it when i get some more points. wish it would incorporate the currently playing music into the wave though.

'weapon of choice' is just pure badass. the control mappings are a little weird (jumping is hard to get used to), but the action and the music are awesomesauce.

'swords and monsters', well... it was a mildly funny joke, but not one i'll blow 2.50 on.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 11:16
Holyetheline
Wtf is up with everyone putting the wrong words in the wrong places today? Yeah these games all suck, I play real videogames.
Rifter01's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 12:38
Rifter01
Somehow, unfortunately, I'm not surprised.. It will take awhile longer in order for there to be more quality on/in the community games. I hope attention doesn't waine too much from it in the meantime.

I love the look of artoon, and I will probably buy it.. I haven't had alot of time to try many of the others out.
arrogancy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 12:53
arrogancy
That's pretty much to be expected. It takes quite a while to make a really good game (or lucking onto an awesome concept that WORKS), and these are essentially launch titles that come from ANYONE.

The problem is, if nobody goes to Community Games, there's no point in making any good, time intensive games for it. And people are likely to give up on it pretty quick if it's seen as "the place for crap."

I uploaded a "test" game on there - a family multiplayer game that is simply a pure early 80's throwback with graphical updates, just to essentially test the waters and get some data to see if it's worthwhile to put 'An Awesome Game' on there. I have decided to finish up one quality title I've been working on, see how it does, and base any future development on there on that.

Of course, if everyone is scared away by the A Kitchen Sink Wars of the world, then it won't be cost feasible to spend 6 months to a year making a game that nobody will play.
Krunklekick's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 13:17
Krunklekick
When I played the Swords and Monsters trial I remember thinking, "There's no fucking way anyone has paid for this". I'm totally dumbfounded.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 13:22
vexed alex
Weapon of Choice is the only passable game. The rest is garbage.
Imako's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 13:42
Imako
You mean the first generation of games are BAD?!? GASP!!
goneCrazy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 14:18
goneCrazy
Not all is rubbish, digging a bit into the trash you can discover some gems. I loved Crystal Crush and Totem two pretty good casual games, Biology Battle is a nice game to say a few. Ok there are very weird things looking bad and playing worst but I'm really curious: if Swords and Monsters is in the top ten seller and I can't imagine more than a couple of friends buying it... the 11th game how much is selling, two copies/week?
Agent Raz's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 14:18
Agent Raz
It seems to me that Community games will always be mediocre to bad because anything truly good will be promoted to the XBLA. Isn't that what happened with Braid?
Tron's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 14:36
Tron
In the pit is fun, but its not a videogame. its an.... audio game?
miketava's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 17:51
miketava
I've tried as best i can to keep up with these games, but they are SOO bad, most are just space shooters and platformers worth nothing, and you know why? Because those are the types of games Microsoft provides as demos.

This community games channel is a joke if they keep letting rubbish get onto it at this insane rate. They need to implement a rating system pronto based on the trials, to trash the shit that can't manage to keep my attention for the 4 minute trial.

I've only played 3 games (out of over 30) that were decent enough concepts for 200pts. 1-Weapon of Choice, 2-Word Soup, 3-In The pit (though I liked the concept, the sound effects and voices were horrendous, at least it was original...)

I am currently porting an old game project of mine for fun to the network(making it nice spiffy and new), but if it has to be surrounded by all this nonsense, it is quite discouraging to say the least.
Zerozaki Ishiki's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 20:42
Zerozaki Ishiki
Being was pretty much fun. A bit sadistic. But I'd been hoping for a slew of little 2d platformers, and we've had exactly one? WTF?
Tuxy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 21:50
Tuxy
I've purchased Word Soup and Lines. Good games and the price was right. 200 points a peice if I recall.
yyr's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/10/2008 22:58
yyr
Anyone who thinks there's no quality on Community Games has one of two problems:
1) They only tried the crappy games (and yes, many of them are crappy)
2) The annoying four-minute trial period ended before the game really got going. This is a big problem for developers, because four minutes is not a long time at all. We have to sell you the game in four minutes. Cut us some slack, okay?

Anyway, I really like Galax-e-mail, Smashell and Biology Battle. The latter two have really good presentation, too, and look as good as most XBLA titles.

I'm starting to think that there's a media bias against Community Games. Of the major gaming blogs and Web sites, I have yet to see one that really goes in-depth on them, even when there is some real quality on there.

My game, Snake360, is the product of 11 months of development, has been on both released top 10 sales lists but doesn't seem to be getting much attention press-wise. It's probably at least partially because the graphics are pretty bad compared to, well, anything modern. But gameplay-wise, I guarantee that it's as good as any classic arcade game on XBLA, and across its 300 levels, it easily has 5+ hours of replay value WITHOUT counting the multiplayer battle modes. It's really challenging at the unlockable levels, too. And the Internet Ranking boards are really starting to populate.

We even have contests running (they just started). We're offering $450 in Microsoft Points and LIVE Gold subscriptions as prizes. They are not random-chance drawings, and are entirely based on skill or judging, so anyone who's good at games will have a shot. I haven't seen any XBLA games offer contests like this, nor can I remember any recent retail games doing the same.

And yet, after submitting information about the contests to no fewer than eight major gaming blogs/sites (this one included), it was mentioned on exactly zero of them. What, does a gaming site's staff think that nobody cares about a shot at $450 worth of prizes? And I promise that the game isn't bad, either. Heck, if you buy the game, compete on it in the contests for a month, and then can honestly tell me you didn't have any fun, I'll PayPal you your $5 back if you insist.

If anyone here wants more info on the game or the contests, you can go to www.snake360.com. But since all Community Games are obviously awful... I guess I shouldn't get my hopes up, heh.
Crumpet Lips's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/11/2008 04:35
Crumpet Lips
Wow I am surprised Biology Battle wasn't up there. That game was great fun. I am still waiting to get some US MS points to put on my US account to buy it. It was really fun to play and looked nice.... the intros sound was really terrible though.
Rifter01's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/11/2008 08:20
Rifter01
@yyr - You're sorta/kinda preaching to the choir in a way, (at least to me, I'm indie-4-life, and D-Toid is indie).. While I don't have an XBLA title (yet) a few months ago, I made an indie game (Longcat the Mini-Game) - which, IMO, is a fine quality minigame that loosely resembles 'snake'.

I wasn't aware there was any contests around community games, which is a shame. A deep, deep shame. How anyone could pass up posting that or informing the public given the opportunity is beyond me. However, my suggestion is unless you (usually) offer a review copy out to someone, (like the big boys do - but don't quote me as I don't know exactly if this is 100% true) ..my suggestion is here, since the c-blogs are free to use, try using that and you should get the attention you and your fine work deserve. The community here should generally respond well.

As far as to why noone posted that on the front page, there's no reason why it shouldn't/wouldn't be AFAIK. But then again, I don't know anyone here very personally to answer something like that. It's not like I know Rev. Anthony (indie Reviewer) or Nick Chester personally or anything...

Bottom line: If an indie developer (like Jeff Minter, or someone else that makes something near and dear to my heart) wants me to cut them some slack, then I shall cuttith' da' slacketh'. :o)
Rifter01's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/11/2008 08:31
Rifter01
Oh, and I'm saying this in all seriousness.. My Longcat game has gotten zero publicity, zero google search results (google doesn't even link back here for me) and I don't know how many downloads it received,(since the free, Windows Live server I use does not report any download stats).

It seems the "little guy" still has a long road ahead to get 'publicity' taking the 'nice-guy route'. Someone could just pull an Eternity's Child and piss all over everyone to make their point/publicity.. Seems all negative publicity isn't as bad in some circles as it should be.

My point here is I guess he used the 'No such thing as bad press' or 'No press is bad press' attitude and it won him bank. I just wish devv's wouldn't piss gamer's off just to make their silly point. Contests are a great idea, I'll personally check out your game and your website, but, maybe it isn't too late to make a c-blog here about your game and/or contest?
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