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Yes, yes. Go on, make even console games worth less. Smart move, i can see people happy with that, kinda like with Ubisoft and Windows DRM.
Perhaps thats some way that they can keep 5 different people from playing the same copy of it at the same time like people can do with most other PSN games
Yeah, not gonna lie. This is probably due to the "PS3 Game Sharing" bit that David Jaffe was ranting about on Twitter (in which I gave him a counter argument on there and he blew up on me @Dragon_Yeti). I'm not sure exactly how it'll work though.
And it begins.
How many console owners saw what Ubisoft are doing to PC gamers with their always-online DRM and said "no problem, I'll just buy the games on console"?
Be afraid. Be very afraid. This ain't going away.
How many console owners saw what Ubisoft are doing to PC gamers with their always-online DRM and said "no problem, I'll just buy the games on console"?
Be afraid. Be very afraid. This ain't going away.
Maybe the game sharing combined with an attempt to drown out some of the people still rejecting 3.21
I don't know anything about this "game sharing" angle, but I was shocked when I encountered a similar problem with a Trophy Sync error code on the PS3.
Apparently, this is one of a few issues that can only be fixed by having a constant online connection. Surprisingly, the phone support line was very rude to me when I suggested that I never had any intention of taking my console online. This guy actually got really upset and treated me like an idiot for not embracing the "best part" of the Sony Playstation experience.
...not enough of an insult to make me buy an Xbox but still unsettling.
Apparently, this is one of a few issues that can only be fixed by having a constant online connection. Surprisingly, the phone support line was very rude to me when I suggested that I never had any intention of taking my console online. This guy actually got really upset and treated me like an idiot for not embracing the "best part" of the Sony Playstation experience.
...not enough of an insult to make me buy an Xbox but still unsettling.
o well my psn is always on anyways
but if they where doing for hte people refusing to donwload the new update how would they have downloaded this in the first place
but if they where doing for hte people refusing to donwload the new update how would they have downloaded this in the first place
@Glenn
Absolutely unbelievable.
Yes, Sony, I am required to pay $30-60 a month to ANOTHER ISP provider just to enjoy the experience - an experience Sony does not provide service of what-so-ever with their own ISP. Terrible.
Absolutely unbelievable.
Yes, Sony, I am required to pay $30-60 a month to ANOTHER ISP provider just to enjoy the experience - an experience Sony does not provide service of what-so-ever with their own ISP. Terrible.
Wouldn't one need PSN to download the game anyways? I mean, doesn't PSN automatically sign everybody in when you turn the PS3 on? Wouldn't it mean that essentially most of the majority will automatically have their internet connection running at all time? Couldn't those that don't have it automatic, just set it to do so?
@Wildcat
Scenario - I don't have internet.
Solution - Bring my PS3 to a friend's house, use their internet to fully and legally purchase a game, then bring it back to my house to play it.
Outcome if I buy Double Impact (allegedly) - I can't play the game I payed for.
Scenario - I don't have internet.
Solution - Bring my PS3 to a friend's house, use their internet to fully and legally purchase a game, then bring it back to my house to play it.
Outcome if I buy Double Impact (allegedly) - I can't play the game I payed for.
one more thing people saying that they are trying to pull drms on the ps3........if they need drm on consoles why would it be the ps3 when clearly the xbox is the one that has the pirate problum ....case in point going on justin.tv days before a game is out and see some one playing a leaked copy
@Kalmah that's not the point: flakey connection? What's going to happen to the game? Paused till you get online again? Fun. PSN shut down because everybody has already a PS4 with the newer PSN? No more Final Fight. One day they just shut down the authentication servers? Have fun with your game....
Plus some people don't have an always on connection. Real issue: even in reasonably developed countries, like here in italy there are still places without broadband!
Plus some people don't have an always on connection. Real issue: even in reasonably developed countries, like here in italy there are still places without broadband!
LOL, Only Noobs OR Game Sharer are piss off !
I'm good with that, i had occasion to "game share" but never did it ! I dont want probleme with my games and i'm Always Online ( Wireless love ).
I'm good with that, i had occasion to "game share" but never did it ! I dont want probleme with my games and i'm Always Online ( Wireless love ).
@Patriot Snake: it dosen't work like that. You can activate up to 5 PS3 with your account, it's made to allow you to have more than one console, and keep all your purchases on all of them. To "game share" you need to give somebody your username and password for the PSN, and usually only naive people do that :D
This is really, really stupid. There's no way it could be intentional, hopefully it's a glitch that they'll patch sometime soon. I'm on the fence for this game and this news isn't really swaying me to get it...
@Solidus187 not a glitch, check the description: it states clearly (at the bottom, after all the stuff nobody ever reads) that you need to connect to the PSN before you start the game.
The shitty thing about this is if you have a somewhat crappy connection. For instance, my connection is often good enough to download something, but that doesn't mean it's going to be stable enough to work 100% of the time.
I was banking on getting this but probably wont unless they figure out a patch.
I was banking on getting this but probably wont unless they figure out a patch.
A patch for game sharing ? xD Yah right.
For people ( noob ), almost all PSN things can get download on 5 different console.
For people ( noob ), almost all PSN things can get download on 5 different console.
Is that because of sharing? how so?
I shared all my games with my friends and they shared theirs. I think I've got about 80 gigs of stuff now.
I shared all my games with my friends and they shared theirs. I think I've got about 80 gigs of stuff now.
Also I fucked up somethin in the settings so I get disconnected from PSN quite frequently due to some fucking error and I can't figure out what should I do to fix it. So if I would've bought Final Fight, and I was going to, I'd be fucking pissed right now.
Shit, I'm pissed anyway. Motherfuckers.
Shit, I'm pissed anyway. Motherfuckers.
This doesn't surprise me a bit, I wouldn't want people sharing my games either. You can get pissed all you want, but the game sharing "feature" and Sony's online inexperience is to blame.
If Sony was experienced enough at online, they would have realized tying content and harddrive information to the console and not a portable identity, i.e. gamertag, is stupid. So the PS3 has the ability to download to 5 different consoles and that's it, with 360 you can download as many times as you want to your gamertag. Nintendo made the same mistake. Hate Microsoft for as many reasons as you want (and there are a number of them), but they have the experience to figure internet related shit like this out BEFORE they implement it, as opposed to the Japanese companies learning as they go. Shit like this and harddrive non-portability is the reason why the 360 is my main console instead of my PS3 or Wii, which are for exclusives only. It's just a fact.
If Sony was experienced enough at online, they would have realized tying content and harddrive information to the console and not a portable identity, i.e. gamertag, is stupid. So the PS3 has the ability to download to 5 different consoles and that's it, with 360 you can download as many times as you want to your gamertag. Nintendo made the same mistake. Hate Microsoft for as many reasons as you want (and there are a number of them), but they have the experience to figure internet related shit like this out BEFORE they implement it, as opposed to the Japanese companies learning as they go. Shit like this and harddrive non-portability is the reason why the 360 is my main console instead of my PS3 or Wii, which are for exclusives only. It's just a fact.
This doesn't surprise me a bit, I wouldn't want people sharing my games either. You can get pissed all you want, but the game sharing "feature" and Sony's online inexperience is to blame.
If Sony was experienced enough at online, they would have realized tying content and harddrive information to the console and not a portable identity, i.e. gamertag, is stupid. So the PS3 has the ability to download to 5 different consoles and that's it, with 360 you can download as many times as you want to your gamertag. Nintendo made the same mistake. Hate Microsoft for as many reasons as you want (and there are a number of them), but they have the experience to figure internet related shit like this out BEFORE they implement it, as opposed to the Japanese companies learning as they go. Shit like this and harddrive non-portability is the reason why the 360 is my main console instead of my PS3 or Wii, which are for exclusives only. It's just a fact.
If Sony was experienced enough at online, they would have realized tying content and harddrive information to the console and not a portable identity, i.e. gamertag, is stupid. So the PS3 has the ability to download to 5 different consoles and that's it, with 360 you can download as many times as you want to your gamertag. Nintendo made the same mistake. Hate Microsoft for as many reasons as you want (and there are a number of them), but they have the experience to figure internet related shit like this out BEFORE they implement it, as opposed to the Japanese companies learning as they go. Shit like this and harddrive non-portability is the reason why the 360 is my main console instead of my PS3 or Wii, which are for exclusives only. It's just a fact.
does Sony officially acknowledge this as "game sharing"? I always thought it was a basic drm model of 5 downloads limit. Sounds like abusers are screwing things up for everyone (if this Final Fight ordeal becomes a trend).
Capcom are DRM idiots with download-only games on PC, so this does not surprise me.
This is the future of gaming... online only, account-based and with no ownership what-so-ever. Stop supporting it and maybe we can stop it, but I doubt it.
This is the future of gaming... online only, account-based and with no ownership what-so-ever. Stop supporting it and maybe we can stop it, but I doubt it.
I'm pretty sure this is more of a glitch than a way around 'Game Sharing'. There are certain things in on PSN that can only be downloaded to one system (movies, most notably). I'm sure Capcom could opt-out of it if they really wanted to.
This is why I don't buy indie games on XBox. I do always have my system connected to the internet, but if my internet is down or I've taken my system to someone else's house who doesn't have internet, or it's 10 years from now and the servers don't exist anymore, I still want to be able to access my games.
Blasto has it on the money. The 360 method of re-downloading as many times as you want is DRM I can get behind.
Don't even get me started on the Wii. OOPS LOST ALL MAH GAMES!
Don't even get me started on the Wii. OOPS LOST ALL MAH GAMES!
It's for something like this that I don't understand people's hatred. If you're downloading a downloadable game, you have an internet connection. PS3 can connect wirelessly, so what is the deal?
@King
Ok King. What people need to understand is that you are put at the mercy of the developer, and essentially lose your right to own any given video game.
Remember that time the Playstation Network was down for 24 hours? Well for many of us, it is inaccessible multiple times, weekly, due to ISP/router problems.
The key here is ANYTIME your internet is down, you cannot play the game. ANYTIME the PSN is down through no fault of your own, you cannot play your game.
Another key point you need to realize is "what's next after the PSN?" What if PSN 2.0 is not compatible with the original PSN? What happens when Sony shuts down the original PSN a la Microsoft's recent shutdown of the original Xbox Live? You lose your game. It's directly equivalent to your disc self destructing after a certain amount of time.
I don't know about you, but I play my games more than a year after release. Final Fight Double Impact is a new classic - I can easily see myself revisiting it offline with a friend in years to come.
Yet, if I get it on the PSN, I am forfeiting that right to own my game. I'll stick with XBLA if the PSN keeps pulling this DRM.
Ok King. What people need to understand is that you are put at the mercy of the developer, and essentially lose your right to own any given video game.
Remember that time the Playstation Network was down for 24 hours? Well for many of us, it is inaccessible multiple times, weekly, due to ISP/router problems.
The key here is ANYTIME your internet is down, you cannot play the game. ANYTIME the PSN is down through no fault of your own, you cannot play your game.
Another key point you need to realize is "what's next after the PSN?" What if PSN 2.0 is not compatible with the original PSN? What happens when Sony shuts down the original PSN a la Microsoft's recent shutdown of the original Xbox Live? You lose your game. It's directly equivalent to your disc self destructing after a certain amount of time.
I don't know about you, but I play my games more than a year after release. Final Fight Double Impact is a new classic - I can easily see myself revisiting it offline with a friend in years to come.
Yet, if I get it on the PSN, I am forfeiting that right to own my game. I'll stick with XBLA if the PSN keeps pulling this DRM.
If this post was a building, the road in front of it would have a sign reading "Caution: Rampaging Fanboys".
Welcome to the year 2010, time to buy a wireless router or get some internet with an extended cord in your crib. Capcom is testing out some anti-piracy on the PS3 users it sounds like. Yes, it's intentional, no it's not the end of the world. With a downturn economy in the states people will turn to piracy to get their new games more than ever before, and people who run gaming companies need to work out a way to protect their assets while still being able to make a living. Is this the right DRM path to go? Perhaps not, but this is the new wave of the future.
Welcome to the year 2010, time to buy a wireless router or get some internet with an extended cord in your crib. Capcom is testing out some anti-piracy on the PS3 users it sounds like. Yes, it's intentional, no it's not the end of the world. With a downturn economy in the states people will turn to piracy to get their new games more than ever before, and people who run gaming companies need to work out a way to protect their assets while still being able to make a living. Is this the right DRM path to go? Perhaps not, but this is the new wave of the future.
This is not only Capcom testing it, of course they couldn't do this without the Consent of Sony, the idea might even be SONY's.
I won't be buying this out of principle. I don't gameshare with strangers, only with my brother, I bought more than quarter grand worth of PSN games (more than 30 titles), but Sony should know this will GREATLY reduce my spending.
I won't be buying this out of principle. I don't gameshare with strangers, only with my brother, I bought more than quarter grand worth of PSN games (more than 30 titles), but Sony should know this will GREATLY reduce my spending.
@Dameon
Sharing is not the same as piracy, that's not how it works in PSN.
Piracy is when you pay some hacker dude 30 bucks and he transfers $1,000 to your account, then you download whole PSN to your hard drive and THEN you share this account with your friends. That's piracy right there.
And you probably still can share Final Fight anyway, so what's the point?
Sharing is not the same as piracy, that's not how it works in PSN.
Piracy is when you pay some hacker dude 30 bucks and he transfers $1,000 to your account, then you download whole PSN to your hard drive and THEN you share this account with your friends. That's piracy right there.
And you probably still can share Final Fight anyway, so what's the point?
My internet is ALWAYS connected and my PS3 is always signed in, also I very much doubt I'll buy Final fight, so this does not bother me.
I do however share my games with a couple of close IRL friends, so this could put an end to that should it become common.
I do however share my games with a couple of close IRL friends, so this could put an end to that should it become common.
Someone said on Joystiq that maybe console DRM like this will get console gamers to rise up and complain like PC gamers have been, possibly ending DRM on all platforms.
That would be awesome.
I don't trust you lot to bother though.
That would be awesome.
I don't trust you lot to bother though.
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