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Thats kind of an important detail to overlook, dont you think? I wouldnt buy the game if i knew it had that ridiculous DRM on it.
Sadly, when they say "a fix is on the way" they mean "we're going to edit the game's description" and not "we're going to remove the DRM" :(
Huh... weird thing for Capcom of all people to do. :\
It'd be nice if they offered a refund for people who bought it since they didn't know about the DRM.
It'd be nice if they offered a refund for people who bought it since they didn't know about the DRM.
This is why I have such a love hate relationship with capcom, for every awesome thing like megaman10 or marvel vs capcom 3 they make they usually turn around and do something equally as stupid like cutting content from both versions of lost planet because the 360 disk couldn't hold the info and then trying to sell it as dlc or stupid drm like this.
Sorry capcom unless that drm gets removed the 9.99 intented for your game is going to someone else.
Sorry capcom unless that drm gets removed the 9.99 intented for your game is going to someone else.
Wow. As far as I know, there hasn't been any way to pirate PSN games. Or anything on the PS3 for that matter. The normal PSN DRM should take care of things here. What, are they afraid that offline players will pirate their game? How? It hasn't been done yet, it's not a problem they need to inconvenience users to protect themselves from.
Ugh, looks like I'm probably not going to buy this then since most of my time is spent with my PS3 offline.
"This protection mechanism has been implemented in numerous games offered on the PlayStation Store before."
Excuse my ignorance, but... what other games have this? I'm curious.
"This protection mechanism has been implemented in numerous games offered on the PlayStation Store before."
Excuse my ignorance, but... what other games have this? I'm curious.
they need to issue a refund to those who want it then imo. Some people use their PS3 offline a lot and are only on for updates and downloading DLC and stuff.
What, now i know it's been there (i'm in europe, after all) but just HOW did they forget to add this detail? GT5p had the same exact issue, and caused a shitstorm because it wasn't written anywhere, you'd think they would be more careful........ Plus, let's suppose i bought it, doing so i acknowleged the terms of use that were incomplete and misleading. I _think_ that gives legal power to get money back.
My PS3 is always online, but, guess, it sucks that this wasn't mentioned in the game's product description.
No Final Fight: Double Impact for you when you take your PS3 over to Grandma's house.
No Final Fight: Double Impact for you when you take your PS3 over to Grandma's house.
To me it seems like capcom cut content from both versions just to charge people for dlc. They could have easily put it out on another disc if they wanted to. Another bad move here
This blows. My wifi router cuts out if my machines aren't actively transmitting data all the time... I can play online games just fine but get booted off of PSN or the network shuts down if I'm playing offline. Normally it's not so big a deal (I'm already offline derp derp) ... but a game's going to be damn near unplayable if I get kicked out when my connection drops and won't let me sign in until I've reset the router.
Massive fail. Especially bad since I'd buy this sooner or later for co-op Magic Sword.
Massive fail. Especially bad since I'd buy this sooner or later for co-op Magic Sword.
@Solidus187as far as i know, GT5p and get ready for it, Warhawk. So, an online only game that nobody will notice has the drm, and another game.
Far from being "numerous"..... XD
Far from being "numerous"..... XD
Whaaaaaa......
What games have this? I mean, I'm always on line but if my internet dies or they shut the PSN store down in 5 years will I have wasted my coin on games that I can no longer play?
How the hell could people get free games on the PS3, isn't the thing like "unhackable"? I have never head of people stealing PSN games.
What games have this? I mean, I'm always on line but if my internet dies or they shut the PSN store down in 5 years will I have wasted my coin on games that I can no longer play?
How the hell could people get free games on the PS3, isn't the thing like "unhackable"? I have never head of people stealing PSN games.
The folks at Capcom are trying to block PS3 owners from using the Game Sharing ability to grant "free" copies to other folks. That's why they did this.
I guess Capcom's just making sure the game is future proof.
There's no way to play pirated games on the PS3 (as far as I know), but Capcom's making sure that if it should happen if the future, it won't be as much of a problem for them.
That's not to say I don't think this is a completely stupid idea.
There's no way to play pirated games on the PS3 (as far as I know), but Capcom's making sure that if it should happen if the future, it won't be as much of a problem for them.
That's not to say I don't think this is a completely stupid idea.
"Sadly, when they say "a fix is on the way" they mean "we're going to edit the game's description" and not "we're going to remove the DRM" :("
Exactly.
"yay more bullshit DRM
its also pointless since the ps3 crack is not really widespread"
It's also unable to do anything anywhere near pirating PSN games. I don't think the same is true of the 360, however, as I'm fairly sure it's thoroughly hacked.
Hopefully this will get you PC haters to wake up. DRM isn't about PC piracy. It's about control. The game developers want to control everything about how you interact with their product. This isn't just a PC thing anymore, and it WILL get worse.
Exactly.
"yay more bullshit DRM
its also pointless since the ps3 crack is not really widespread"
It's also unable to do anything anywhere near pirating PSN games. I don't think the same is true of the 360, however, as I'm fairly sure it's thoroughly hacked.
Hopefully this will get you PC haters to wake up. DRM isn't about PC piracy. It's about control. The game developers want to control everything about how you interact with their product. This isn't just a PC thing anymore, and it WILL get worse.
* Oh, thanks, a fix in description will help a lot... now...
Next time that I´ll sell a car that does not work in winter I will remember to tell this after selling it.
Next time that I´ll sell a car that does not work in winter I will remember to tell this after selling it.
That's annoying. I'm usually online anyway, but internet connections have been known to fail. I've found particularly my PSN connection tends to have problems when my wife's WinXP machine is on and connected. BOYCOTT. ha.
@GohanGVO
That's bad too. I thought the couple of installs you're allowed from the PSN store did a lot to make PS3 less of a target for piracy... if you're allowed to share a game with a couple of your buddies why go to the trouble and effort of figuring out how to break it wide open?
Some of PSN's weaker value-for-dollar titles have only seen purchases from me and mine because I can split the cost two or three ways... that's 1 sale instead of 0, as opposed to 1 sale instead of 2 or 3.
That's bad too. I thought the couple of installs you're allowed from the PSN store did a lot to make PS3 less of a target for piracy... if you're allowed to share a game with a couple of your buddies why go to the trouble and effort of figuring out how to break it wide open?
Some of PSN's weaker value-for-dollar titles have only seen purchases from me and mine because I can split the cost two or three ways... that's 1 sale instead of 0, as opposed to 1 sale instead of 2 or 3.
I predicted this shit months ago.
I knew PC like DRM would come to consoles. I've commented about this very thing on numerous stories here an other game blogs about DRM on consoles.
And I've always said dozens of times how DRM has NOTHING to do with piracy, it's all about control! Piracy is nothing more than a scapegoat for them to restrict the consumers.
Welcome to the PC gamers' nightmare.
I knew PC like DRM would come to consoles. I've commented about this very thing on numerous stories here an other game blogs about DRM on consoles.
And I've always said dozens of times how DRM has NOTHING to do with piracy, it's all about control! Piracy is nothing more than a scapegoat for them to restrict the consumers.
Welcome to the PC gamers' nightmare.
"the notification for a required PlayStation Network connection appears in the full game description when a game is downloaded" Downloaded??? That's too little, to late. Fail!
The DRM is for PSN Game Sharing. You know someone buying a game and then letting 4 or less of their buddies play it for free? Or at least that's what I read in a different article. DRM to prevent game sharing on the PS3 makes more sense than to prevent piracy since that's not really a problem on the PS3. I find it interesting that people assume that when DRM is involved, it has to do with piracy. I mean, I understand the logic seeing as how it is usually associated with pirating. But it is still interesting none the less,
That's really bad. I guess PSN would need it, though, as Sony's DRM is completely lenient and prone to thievery.
i don't get the point of this drm. Aren't the copies of the game tied to the consoles they were purchased on?
I've shared a few games from two of my buddies and I download them on my PSN and I log in as me and can play them all just fine. No game I have (like 20) does not work as I am online as me but if I delete my buddies profile then the game stops working.
I still think this game could be shared just fine with a friend.....
I still think this game could be shared just fine with a friend.....
Why do this Capcom? You know that people will now not buy this game, because they aren't allowed to play it offline.
My connection isn't that stable. I can play for hours, and not be cut out, but on some days it cuts outs. You telling me that if my connection drops while playing this game on single player, it will boot me out of the game? That's beyond stupid.
My connection isn't that stable. I can play for hours, and not be cut out, but on some days it cuts outs. You telling me that if my connection drops while playing this game on single player, it will boot me out of the game? That's beyond stupid.
Not really a fix to tell you it's broken, but at least some people will know to steer clear of this bullshit.
i would say just remove game sharing all together but how would i get my games back if my ps3 breaks
last summer when moving my ps3 got damaged had to be repaired the only way to get my games back was because of that sharing thing
unless its tied to something else when i can redownload my stuff but if its do to game sharing i say keep it i can ignore drms but then again im worried that hte ps3 will have less and less people by it and it makes me feel down as it is the fact the ps3 gets blown off all too much
last summer when moving my ps3 got damaged had to be repaired the only way to get my games back was because of that sharing thing
unless its tied to something else when i can redownload my stuff but if its do to game sharing i say keep it i can ignore drms but then again im worried that hte ps3 will have less and less people by it and it makes me feel down as it is the fact the ps3 gets blown off all too much
The beginning of the end for console gaming..... It is only a matter of time before some company tries pulling this shit with retail games.
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@ AliasWyvernspur
Good posts guys. DRM is about control, yes, and it's about making your purchase a limited one, a temporary one, and not really a purchase at all.
DRM has been on consoles before this though, Xbox Live Arcade games are all DRM protected, just more loosely than this. Hopefully if this builds up enough over several more titles it gets people to protest the DRM, one can only hope.
@ AliasWyvernspur
Good posts guys. DRM is about control, yes, and it's about making your purchase a limited one, a temporary one, and not really a purchase at all.
DRM has been on consoles before this though, Xbox Live Arcade games are all DRM protected, just more loosely than this. Hopefully if this builds up enough over several more titles it gets people to protest the DRM, one can only hope.
After the OtherOS debacle, I have little reason to feel sorry for most of you, after you defended Sony for doing it. When we said, "What's next? Playing games" you all cried we were full of shit...well, lookie to what Sony is doing again. Effectively removing your ability to play the games you purchased and not even Firmware can save you on this one.
I don't feel sorry for almost any of you and I hope some of you wake up and realize that Sony is digging themselves into one massive hole by systematically pissing off every group of people who bought a PS3.
Pissed off Early Adopters - Check (removal of a bunch of hardware)
Pissed off PS2 Fans - Check (removal of PS2 support in PS3)
Pissed off Audiophiles - Check (removal of SACD support)
Pissed off Linux Users - Check (removal of OtherOS)
Pissed off PSN Buyers/Supporters - Check (forcing you to be online to play OFFLINE games)
Seriously...it scares me to think what douchebag move Sony is going to pull next time. Oh, limiting DivX to authorized content ?
I don't feel sorry for almost any of you and I hope some of you wake up and realize that Sony is digging themselves into one massive hole by systematically pissing off every group of people who bought a PS3.
Pissed off Early Adopters - Check (removal of a bunch of hardware)
Pissed off PS2 Fans - Check (removal of PS2 support in PS3)
Pissed off Audiophiles - Check (removal of SACD support)
Pissed off Linux Users - Check (removal of OtherOS)
Pissed off PSN Buyers/Supporters - Check (forcing you to be online to play OFFLINE games)
Seriously...it scares me to think what douchebag move Sony is going to pull next time. Oh, limiting DivX to authorized content ?
@watwatwat "I guess Capcom's just making sure the game is future proof."
If by that you mean "You won't be able to play it in the future, when the network isn't there anymore" then yes.
I'm still considering buying this, but only on the 360.
If by that you mean "You won't be able to play it in the future, when the network isn't there anymore" then yes.
I'm still considering buying this, but only on the 360.
Fuck Christian Svensson !
That fucker has made Capcom worse in my opinion, I'm very positive that he was responsible for the DRM same every other shity thing he had done.
That fucker has made Capcom worse in my opinion, I'm very positive that he was responsible for the DRM same every other shity thing he had done.
This doesn't make any sense.
And I was actually planning on buying this game before I read this.
Here's at least one lost sale from me, Capcom. I say "at least one" because I'll be telling all of my friend's about this shit as well.
And I was actually planning on buying this game before I read this.
Here's at least one lost sale from me, Capcom. I say "at least one" because I'll be telling all of my friend's about this shit as well.
So the put DRM on this so that you can't hack it and get it for free? Well I guess people will just have to go out and download a ROM of the original games off the internet. Great thinking Playstation and Capcom you managed to get beaten by the internet before your product was even created.
Why specifically PSN though, I mean Xbox360 have long since been hacked, cracked, and have plenty of pirates.
What is specially about PSN theres really no one out there right now able to pirate anything on the PSN.
What is specially about PSN theres really no one out there right now able to pirate anything on the PSN.
@TristanMike Except for the fact that Sony has no control over what publishers do with their games, I find your whole diatribe ridiculous.
@StingingVelvet
True, that XBL games have DRM, but the type that doesn't feel as restrictive, with ridiculous requirements. Just as Steam is, shall we say "tolerable," DRM that doesn't get in the way of the enjoyment is somewhat OK. But to require to be online for a game that doesn't need to be played online is foolish.
Gamers understand the need for IPs to be protected, but it doesn't need "Michael Jackson's 50 locks on his bedroom door" type protection.
I still say this is only the beginning. Control on consoles will get worse. Games with serial codes tied to PSN/XBL accounts, more "must be online" DRM. We need to be together as fellow gamers, PC and console, to vote with our wallets! Stop accepting this nonsense!
True, that XBL games have DRM, but the type that doesn't feel as restrictive, with ridiculous requirements. Just as Steam is, shall we say "tolerable," DRM that doesn't get in the way of the enjoyment is somewhat OK. But to require to be online for a game that doesn't need to be played online is foolish.
Gamers understand the need for IPs to be protected, but it doesn't need "Michael Jackson's 50 locks on his bedroom door" type protection.
I still say this is only the beginning. Control on consoles will get worse. Games with serial codes tied to PSN/XBL accounts, more "must be online" DRM. We need to be together as fellow gamers, PC and console, to vote with our wallets! Stop accepting this nonsense!
@Volomon: Sony has to sign it, so yeah, they do have control. Plus it's been brought forward that this is a feature of the new Sony SDK for stuff on the PSN.
Well fuck this. I'm not getting the game anymore, since I don't like the 360's d-pad and the PS3 version has this shit in it.
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