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It affected the delay of the universal product, which sucks. If FFXIII fails critically and commercially on the 360, it'll be a huge blow to Square Enix.
At the very least, it'll sell around the 700,000 mark, like Lost Odyssey, I suppose. I still don't know what people saw in that game: it was a snorefest.
At the very least, it'll sell around the 700,000 mark, like Lost Odyssey, I suppose. I still don't know what people saw in that game: it was a snorefest.
"Of course, we'll never know ourselves whether the PS3 version suffered or not, only Square Enix knows that. "
We will never know. Though I'm wondering if not getting both audio tracks may be part of that, even though they weren't on 10 or, they may have been on a Bluray version.
We will never know. Though I'm wondering if not getting both audio tracks may be part of that, even though they weren't on 10 or, they may have been on a Bluray version.
I totally didn't even know this was an issue. I thought it was just the Square Enix way to take this long.
You know, some of the people who constantly rant about how terrible a decision Square's multiplatform Final Fantasy was honestly confuse me. They talk so much about why FF XIII will be a terrible game constrained by the 360. Are these people even fans of Final Fantasy? Do they have any faith whatsoever in Square's ability to craft an engaging experience?
I never trust any developers when they're talking about their games.
Uncharted 2 won't use 100% of the PS3's power.
Too Human wasn't good.
All Molyneux games will fall short of the mark.
One of the Versions, (Probs 360's, being a Port and all that jazz), will suffer from the simultaneous development.
Square-Enix will ignore they said this.
Uncharted 2 won't use 100% of the PS3's power.
Too Human wasn't good.
All Molyneux games will fall short of the mark.
One of the Versions, (Probs 360's, being a Port and all that jazz), will suffer from the simultaneous development.
Square-Enix will ignore they said this.
@Magnalon
If you think FF is going to fail on the 360 and only sell 700,000 units you're deluded.
The fact that you think a well established franchise spanning 20 years is equal in 360 owners eyes to a rather pedestrian rpg with no existing fanbase shows that alone.
If you think FF is going to fail on the 360 and only sell 700,000 units you're deluded.
The fact that you think a well established franchise spanning 20 years is equal in 360 owners eyes to a rather pedestrian rpg with no existing fanbase shows that alone.
It's only to be expected, I mean after SSF2HDR got the sprites gimped to meet XBLA's download size requirements and PS3 suffered the same gimping despite having no size requirements.
They will find something even if it's obscure...
Or just complain that it's multi-platform in the first place.
Or just complain that it's multi-platform in the first place.
@Monster, rocky
"If FFXIII fails critically"
"At least, it'll sell 700,000"
Where did you get the idea that I did not think it was going to sell well? I'm just curious as to how it's going to play out in terms of PS3 vs. 360 sales. It could shape Square Enix's future dealings with Microsoft as we know it.
"If FFXIII fails critically"
"At least, it'll sell 700,000"
Where did you get the idea that I did not think it was going to sell well? I'm just curious as to how it's going to play out in terms of PS3 vs. 360 sales. It could shape Square Enix's future dealings with Microsoft as we know it.
The complainers actually think the speed of the cell and size of the blu-ray somehow are being used in this game, and now crippled by making the 360 version, when there have been no indications it will rely on either.
I'm glad its multiplatform. I'm buying for the PS3 most likely but thats not decided 100%. The fact that it upsets fanboys, though, is what makes me smile. Ultimately, I'm buying this because i have loved final fantasy games since my pre-teen years and i don't care what system its on as long as its good.
I'd only get worried if they said it was going multi platform for the Wii and told me the same story about it not affecting anything. And thats not because I'm a wii hater (even though I am...for some odd reason) but because it would be a blatant lie.
I'd only get worried if they said it was going multi platform for the Wii and told me the same story about it not affecting anything. And thats not because I'm a wii hater (even though I am...for some odd reason) but because it would be a blatant lie.
FFXIII might not sell well on 360 because it's not a shooter. Either way, sounds more like a marketing statement to me.
Well of course going multi-platform caused a delay, cause EVERY game that goes multi-platform has one system that gets delayed due to the other. If anyone here can tell me that there is magical fairy dust that developers can sprinkle on their game to ensure that the last line of code written is done for every console version simultaneously then I need to tell you about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Delays are delays.
Lastly, I think anyone that complains about a game going multi-platform really needs a reality check. From Bioshock to Final Fantasy, more sales means brighter future for a franchise. I'm sure there were game franchises that were saved by that decision alone. A good point was Braid. If it goes multi, then the budget for the next game could be two fold. Or maybe he gets to make two games instead of just funding the one.
I think the whole multi-platform thing is just a soapbox for people who want to justify not being able to buy both consoles when you know if they had the money they would.
Delays are delays.
Lastly, I think anyone that complains about a game going multi-platform really needs a reality check. From Bioshock to Final Fantasy, more sales means brighter future for a franchise. I'm sure there were game franchises that were saved by that decision alone. A good point was Braid. If it goes multi, then the budget for the next game could be two fold. Or maybe he gets to make two games instead of just funding the one.
I think the whole multi-platform thing is just a soapbox for people who want to justify not being able to buy both consoles when you know if they had the money they would.
I love hearing people talk about how it'll not sell on 360. It might sell better on PS3, or it might not - but less than a million on 360? Take your head out of your ass long enough to look around once in a while nutbags.
Ah, PS3 fanboys. Microsoft might have released the so-called "tard pack" version of their console, but Sony has released a tard pack all their own on this generation of gaming...
Ah, PS3 fanboys. Microsoft might have released the so-called "tard pack" version of their console, but Sony has released a tard pack all their own on this generation of gaming...
You gotta love marketing. Do you really think they would say "The 360 version is worse"? They didn't go multi-platform to bring a crippled product on the market. But yeah, we'll never know if it has changed anything.
Doesn't that mean that Square Enix wasn't able to use 100% of the PS3's power like they said? Since it can run the same on 360 I mean.
Yeah, I said it. Come get me, my IP is 12.10...
Or maybe they are so super awesome that they managed to use 130% of the 360's power! But meh, seriously, I'm tired of hearing about the same shit over and over again, just release the game, pretend no-one cares.
Yeah, I said it. Come get me, my IP is 12.10...
Or maybe they are so super awesome that they managed to use 130% of the 360's power! But meh, seriously, I'm tired of hearing about the same shit over and over again, just release the game, pretend no-one cares.
Um, Xbox has had WAY more RPGS (and JRPGS) on it then the PS3, and they've sold decently enough to keep the trend going. I think it's going to sell fantastic on both systems, but more on the PS3, causing the PS3 fanboys to flood posts everywhere with comments about how their system of choice is superior and THIS PROVES IT.
Sounds like the summoning of lesbian motorcycle ice-twins will be great on either side of the console divide! YAY!
It's going to sell like water in the desert on both plataforms.
I have hopes in Squeenix, and i think they will deliver a decent product(compared with the PS3 version) to the 360 owners.
I have hopes in Squeenix, and i think they will deliver a decent product(compared with the PS3 version) to the 360 owners.
Unlike everybody else, I like multiplatform games. The more pople who have access to a game, the better. Exclusive games just seem elitest to me.
All I know is that Dragon Age followed a few months later by Mass Effect 2 and FFXIII makes this an amazing time to be an RPG fan.
This again, look it affected its development (delayed) wether they like it or not(I don't know about you, but I expected this game a while ago)and to say those 2 systems are perfectly equal is an insult to peoples intelligence(when a game has to get ported from the 360 to the ps3 we hear the same thing, its new tech we have to learn but more powerful,we have to learn it but its worth it,so now there magically equal? Riiiight, BS PR is BS) yeah you had to change a few things (but if you make the game good most won't care), and you can't tell me that with the time and production money you could have saved by not doing another version(much less a 3 disk one) that you couldn't take it to the next level. also I expect the ps3 edition to go 4to1 with the 360 edition because of japan alone.
but honestly I don't care about all that(and neither do most people), just get me this game already.
but honestly I don't care about all that(and neither do most people), just get me this game already.
Oh great nothing's changed! ..Except worse graphics, no multi-language support, and of course the delay. And where the hell is Last Remnant for PS3? Not that anyone cares anymore, Squarenix.
This thread reminds of the town hall tea-bagging going on in the states currently. The producer of the game said essentially nothing has changed regarding game design....but you zealots can't even hear that. Instead you clamor on about something else….Its going to be late as a result of 360 development.
Really? That‘s what you guys are upset about? In a game culture of constant delays your argument is that 360 development for FF XII is holding up the process? Game delays are the norm now and to be expected. Chances are it would have been delayed anyway. Is MS responsible for the hold-up of GT5 also? Was MS responsible for the hold-up of Killzone 2?
Some are even postulating that if the game doesn’t sell on the 360 (which it will) it will be a blow to the developer. News flash: even 200,000 extra sales in better than nothing. Especially given that the 360 is cheaper and easier to develop for. Square know this, that why it being developed for the 360. Sometimes I am embarrassed as to how little sense we make as gamers….try reason things without interjecting useless fan vitriol …maybe gaming IS making people stupider.
Really? That‘s what you guys are upset about? In a game culture of constant delays your argument is that 360 development for FF XII is holding up the process? Game delays are the norm now and to be expected. Chances are it would have been delayed anyway. Is MS responsible for the hold-up of GT5 also? Was MS responsible for the hold-up of Killzone 2?
Some are even postulating that if the game doesn’t sell on the 360 (which it will) it will be a blow to the developer. News flash: even 200,000 extra sales in better than nothing. Especially given that the 360 is cheaper and easier to develop for. Square know this, that why it being developed for the 360. Sometimes I am embarrassed as to how little sense we make as gamers….try reason things without interjecting useless fan vitriol …maybe gaming IS making people stupider.
This thread reminds of the town hall tea-bagging going on in the states currently. The producer of the game said essentially nothing has changed regarding game design....but you zealots can't even hear that. Instead you clamor on about something else….Its going to be late as a result of 360 development.
Really? That‘s what you guys are upset about? In a game culture of constant delays your argument is that 360 development for FF XII is holding up the process? Game delays are the norm now and to be expected. Chances are it would have been delayed anyway. Is MS responsible for the hold-up of GT5 also? Was MS responsible for the hold-up of Killzone 2?
Some are even postulating that if the game doesn’t sell on the 360 (which it will) it will be a blow to the developer. News flash: even 200,000 extra sales in better than nothing. Especially given that the 360 is cheaper and easier to develop for. Square know this, that why it being developed for the 360. Sometimes I am embarrassed as to how little sense we make as gamers….try reason things without interjecting useless fan vitriol …maybe gaming IS making people stupider.
Really? That‘s what you guys are upset about? In a game culture of constant delays your argument is that 360 development for FF XII is holding up the process? Game delays are the norm now and to be expected. Chances are it would have been delayed anyway. Is MS responsible for the hold-up of GT5 also? Was MS responsible for the hold-up of Killzone 2?
Some are even postulating that if the game doesn’t sell on the 360 (which it will) it will be a blow to the developer. News flash: even 200,000 extra sales in better than nothing. Especially given that the 360 is cheaper and easier to develop for. Square know this, that why it being developed for the 360. Sometimes I am embarrassed as to how little sense we make as gamers….try reason things without interjecting useless fan vitriol …maybe gaming IS making people stupider.
Without diving into a bitch fest, Square were right to take this series multiplatform. They'll be getting another sweet pile of sales, just like Batman has done for them, buy whichever one you want, its still just as sweet.
I'll be buying a 360 version. Direct your slings and arrows, now.
Hold your tongues, people. Must you always look for a fight, if PS3 isn't wearing a crown of supreme righteousness? Better yet, don't answer that.
I'll be buying a 360 version. Direct your slings and arrows, now.
Hold your tongues, people. Must you always look for a fight, if PS3 isn't wearing a crown of supreme righteousness? Better yet, don't answer that.
i think either way both versions will suffer. for some reason i feel that the ps3 has much better background and character models but the 360 has better effects and shading. that's just me though. not sure if its a system thing or a developer thing.
I hate that a lot of games are going multiplatform. I think that just kills the idea of competition and console wars if every game is on both systems. I know there are still great exclusives and games on both console, but i think there should be more, and i feel that FFXIII for me is beter on PS3 fully uncompressed unlike the 360 version, PS3 has on one blu ray and PS3 has japanese voices, so i feel for me PS3 one is better buy.
As much as I think Square is pretty much telling the truth here, I can't help but wonder when one of these two systems is going to actually take the lead graphically.
And yes, the people that constantly spout "They're both equal!" are just as jaded as the people that think one is more powerful than the other just because Sony/MS said so.
Every console generation, one system is generally accepted (even by fanboys!) to have the best graphical capabilities.
The N64 was more powerful than the PSone, the Xbox was more powerful than than the PS2 or Gamecube, but this generation all you hear is hyperbole and PR crap.
Does the 360's superior GPU and ease of development beat the PS3's ever-looming in the shadows hard to develop for beast of a CPU (the cell)?
WHEN WILL WE KNOW?!?
Can't we just have some honest multiplatform developers come forth and give us some unrehearsed opinions?
And yes, the people that constantly spout "They're both equal!" are just as jaded as the people that think one is more powerful than the other just because Sony/MS said so.
Every console generation, one system is generally accepted (even by fanboys!) to have the best graphical capabilities.
The N64 was more powerful than the PSone, the Xbox was more powerful than than the PS2 or Gamecube, but this generation all you hear is hyperbole and PR crap.
Does the 360's superior GPU and ease of development beat the PS3's ever-looming in the shadows hard to develop for beast of a CPU (the cell)?
WHEN WILL WE KNOW?!?
Can't we just have some honest multiplatform developers come forth and give us some unrehearsed opinions?
I think they´re fucking idiots! Nothing to fans is ever good enough and they´ll always find some to complain about. Shit! They don´t add anything useful for any discussion! Like the embargo shit on L4D2, they babble a lot, but they gonna buy it anyway.. so Shut Up! Stop complain!!
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