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I'm sorry, but Final Fantasy IX would like a word with them.
A very haughty claim, and it's insurance for themselves. If they ever make another good FF game, they can fall back on that overdone game.
A very haughty claim, and it's insurance for themselves. If they ever make another good FF game, they can fall back on that overdone game.
Obligatory 8 is better post.
Hell, 10 was better too. And 3 (actual 3, not 6). And you know what? 13-2 as well. Seriously. 7 was good at the time but was never god-like in quality. Over time the story and gameplay has barely held up and the graphics sure haven't.
The only reason why I personally would not want any of the pre-10 FFs remade is because I don't want them to have voice acting. Same reason I don't play the Dissidia games. I already have, in my mind, all the characters' voices and how each line is spoken. I never want to see or hear those characters either spewing a language I don't understand nor whinging in an American accent.
Hell, 10 was better too. And 3 (actual 3, not 6). And you know what? 13-2 as well. Seriously. 7 was good at the time but was never god-like in quality. Over time the story and gameplay has barely held up and the graphics sure haven't.
The only reason why I personally would not want any of the pre-10 FFs remade is because I don't want them to have voice acting. Same reason I don't play the Dissidia games. I already have, in my mind, all the characters' voices and how each line is spoken. I never want to see or hear those characters either spewing a language I don't understand nor whinging in an American accent.
What he meant to say is "We'll do a FF7 remake once our company is in danger of becoming completely irrelevant."
Or maybe instead of the 'best' FF game, how about your personal favourite one? You know, since everybody is different.
IX btw.
IX btw.
XII was absolute fuckloads better than VII.
Also, X sucked. I will never understand how people think its a good game.
Also, X sucked. I will never understand how people think its a good game.
Yeah, it seems quite a few here have caught on. Square Enix is saving the FF7-Remake as their "Get Out Of Jail" card. You want an FF7-Remake, STOP BUYING FF GAMES. (or any Square Enix games for that matter) They're not going to make the FF7-Remake unless it's the only option they have left.
@JoeCamNet You don't like stories much, do you?
Square is indeed playing the "Haha we're being subjective with your objective request!" game. A simple "No, because I'm rich, beyotch" would have sufficed.
Square is indeed playing the "Haha we're being subjective with your objective request!" game. A simple "No, because I'm rich, beyotch" would have sufficed.
So I guess this is as close to an apology as we are going to get for the recent string of terrible FF games, eh?
@JoeCamNet
Same as FFVII fans (or VI, or whatever) will never understand how people can believe XII is better
Same as FFVII fans (or VI, or whatever) will never understand how people can believe XII is better
@JoeCamNet
Just like FFVII fans (or VI, or whatever) will never understand how people can believe XII is better
Just like FFVII fans (or VI, or whatever) will never understand how people can believe XII is better
People, people, people.
The best FF game was CLEARLY X-2. Superior storytelling, excellent battle systems, and what isn't more progressive than an all-female team of protagonists?!
Ok, yeah, I couldn't say that with a straight face, either. IX FTW.
The best FF game was CLEARLY X-2. Superior storytelling, excellent battle systems, and what isn't more progressive than an all-female team of protagonists?!
Ok, yeah, I couldn't say that with a straight face, either. IX FTW.
any remake released now would effectively end the entire franchise
Lets just ignore that FF3, FF4, and (i think?) Tactics all have been remade already.
Bullshit-o-meter topped off after reading this.
Lets just ignore that FF3, FF4, and (i think?) Tactics all have been remade already.
Bullshit-o-meter topped off after reading this.
"We'll make a Final Fantasy VII remake once we've made a Final Fantasy game that exceeds the quality of FFVII"
lol like that's ever gonna happen.
lol like that's ever gonna happen.
They would just ruin FF7 either way by completely changing some major element for the worse, I just know it.
nothing NEEDS a remake, jim
i've played FF7 a long time ago and had an awesome time, but I would never play it again. I still remember that quest with the 80story building that was fully explorable and filled with NOTHING.
i've played FF7 a long time ago and had an awesome time, but I would never play it again. I still remember that quest with the 80story building that was fully explorable and filled with NOTHING.
Final Fantasy IX was better wasn't it? Remember that one? The one you guys never talk about? Alright then... What about Final Fantasy VI? Wasn't that one better than VII as well? No? That one didn't really happen? Oh ok...
I honestly don't get all the FF9 love. Sure, it's better than the assfest that is 8, but nothing about it really screamed "classic" to me. I also think people put way too much stock in the whole "They're recalling 1-5!" Despite the huff'n'puff, the artwork in 9 is very, very different than 1-5. 1-5 were never self-consciously silly, and I found that element of 9 to be off-putting. The story was so-so, with no major ups or downs, and the combat was pretty standard for the series. I really just don't get the hype.
I probably would've enjoyed it more with a less ridiculous art style, but I still wouldn't place it near the top. It's a solid middle tier FF game, like FF5, FF3 (not 6), and FF10.
I probably would've enjoyed it more with a less ridiculous art style, but I still wouldn't place it near the top. It's a solid middle tier FF game, like FF5, FF3 (not 6), and FF10.
At this point, I don't even care about a FFVII remake anymore. I just want a Kingdom Hearts 3 and Square will not get anymore of my money unless they finally announce it...that, or a FFVI remake, whichever comes first, though I'm not holding my breath on either one.
So that's why they sabotaged FF12; if they had let it go the direction it was going, it would have been too great than they've have had to remake FF7 six years ago.
"Though in truth, Square Enix is probably just waiting until it really needs some money."
I'd bet money that if an FFVII remake isn't already finished and being sat on for a rainy day, the framework and engines are being built in the background so they can just slap the current gen graphics on it and pump it out when needed.
I'd bet money that if an FFVII remake isn't already finished and being sat on for a rainy day, the framework and engines are being built in the background so they can just slap the current gen graphics on it and pump it out when needed.
Everyone has their taste. I personally feel Final Fantasy 7 was the best, I really liked 9 and it ALMOST passed 7 in my eyes but something stopped it from fully reaching that level. I will always love 3/6 as the story and characters were both done incredibly. I feel if THAT game got a remake, completely go and give it a full retooling but keep the story and the characters, maybe add some side stuff, it would far surpass anything done yet.
That's MY two cents. You can stick 100 Final Fantasy fans in a room and ask them their favorite 3 games and almost get 100 different answers.
That's MY two cents. You can stick 100 Final Fantasy fans in a room and ask them their favorite 3 games and almost get 100 different answers.
Here is my problem, Sqeenix needs to stop attempting to "best" any entry in Final Fantasy series and just make new, exciting, interesting, imaginative RPGs. By saying "This game needs to be the next Final Fantasy VII!" from the start they are already doomed to create something similar, but not quite as good as FF7.
Just look at FF13 dammit! The beginning is almost a clone of FF7! It even starts off with an effeminate, brooding, sword-wielding, spiky-haired hero and a loud-mouthed, green-wearing black character who uses guns fighting a robot scorpion! Please, just leave FF7 alone. It was and is a great game, but it's the new and exciting stories, worlds, and characters included in each game that made Final Fantasy relevant.
Just look at FF13 dammit! The beginning is almost a clone of FF7! It even starts off with an effeminate, brooding, sword-wielding, spiky-haired hero and a loud-mouthed, green-wearing black character who uses guns fighting a robot scorpion! Please, just leave FF7 alone. It was and is a great game, but it's the new and exciting stories, worlds, and characters included in each game that made Final Fantasy relevant.
can't help but feel they're really missing the window of effective sales. I played FF7 when it was released, at age 13. Now, I am 27. People my age are moving on from gaming, especially on consoles. We're getting families and shit. I barely have time for gaming anymore because of my 2 kids. Know what I mean?
Also, to add on to my point before, a lot of gamers that didn't grow up with FF7 play it now, and don't really dig it as much. So who are they gonna sell it to? Either everyone will have moved on or the next generation won't have the attachment needed for huge sales.
Final Fantasy V Advance is vastly underrated.
Also, this stinks of fifteen kinds of bullshit. First of all, each game in the series IS their own thing. It's not possible to make a "better" Final Fantasy. Each one doesn't "improve" upon the last. In fact, the only definitive way to make a "better game" than Final Fantasy VII...IS TO REMAKE FINAL FANTASY VII. THAT WOULD BE A DEFINITIVELY, OBJECTIVELY BETTER GAME. UHDUUUUUUHHHHHH.
Secondly, this is quite possibly the weakest excuse I've ever heard. It has absolutely no bearing on practicality, comes right out of left field, and is just the most random axiom I have ever heard of. I mean, it's not even something you can say comes out of Japanese culture, or even Square Enix's corporate culture, as they've CLEARLY remade game after game after game after game.
Disclaimer: I hate FFVII.
Also, this stinks of fifteen kinds of bullshit. First of all, each game in the series IS their own thing. It's not possible to make a "better" Final Fantasy. Each one doesn't "improve" upon the last. In fact, the only definitive way to make a "better game" than Final Fantasy VII...IS TO REMAKE FINAL FANTASY VII. THAT WOULD BE A DEFINITIVELY, OBJECTIVELY BETTER GAME. UHDUUUUUUHHHHHH.
Secondly, this is quite possibly the weakest excuse I've ever heard. It has absolutely no bearing on practicality, comes right out of left field, and is just the most random axiom I have ever heard of. I mean, it's not even something you can say comes out of Japanese culture, or even Square Enix's corporate culture, as they've CLEARLY remade game after game after game after game.
Disclaimer: I hate FFVII.
What a strange and arbitrary thing to say. What if they NEVER make a game that matches the quality of FFVII, according to his standards? I would think that would be MORE reason to remake it.
I don't think Square Enix could make Final Fantasy VII if they wanted to, though. They just don't have the resources to create a full-fledged, feature-packed epic on that scale. With four years of development time, they made FFXIII: essentially, the graphics, a battle system, and a lot of story scenes. They STILL haven't made Versus XIII, and that's been going for 6 years. FFVII has a lot more than that to it -- more minigames and sidequests than most other games, way more characters and locations, optional characters, etc.
I don't think Square Enix could make Final Fantasy VII if they wanted to, though. They just don't have the resources to create a full-fledged, feature-packed epic on that scale. With four years of development time, they made FFXIII: essentially, the graphics, a battle system, and a lot of story scenes. They STILL haven't made Versus XIII, and that's been going for 6 years. FFVII has a lot more than that to it -- more minigames and sidequests than most other games, way more characters and locations, optional characters, etc.
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