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So does Nintendo not care that this is Pikmen in a medieval setting or has no one told them about this yet?
I really love the new art style. Like, I REALLY like it.
Man... I am just so damn contrary today... God, it is so much easier when you agree with the popular opinion... >_>
I feel like my command of the English language will soon degrade. I will then grow belligerent and childish. Finally, I will lose my grasp on reality and the transformation will be complete; I will have become the new jimmyx.
Man... I am just so damn contrary today... God, it is so much easier when you agree with the popular opinion... >_>
I feel like my command of the English language will soon degrade. I will then grow belligerent and childish. Finally, I will lose my grasp on reality and the transformation will be complete; I will have become the new jimmyx.
I like the art in this slightly better than the art in the original. Since the original art seemed to keep some people away (it really looked like a game for kids, despite how deep the game was), I'm fine with changing it. Sure, an anime look isn't going to draw many more people in the US than the dwarf look, but hopefully it'll help in Japan.
Also, why so resistant to change? Do you really want to play the exact same thing you've played before?
Also, why so resistant to change? Do you really want to play the exact same thing you've played before?
I like the art in this slightly better than the art in the original. Since the original art seemed to keep some people away (it really looked like a game for kids, despite how deep the game was), I'm fine with changing it. Sure, an anime look isn't going to draw many more people in the US than the dwarf look, but hopefully it'll help in Japan.
Also, why so resistant to change? Do you really want to play the exact same thing you've played before?
Also, why so resistant to change? Do you really want to play the exact same thing you've played before?
It doesn't really look that different to me, in-game graphics are still simple and cartoony; just sharpened up for the greater pixel density or whatever.
Lulz. I like this style better.
Also, on the go play suits this game more than a console. Can't wait.
Also, on the go play suits this game more than a console. Can't wait.
I'll wait for the finished product. I liked the first one and the art style in this one seems alright. I just took the art style change as symbolism for the king getting older.
@ TheCleaningGuy- No, I'm not resistant to change. I'm happy about the touch screen controls and the changes in gameplay. What I'm not happy about is a downgrade in personality and evocative quality. In fact, that's why I don't like the art direction. It's not really a change, it's just an adoption of the norm.
The original Little King's story had unique art direction, part Manga, part western storybook, part western fantasy. This new art direction looks totally generic, like it was drawn by someone who just bought a "How to draw the Manga" way art book.
I hope that the game has fewer cut scenes that the original, because that art just totally kills the Little King's Story feeling.
The original Little King's story had unique art direction, part Manga, part western storybook, part western fantasy. This new art direction looks totally generic, like it was drawn by someone who just bought a "How to draw the Manga" way art book.
I hope that the game has fewer cut scenes that the original, because that art just totally kills the Little King's Story feeling.
I have to agree with you on the art direction here. They took a style that had way more quirk and turned it more into a typical generic jrpg look in terms of character designs.
Probably won't bother with it.
Probably won't bother with it.
The anime art is generic but it looks great. The character models and actual in game art, looks much better than the first but that's partially because it's on the vita i think.
Ha, so far it looks like I am NOT the outcast; the outsider is in fact Holmes!
dun dun DUN!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRB8Jor8tPs
dun dun DUN!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRB8Jor8tPs
The art definitely has taken on some anime style, but it's not a drastic change. It just looks like they evolved the original art into what it is now. It looks great and still retains the old charm.
Oh, if this is about the illustrations rather than the in-game models... I don't think it looks that generic; it's at least well-done and has a bit of a painterly style to it or something. Not as distinctive but no reason to write off the whole thing.
@Jonathan Holmes Yeah, the art is more generic, but if it leads more people to a great game that might otherwise fly under the radar, I'm happy to have it.
As someone who didn't play a whole lot of the original, it's possible that I'm less offended by this than someone who has obviously put some time and love into it. I can understand why the art doesn't sit right with you (I'd be grumpy if the Ogre series was given a Kingdom Hearts makeover), but perhaps the art will suit the tone of the game better. There's got to be a reason the developers took this direction, right?
Maybe the narrative and visuals will complement each other, even if it doesn't completely recapture the feeling of the original LKS. I'm just saying, I think it's worth it not to write off the new art completely. Who knows? Maybe it'll grow on you. That's what happened to me with the new DmC.
I suppose in the long run, you're just worried that the sequel won't capture the magic of the original. I feel you there, but if you're only giving the sequel "three strikes," I don't know if the first one should necessarily be the art.
As someone who didn't play a whole lot of the original, it's possible that I'm less offended by this than someone who has obviously put some time and love into it. I can understand why the art doesn't sit right with you (I'd be grumpy if the Ogre series was given a Kingdom Hearts makeover), but perhaps the art will suit the tone of the game better. There's got to be a reason the developers took this direction, right?
Maybe the narrative and visuals will complement each other, even if it doesn't completely recapture the feeling of the original LKS. I'm just saying, I think it's worth it not to write off the new art completely. Who knows? Maybe it'll grow on you. That's what happened to me with the new DmC.
I suppose in the long run, you're just worried that the sequel won't capture the magic of the original. I feel you there, but if you're only giving the sequel "three strikes," I don't know if the first one should necessarily be the art.
Little kings story is one of my favorite games.
One of its most interesting features was its weird art style and well told coming of age story, filled with commentary on society and humanity.
Both of which seem to have been chucked out the window here, from what I've seen.
I'm sure the gameplay will be good. But if you can, please try out the original.
One of its most interesting features was its weird art style and well told coming of age story, filled with commentary on society and humanity.
Both of which seem to have been chucked out the window here, from what I've seen.
I'm sure the gameplay will be good. But if you can, please try out the original.
@TheCleaningGuy:
There is no real use in explaining the other aspects which compose a good game to Holmes.
Holmes hates everything the PS Vita stands for and will not stand to reason.
I only know Holmes through some E3 2011 video footage and his PS Vita related articles (one of which he directly translated prices for PS Vita memory cards) and I can safely conjecture that I have not met a human being that hates anything more than Jonathan Holmes hates the PS Vita.
It is just that simple. Just reporting the facts! Holmes is using his position in Destructoid as a part-time writer on Destructoid to try and kill the PS Vita. Quite frankly, it is pathetic.
You sicken me Holmes.
>D
There is no real use in explaining the other aspects which compose a good game to Holmes.
Holmes hates everything the PS Vita stands for and will not stand to reason.
I only know Holmes through some E3 2011 video footage and his PS Vita related articles (one of which he directly translated prices for PS Vita memory cards) and I can safely conjecture that I have not met a human being that hates anything more than Jonathan Holmes hates the PS Vita.
It is just that simple. Just reporting the facts! Holmes is using his position in Destructoid as a part-time writer on Destructoid to try and kill the PS Vita. Quite frankly, it is pathetic.
You sicken me Holmes.
>D
I said it last time an article was posted like this and I'll say it again:
The art in the first one was somewhat "childish" (not in a bad way, that's just how it was) and now the art is a little more defined/mature. It totally fits with the storyline of the game. The first is a coming-of-age story and this one takes place with the king more grown-up. I think the art direction makes total sense (and looks good too!).
The art in the first one was somewhat "childish" (not in a bad way, that's just how it was) and now the art is a little more defined/mature. It totally fits with the storyline of the game. The first is a coming-of-age story and this one takes place with the king more grown-up. I think the art direction makes total sense (and looks good too!).
This looks like Pikmin with people. I haven't tried the original but the graphics in this look nice. Will keep an eye out, I don't mind the art style and maybe they'll refine the gameplay from the first.
Yup. They're trying to sell units and systems, so of course they're going to infuse a more mainstream (read: it worked in the past for some other hugely popular games) art-style. I've not played Little King's Story, but I found the original's visual style very appealing.
For established series, I don't mind drastic changes in the art direction so much... Castlevania: Lords of Shadow being a good example (also a polarizing one, depending on who you ask). I also tend to like some games based solely on art direction, like El Shaddai or Dark Souls. If either of those had a drastic change in visual direction, I'd probably lose interest.
For established series, I don't mind drastic changes in the art direction so much... Castlevania: Lords of Shadow being a good example (also a polarizing one, depending on who you ask). I also tend to like some games based solely on art direction, like El Shaddai or Dark Souls. If either of those had a drastic change in visual direction, I'd probably lose interest.
Oh lord. It seems handhelds4ever is now going to be the Stealth of the Vita and Vita articles, taking it as a personal affront whenever Holmes mentions something even slightly negative about Vita. I sure hope I'm wrong.
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The art style is a problem? Really?
Is it really all that different that it qualifies as a strike against the game? It looks pretty good, if you ask me, and the gameplay looks good, which I think is more important.
Honestly, seems like an awfully minor thing to complain about.
Is it really all that different that it qualifies as a strike against the game? It looks pretty good, if you ask me, and the gameplay looks good, which I think is more important.
Honestly, seems like an awfully minor thing to complain about.
I do prefer the other art style, they should of stuck with that. but hey this game still looks rad to play, so i'll give it go.
Based on that trailer, the only in-game change appears the be the characters, who look less Animal Crossing and more Final Fantasy Tactics.
However, I'm getting this feeling that it's going to have those dialogue scenes that are between two pieces of static character art. You know the ones in ever other jrpg. :\
However, I'm getting this feeling that it's going to have those dialogue scenes that are between two pieces of static character art. You know the ones in ever other jrpg. :\
@pokota
Not really. If the art style refelcts on how the game is portrayed as a whole, it is a huge impact. For instance: Jet Set Radio. If they were to do the sequel and change the style from cel-shaded & comic book-ish, to dark & gritty. Dark & gritty doesn't make Jet set Radio. Art style is why a lot of people are complaining over Rayman Origins, DmC, SFxTK, etc.
But still, diferrent strokes for different folks.
@Aaron
...Overlord?
Not really. If the art style refelcts on how the game is portrayed as a whole, it is a huge impact. For instance: Jet Set Radio. If they were to do the sequel and change the style from cel-shaded & comic book-ish, to dark & gritty. Dark & gritty doesn't make Jet set Radio. Art style is why a lot of people are complaining over Rayman Origins, DmC, SFxTK, etc.
But still, diferrent strokes for different folks.
@Aaron
...Overlord?
It's definitely different from the original art style, and it may be a more widespread style, but at least it's well done for what it is. It would be nice to see the original style return, but I'd be okay with this art direction.
@Epic-Kx
I totally forgot about those games! Though the esthetic of this game seem more like a copy then the bleak gray and brown esthetic of the Overlord games. I wonder why ZeniMax will sue someone over the word scrolls but Nintendo let's this slide?
I totally forgot about those games! Though the esthetic of this game seem more like a copy then the bleak gray and brown esthetic of the Overlord games. I wonder why ZeniMax will sue someone over the word scrolls but Nintendo let's this slide?
As long as the end product is good, I'll pick it up. Otherwise I'll strike some balls out of the park.
I loved the original as well. A lot of people say they loved it, but didn't buy it. FOR SHAME!
Anyhoo, the biggest issue the original faced was likely it's less than marketable visual style. The game looked like it was for kids (which repelled the hardcore) but was very difficult and deep (which repelled kids). DAMN good game though. Anyone who owns a wii, should own Little King's Story.
Anyhoo, the biggest issue the original faced was likely it's less than marketable visual style. The game looked like it was for kids (which repelled the hardcore) but was very difficult and deep (which repelled kids). DAMN good game though. Anyone who owns a wii, should own Little King's Story.
If I have to put up with a less than quirky art style to get the same great atmosphere, charm and gameplay...I'm okay with that.
I think it has promise as a reinvention of the series. But yea, I wouldn't presume it's going to be the same game as before.
I have to agree, although I don't hate this new art style I liked the original better. The new art-style looks alot like the new games in the Atelier series, and although I love the way those games look it's kind of weird here.
I'll try to view this like I did Twilight Princess how although I liked Wind Waker's art direction better that didn't mean I did't like the way Twilight Princess looks.
What has me irked most is that it's not being developed by the original studio, most of the time when a new studio takes over a game it doesn't feel much like the original. Though marvelous isn't a bad studio so maybe they can pull it off.
I'll try to view this like I did Twilight Princess how although I liked Wind Waker's art direction better that didn't mean I did't like the way Twilight Princess looks.
What has me irked most is that it's not being developed by the original studio, most of the time when a new studio takes over a game it doesn't feel much like the original. Though marvelous isn't a bad studio so maybe they can pull it off.
I feel funny about it because the super passionate and awesome producer of the original title, Yoshiro Kimura, is not involved. I hope it turns out as well without such a passionate and hard-working man behind it!
The character ilustrations look very different from the original, and very generic, but the gameplay graphics look more like an evolution to me, perhaps a little more generic, but still retaining that Little King's charm.
@Epic-Kx
Not that I remember. I only remember there being two places with any amount of color and that was the first part with the Halflings, and that grove in the Elves' forest were you have to kill the Unicorns. That's all I remember of the first game anyway I never played the second.Then again Dragon Age didn't have any places like that so I guess you're right lol.
Besides the only similarity between Overlord and Pikmen was the very basics of gameplay mechanics. I didn't instantly think of Pikmen while playing it like I did just watching the trail for this game.
Not that I remember. I only remember there being two places with any amount of color and that was the first part with the Halflings, and that grove in the Elves' forest were you have to kill the Unicorns. That's all I remember of the first game anyway I never played the second.Then again Dragon Age didn't have any places like that so I guess you're right lol.
Besides the only similarity between Overlord and Pikmen was the very basics of gameplay mechanics. I didn't instantly think of Pikmen while playing it like I did just watching the trail for this game.
@Jonathan Holmes
I totally agree, as a huge cing fan, i am utterly dissapointed they wrecked the gorgeous art style in favour of the generic anime style found everywhere in japan. it disgusts me. Little King Story and A boy and his blob were one of the most unique games i've played on the wii, and the art direction downright blew me away!
This doesnt exist in my eyes, i hope to god Hotel Dusk/Last Window isnt ressurected only to be butchered like Little King Story is!
I totally agree, as a huge cing fan, i am utterly dissapointed they wrecked the gorgeous art style in favour of the generic anime style found everywhere in japan. it disgusts me. Little King Story and A boy and his blob were one of the most unique games i've played on the wii, and the art direction downright blew me away!
This doesnt exist in my eyes, i hope to god Hotel Dusk/Last Window isnt ressurected only to be butchered like Little King Story is!
Urghh... Those character portraits look awful! Who likes that style? These games really aren't targeted at us, they're targeted at 12 year-olds. This isn't to say that the game looks bad, just the portraits.
I remember once hearing an interview with one of the directors of the Tales series. He was asked why the protagonists in the series keep getting younger and younger. His response was: "well, our main audience is 14 year-olds, so we're just catering to their preferences". The point of that story is that games like this aren't made with adults in mind. I love JRPGs, but sometimes I feel like I'm "too old for this shit".
I remember once hearing an interview with one of the directors of the Tales series. He was asked why the protagonists in the series keep getting younger and younger. His response was: "well, our main audience is 14 year-olds, so we're just catering to their preferences". The point of that story is that games like this aren't made with adults in mind. I love JRPGs, but sometimes I feel like I'm "too old for this shit".
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