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[Editor's note: jackal27 writes about how much he hates the Water Temple for his Monthly Musing. -- CTZ]

As I tried to think of something to write about for this article, a good many things crossed my mind, possibly things that I'll write articles about later on. However, the majority of the things I thought about were annoyances rather than things I hated. Things like friend codes, XBox Live, Zelda: Twilight Princess, every Final Fantasy game after 9, etc. Then, it hit me: The Water Temple.

There was only one problem with writing an article about this: trying to keep the swearing to a minimal. It's a risk I'm willing to take! Let's get at it! 

Where the hell do I begin!? Here I am, a 10-year-old boy who's been experiencing what I considered to be the greatest adventure ever, The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time. There were so many secrets and wondrous things to discover that I literally thought that somehow the game had to be magical. This game could do no wrong. I had already been blown away by the big twist that Link gets locked away for seven years, scared to death by the Forest Temple and the dirty feeling that I got from having the life humped out of me by zombies. Then there was the fact that I had triumphed over a huge dragon in the middle of a volcano by smashing it's head with a FREAKING HAMMER! What could possibly top it?

God ... Oh God ... I had no idea what I was in for. I conquered the small Ice Temple and received the Iron Boots. Then I was given a Blue Tunic, which I thought was so awesome at the time, and off I went to the Water Temple! What mysterious item could await me!? What deadly creatures would I face off against!? All these questions and more would soon be answered.

As I entered, my brother and I quickly realized what the gimmick would be for this dungeon: raise the water, lower the water, and then raise it again. Simple enough, right? WRONG. DEAD WRONG. It also quickly became apparent that we would be entering and exiting the menu a lot to change in and out of the Iron Boots. Not only that, but when the Iron boots were on, Link walked SO SLOW.

HURRY UP!

How about the damn Tektites that waited on top of the water for you to try and climb up to nearest ledge, only HEADBUTT YOUR ASS BACK INTO THE WATER!!

I SEE YOU OVER THERE DAMMIT!

Oh man, but maybe the item will still be cool! Maybe?

WRONG KID! All you get is a longer Hookshot!! MWUHAHAHA!!

UP YOURS!

Oh yeah, remember that annoying little tramp Ruto that you had to drag around all through Jabu Jabu's belly? She's here too! Oh, and by the way, she wants to have your children!

DEAR GOD.

Give me a freaking break. I can't remember how long it took me to beat this place as a kid, but I remember my brother and I switched off constantly for days looking for just ONE switch and it turned out to be hidden underneath one of the platforms that floats up when the water rises. That would probably be fine if you could SEE IT FROM WHERE YOU'RE STANDING. But you can't! They just expect you to say "Hmmm... I wonder if there's a switch under this platform."

FAIL.

Oh and the boss? Don't even get me freaking started on the undulating tentacle of skeet that is Morpha.

BALLS.

The only cool part about this dungeon? The battle with Dark Link, and even that's flawed! I mean come on guys, we all know Dark Link is cool and his entrance was totally creepy, but for a kid, he was nearly as hard as the dungeon itself. Also, if you die when you're fighting him, he is BITCH to get back to.

STOP COUNTERING EVERYTHING!

You know what, I try to watch my language but FUCK THIS DUNGEON.

RIGHT IN THE EAR!

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Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 00:37
Krow
I'm in a minority that actually likes the Water Temple. Even if you don't, the Spirit Temple totally makes up for it.
jackal27's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 00:37
jackal27
That place freaked the crap out of me...
Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 00:41
Krow
The one in the desert? I remember screaming while playing the Shadow Temple in the well at Kakariko Village.
jackal27's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 00:50
jackal27
Oh whoops, yeah, I was thinking Shadow Temple, haha. The Forest Temple was creepy too... That music was so nerve racking.
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 01:17
randombullseye
I am not a fan of the water temple either.
Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 01:20
Krow
This is irrelevant to your post, but why do you prefer Final Fantasy Tactics: Advance to the original PSX FFT?
GummyTumor's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 01:56
GummyTumor
I came late to the party for this game. I started playing Ocarina when I saw they were selling the Gamecube packed with a limited edition Zelda disc, it had the first and second Zelda's, and both Ocarina and Majora's Mask on one disc.

I bought the thing and played through the first Zelda, then a few days later I started on Ocarina. I thoroughly enjoyed the game, up until I got to this damn water temple. It infuriated me so much, that I just quit playing the thing. I have never quit playing through a Zelda game in the history of all Zelda games!!

It still haunts me at night. "One day water temple!!"
Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 02:17
Krow
... Wow. Go beat it! :)
MiOdd's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 08:59
MiOdd
I thought Ocarina's Water Temple was one of the finest, well crafted puzzles in any Zelda. I'm sorry you couldn't appreciate it.
bahss's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 10:19
bahss
Oh god. I remember trying to roll to go faster with the boots on, only to realize it makes you go slower. FUCK THE WATER TEMPLE!

Also, you need to come out and play video games with me and Addison. JOMO FnF! :D
SWE3tMadness's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 10:53
SWE3tMadness
If you feel this strongly about the Water Temple, you can curse like a sailor for all I care. Great writeup. xD
jackal27's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 12:26
jackal27
@Miodd- Remember, I was 11, hahaha.
MiOdd's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 16:12
MiOdd
Yeah... I think I was maybe 13 or 14 when I first played through the game and I too remember hating the Water Temple, but I played through the game very recently and had a much different opinion. I really enjoyed it the last time I played. So idk, still liked your write up though. Kudos.
PetiePal's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2008 09:46
PetiePal
I didn't appreciate raising and lowering the water so much, there was a ridiculous amount of backtracking involved in this dungeon.

However the boot problem was solved as easy as assigning it to a C-Button if I remember correctly. Then you didn't have to go into the start menu you just put them on and off. It was a very challenging temple which I didn't really find any of the others to be so I can't hate it too much as it did increase the play time and make me think.
jackal27's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/04/2008 13:26
jackal27
I don't think you could assign the boots to a C-button. You could in Wind Waker, but not in Ocarina.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:25
Darren Nakamura
You know, there's a lot of hatred for the Water Temple, but I never really had any ire for it back in the day. I'm apparently alone in this.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:30
CypherVR
i didn't mind the water temple, just that it was sluggish.
Chad Concelmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:31
Chad Concelmo
It's all about that last damn key that you always have to go back and find. Every freakin' time ... :(
Mista Smegheneghan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:31
Mista Smegheneghan
never had an N64 as a kid, so my first shot at this was when i got a cube and the zelda collector's edition. water temple wasn't too hard, dark link was though.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:34
Syn
Still to this day when I get to that point in the game I always say the same thing:

"Oh yeah, the fuckin' Water Temple!"
Murumasa123's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:37
Murumasa123
I didn't really mind the water temple. Even as an 11 year old i just worked though it. The water temple in Majora's mask was so brain curning that i never bothered to complete the game.
It was just horrible!
Superfluous Moniker's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:40
Superfluous Moniker
I had huge problems with the forest temple my first play through this game, I remember spending hours looking for this one damn key... I think it turned out to be at a climbable wall somewhere I stupidly missed. And the ghost block pushing thing was a pain.

As for the iron boots, try equipping them before a cutscene to hear Link stomp around. I didn't mind going to the pause screen so I'd take them off when I was underwater to swim faster, then put them back on to sink, etc, think you save time this way. *looks for OOT speedrun*
Kfizz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:41
Kfizz
Yeah it took me years to find that since i just stop trying after i thought i messed up the water temple. But no i just missed the key underneath the main pillar I beat it my first year of high school. I was only 11 the first time i played OOT i could have been twelve.
slapme7times's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:42
slapme7times
I loved the water temple, especially the boss. I never really understood the difficulties other people had with it.
Danl Haas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:42
Danl Haas
@Chad
OH GOD. I know. I replay this game annually and that happens every time. EVERY. TIME.

Side note: The Dark Link battle is probably one of the most interesting scenes of that entire generation. Just sayin'.
ejamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:46
ejamer
Am I the only one who thought the battle with dark link was laughably easy? It went something like this:

1. first attack - blocked by sword
2. second attack - blocked by sword
(stop and look in menu for a minute... ah, there's my giant hammer)
3. dark link gets his ass kicked
grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:50
grafkhun
*slow claps* well said, well said. Also those annoying clam enemies will rape you... but only SOMETIMES! I swear, sometimes, I would just walk past like 4 of them no sweat, but sometimes I'll just be strolling along in my iron boots... and BAM they start beating me up. what the hell man!!?!???!?!? oh yeah and dark link... ugh, I like to try to rush him and spam the megaton hammer, may get lucky and beat him quickly :D
Tiff's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:53
Tiff
@Dexter I think there is definitely a minority class of people who just went through this temple and *got it*. I can see how it could easily be a frustrating and confusing level... but when I played through it went along swimmingly (*cough*PUN*cough).
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:59
Kyousuke Nanbu
If I recall correctly there was one weapon that Dark Link never countered, I don't remember what it was though.

But yea, this dungeon sucked BALLS my first time through, took me about 12 hours.
Endstiem's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 18:59
Endstiem
Greatest temple of all time.
McSnow's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:01
McSnow
Hi, my name is McSnow and I have a confession to make:
I never beat the Water Temple.
I had to get a friend to do it for me, maybe one day I'll be good enough at this gaming lark to go back and complete it myself. Then I'll be able to die a happy man.
Maxxthepenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:11
Maxxthepenguin
Reason why WW and TP were so easy?

OOT's water temple and MM's every temple backlash.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU KILLED MY ZELDA
ZekeThePlumber's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:18
ZekeThePlumber
I don't think the Temple was that bad. The design was obviously meant to be difficult, but the only thing that really starts to annoy is that all the corridors look the same so you end up losing your sense of direction.

Also, Dark Link cried like a little bitch when I whipped out my hammer. I'll have none of that standing on my sword bullshit.
lordsalmon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:18
lordsalmon
I was definitely frustrated about switching in and out of the menu all the time for the boots. They really could have done something about that, but the most annoying part for me was when at the end of the temple when you're at the door to the boss. Then you have to climb up some stupid ramp filled with spike things that move around. That thing pissed me off.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:37
ArrestedDeveloper
EFF YOU WATER TEMPLE!
RICHARD BLOCKER's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:40
RICHARD BLOCKER
Thanks for bringing back those memories of defeat and anguish.
Stahlbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:40
Stahlbrand
I had strong negative feelings about the water temple. I thought it fucked up the tempo of the game in an unacceptable way, and I had some very bad luck with falling off platforms and fucking up the puzzles.

I put the game down for a day or two (a very strong act considering my otherwise potent love of OoT) and came back to it with 'just fucking get it over with and move on' determination later in the week, got that ship back on course and continued to be amazed by the rest of the game.

Water temple was the worst part of a great game - if it had been a dungeon in a less-amazing game, then it wouldn't be as big of a deal, but in OoT it was like DaVinci dragging his sleave across still wet paint on the Mona Lisa - an objectively small blemish that marred a masterpiece.
Bluefusion's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:44
Bluefusion
I personally think the water temple is one of the greatest puzzle dungeons ever crafted. I think they made a purposeful effort to turn it into the most painful dungeon. If it is still stumping us over a decade later, they really got it right. If it annoys the hell out of you because of its complexity, then the designer accomplished his mission.

Alas, they tried to make another mind boggler out of the water dungeon in twilight princess, but that will only fade into obscurity like that entire game.
Caster Tr0y 357's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:46
Caster Tr0y 357
i gotta agree with this.. the water temple was the most annoying temple in the entire game... although the forest temple was kinda annoying too..
jrwolv's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:48
jrwolv
lol I was really young when I played it first... I also didn't have a memory card. So I never got to that point.
GunSlap's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:51
GunSlap
I agree with you on this one.

But as much as it sucked, the water temple refused to let go of me. I HAD to keep playing till I got the heck out of there!

In fact I'm going to go as far as to attribute Ocarina of Time (and the water temple specifically) to helping me develop patience and problem solving logic at an early age.
Edco's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 19:59
Edco
My first time through was big ol' fail. The second time I found the idea of how it all worked but still blew it. Kind of amazing where you have to play to get the "idea" of a dungeon. Took the third time with steely determination to get it right! I remember well, nice post to bring back the memories and the frustration.
RUSKULL's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 20:04
RUSKULL
I was 21(ish) when I the game came out, and honestly I loved the water temple. It was my favorite level, and certainly the one I remembered the most year later.

I've been rather shocked to hear that level get such a bad rap since. Maybe it was because you were ten? Although the younger I've been, the more patience I've had. Your diet growing up wasn't sugar water was it? :P
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 20:11
-PL-
I never had any problem with the water temple in OoT. I don't even remember having a hard time with it... I had a much harder time with the ice dungeon in LttP (I think it was dark world, level 5)
mrdurden4's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 20:13
mrdurden4
stuff of legend mate
norm9's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 20:16
norm9
One of the most memorable dungeons for sure. Annoying, yes. Amazing in its complexity- also yes.

I remember refusing to turn the game off to sleep because it would ruin the momentum I was building in the temple, and I didn't want to start over from the entrance. Took me a couple hours but the sense of accomplishment made it all worthwhile.
Big Z's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 20:21
Big Z
For all the hatred about raising the water level and searching for keys, I'm surprised that nobody has complained about the fact that, at one point, you have to be grabbed by an enemy to reach the next section of a room. Really? Let one grab you? The odds of someone saying "I should run into that monster and see what happens" mid-way through a game that has hammered into your skull "running into monsters will get me killed" are slim to none, and you probably spent more time trying to figure this part out than you remember.
Rational_Jesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 20:22
Rational_Jesus
Yeah, the Water Temple was ass. It made me put the game down for more than a year. Other games were out that didn't make me wanna kill myself, so I played other shit. When I finally did get around to beating it, my appreciation for that level went up. But holy christ it was a fucking bitch.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 20:25
Cheeburga
FFFFFFFFFFFFF
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 20:32
Clockwork
When I was younger and I had the strategy guide, I still couldn't figure out what to do. It was so damn confusing.

Fuck the water temple
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