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Feel the Hatred: Sephiroth

4:05 PM on 09.29.2008   |   Jamie McGinn


[It's not a theme about hating stuff in videogames without a blog about Sephiroth. -- CTZ]

Final Fantasy VII was the first proper RPG I’d ever played. I think my favourite game prior to that was probably Sonic the Hedgehog. That kind of lets you know how little experience I had at that point with story driven games. The idea that a game could contain such a compelling story with characters you actually cared about wasn’t something I had really expected, I certainly didn’t expect that a game could make such an emotional connection with me. Throughout my time with FFVII, I found that the game could make me feel many emotions I never expected a game to be able to bring out in the player.

One of those emotions was most certainly hate.


Sephiroth has been a victim of his own success, with Square Enix whoring the character out, making appearances in games such as Ehrgeiz, Crisis Core, Kingdom Hearts I & II, Itadaki Street, Advent Children and of course Sephiroth’s Fly Fishing Adventure: One Winged Angler. With so many appearances that do absolutely nothing to add to his character, it’s no wonder that people tend to roll their eyes should you even hint that you liked him. However, that’s not what I’m here to talk about.

I hated Sephiroth, and I mean that literally.

In Final Fantasy VII, towards the end of disc 1, Sephiroth had taken the spotlight as the main villain. He was constantly one step ahead of the player, lording himself over you with his “superior” attitude. He showed the ability to control Cloud’s (the protagonist) body and mind. He was also batshit insane. This made him very dangerous, and a jerk, but it didn’t make me hate him.

So when the (possibly) main love interest, a flower girl from the slums called Aeris decides to run off to single handedly defeat Sephiroth, naturally the rest of the heroes decide to go after her. They were, however, not alone.

Deep inside an ancient and forgotten temple, Cloud finds Aeris silently praying. As he approaches her, it becomes obvious that cloud is no longer in control of his own actions. Against his will he draws his sword and raises it above his head, ready to bring the massive blade down upon the completely oblivious flower girl before him. At the very last moment Cloud manages to pull himself back, stopping his sword mere inches from her head.
As he stumbles back, Aries finally opens her eyes. She looks at him with surprise, she doesn’t say a word, she simply smiles at seeing her friend.

She smiled.

Their happy reunion was not long lived, from high above, Sephiroth descended towards the still kneeling Aeris. With one swift movement he impaled her with his Masamune sword, almost killing her instantly. I say almost, because she had just enough time to widen her eyes in pain and horror, before her entire body went limp.


Sephiroth merely smirked as he drew his blade from the lifeless flower girl.

Cloud could only shake Aeris’ dead body in disbelief whilst Sephiroth raised his arms in victory and began to gloat. Before you could even enact revenge, he escapes, leaving you to fight one of his minions.

Aeris' death was a complete shock to me, it totally blindsided me. Without any sort of warning, a character I really liked was gone, forever. Without really realizing it, I had made an emotion connection to this character, and that link had been brutally and unexpectedly severed for good. I wasn’t used to getting this attached to characters, and I was certainly not expecting her to die. From a more practical point of view, Aeris was always part of my group, she was the healer, the backbone. Now she was gone.

I was furious.

I can honestly say at the time I truly hated Sephiroth. The game had suddenly become personal. I didn’t want to beat Sephiroth because it was part of the story, I wanted to beat him because of what he had done. I felt like I needed closure, I felt like I needed revenge.

Defeating him at the end of the game was an incredibly satisfying moment. One of the most satisfying moments I’ve ever had in gaming. I remember actually yelling in triumph when I landed the killer blow in the last battle. I felt like I had delivered justice, I felt like I’d gotten revenge.


Revenge was so very, very sweet.

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blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 11:40
blehman
Regardless of character whoring, I'd still buy, at FULL PRICE, Sephiroth’s Fly Fishing Adventure: One Winged Angler.

On the wii.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 11:40
Maurice Tan
Nice writeup :)

I hated Aeris and her so-called innocent cocktease ways. So I loved Sephiroth instead.
Half left's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 11:42
Half left
Classic game. Silly swords. Good read.

Also.

Have you considered some sort of psychological evaluation?
Lightthrower's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 11:48
Lightthrower
The problem with your article is that Sephiroth was not the vilain in FF7, it was Jenova all along. You can get more info at GameFAQS about that.
Jamie McGinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 11:50
Jamie McGinn
@Lightthrower

I'm pretty sure Hojo is the real villain of that game, he pretty much set everything in motion.
Lightthrower's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 12:06
Lightthrower
Only one thing to remember about Jenova is that she can do mind control at will, think about that and read the thesis on GameFAQS (if it's still up there).
Brian Keljore's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 12:06
Brian Keljore
I wish I could give a more objective opinion on this write up, but I truly loathe this game. :(

Though I do have different reasons, I too hate Sephiroth, so at least we share the same opinion there.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 12:26
Char Aznable
@Lightthrower

The words "thesis" and "GameFAQs" should never appear in the same sentence.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 12:44
king3vbo
@Lightthrower

The word "GameFAQs" should never appear in any sentence.
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 12:50
F Whipple
We all know Don Corneo was the real villain.

Good read
Lightthrower's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 12:56
Lightthrower
Like i said, not sure if it's there anymore. I read it years ago. I know the GameFAQS community sucks, but the FAQS rock ;-).
Jesse Cortez's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 13:35
Jesse Cortez
WAAAAHHH!!!! I also hated Sephiroth for this reason. He killed my first true videogame crush! :(

Good write-up man....almost brought a tear to my eye reliving this part :P
Jesus H Christ's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 14:33
Jesus H Christ
Good write up. I feel like shishkabobs tonight.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 15:13
Demtor
Awesome choice, however I'd argue that Sephiroth was just a victim in an overall mind fuck that was Jenova. Poor guy. While I don't remember the details exactly, as its been so long, I did actually feel a bit sad for him because he simply lost control of his human side. Probably around the time when he tried to save his 'mother' from the plant. Or was he really trying to do that? Hmmm. God I need to play that game again... or just read the FAQ in Gamefaqs as someone has already pointed out ;)
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 16:37
Wexx
WOW THANKS FOR SPOILING FFVII FOR ME JERK! NO SPOILER WARNINGS AT ALL!


Good write up though, seriously :P I don't really like FF VII, or the plot or characters, but some of the elements really make it a good game. And yeah, I'd agree with all of these people that Sephiroth isn't really the villian of FFVII, he might as well be. Killing Aeris was pretty much solidified him as the main antagonist, as that was the way cloud felt, which I'm pretty sure was who you were supposed to identify with (him being the protagonist and all...)
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 17:32
EternalDeathSlayer
hey, this was actually a pretty good write up! I was going to comment just cause you were in IRC, but this blog succeeds on it's own merits!

Sephiroth was my favorite character though.
SWE3tMadness's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 22:34
SWE3tMadness
Great story. Like I said in my post for the Monthly Musing, I believe that to truly hate something with games, you have to be emotionally attached to them. So I'm surprised that more people haven't done more articles regarding characters or storylines this time.
CrocBox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2008 22:59
CrocBox
One thing that has always bugged me about RPGs is you could use revives/phoenix downs/whatever they wanna call it when people get killed until a cut scene comes along then NOBODY EVER THINKS OF THAT. I guess in battle they just get "knocked out" and it's nothing fatal.

Good write up there dude :P
moggle's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 16:16
moggle
Sephiroth’s Fly Fishing Adventure: One Winged Angler

I think that needs to go on the list of Best Games Nobody Played.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 16:17
Knivy
I keep hearing the "TUN TUN TUN TUUUUUUUUN" every time I read "Sephiroth" :/.

Anyway, I never really got that attached to the FFVII story, probably cause I was 10 and I didn't really like reading in another language.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 16:26
SephirothX
"Sephiroth has been a victim of his own success, with Square Enix whoring the character out, making appearances in games such as Ehrgeiz, Crisis Core, Kingdom Hearts I & II, Itadaki Street, Advent Children and of course Sephiroth’s Fly Fishing Adventure: One Winged Angler."

Question... how is a character whored out by making appearances in the same storyline/universe? (Crisis Core and Advent Children?). And all SquareEnix characters are whored out in Kingdom Hearts, so thats a mute point. Great article though!

The reason Sephiroth is my favorite character in the game is the backstory that follows him, he's truly a fallen hero and isnt a pure rotting villain like every other Final Fantasy villian before him. When you step back and look at the overall story, you realize that Sephiroth's actions are evil however his motives are not entirely evil. He truly believes that the human race eradicated the last of 'his kind' and that he is seeking vengeance for those people.
Furyfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 16:32
Furyfire
Despite all the whoring.. Sephiroth is probably one of the better written villains, considering the fact that he was indeed batshit insane due to Jenova's doings.

In any case.. the only other one I hated as much as him, was Kefka. :P
Darkknight37's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 16:34
Darkknight37
Amen.

I mourn that woman to this day. That whole fight afterward with her theme playing was ever eerie, since you can't be hurt if you have that water ring armed. Yes, the next few hours of play felt so empty, especially since you did get connected.

I argue to this day that FF7 reached the greatest height on its console than any other game could have. Do I think its the best game I've ever played? No, that goes to GTA: San Andreas. What I do believe is that everyone who played that game at that point, from beginning to end, had never played a better game.

Sephiroth, you killed my woman, drank my beer, and kicked my dog. I enjoyed thoroughly kicking your ass in the end. To make it even worse for him, I went back and beat him with Cait Sith and Yuffie in my crew, what now bitch?!
Spitfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 16:48
Spitfire
nice write-up, though I hated sephiroth because of the creepy fanboy/fangirl obsession. I never got why he was such a "bishi hunk". He was pretty evil/insane - trying to destroy the world does that. IMO Kefka was worse, but thats a different discussion.

Aeris totally needed to die. Otherwise I would have had no motivation to beat the shit outta him at the end.
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 16:53
Gen Eric Gui
the big problem here is that Sephiroth is dead for the entirety of the game. He falls into the core of the earth during the Kalm flashback and is frozen in a giant Materia for the whole game. Jenova is fucking with Cloud's mind because she knows he's easily influenced by the form of Sephiroth. Jenova kills Aeris, Jenova steals the Black Materia, Jenova summons Meteor, everything.


I didn't deduce this from reading a GameFAQs theory, it's right there in the game.
Zeno's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 16:53
Zeno
I don't get how anyone could actually care for any of the crappy characters in this game. It's like someone pulled a fanfic off deviantArt and made a game out of it.

It doesn't help that they're all the same in terms of combat. Sure you lose Aeris, but you can replace her just as effectively with any other character.
skull13666's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 16:56
skull13666
Ehrgeizwas way before SquEnix and how could he NOT be in crisis core?
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 17:03
Syn
@Zeno: Not really, she has the lowest capacity for physical damage, and at the time was able to hold the most materia, which turned her instantly into a magic powerhouse, plus she was the only one who's limits were geared towards party buffs.
Strife381's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 17:35
Strife381
Sephiroth actually helped cloud! Have you ever tried to break up with a girl like Aeris … CRAZZZZY. Besides I wanted cloud to date that other chick all along , Titts Magee(I cant remember her real name).
Sterling Aiayla Lyons's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 17:39
Sterling Aiayla Lyons
I come here expecting an Sephiroth anti-fan rant. And you let me down...I hope your happy...

Seriously though, nice write up. I was pleasantly surprised by it.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 17:59
Excel-2011
I have no idea who Sepiroth is or what he did to warrant so much love and hate, but I know I want to have nothing to do with him.
Murumasa123's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 18:00
Murumasa123
I was a kid who never played an RPG before and bought it because i liked the cover. Although its a cliche or worse an internet cliche I loved FF VII and felt the same about Sephiroth and Aries.
Thank you so very much internet for ruining it and making sure everyone else who saw it and felt the same says how brilliant it is making it so liked its uncool. Thanks a fucking lot every stupid final fantasy fan and all cosplayers!
Good article though.
EthanGray's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 18:07
EthanGray
I too hate Sephiroth but for completely different reasons. I was in a relationship with a girl who told me that she loved Sephiroth equally to me. Needless to say not a good relationship when you can be replaced by a fictional character.
djnifty's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 18:52
djnifty
i know how u feel once cloud laid her in the water surprisingly i felt this salty water substance roll down my face in i said to my self wtf is this.

that was the day that i truly fell in love with video games
SullyZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 20:03
SullyZero
@SephirothX
Not to be "that guy" but it's a moot point, not a mute point. I don't know what that bothers me. Sorry.
Cube's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 20:03
Cube
Sephiroth is one of the worst video game RPG i have ever seen then again I say that about the entire cast and it's animie rip offs, and poorly written story they live in.

final fantasy 7 is when final fantsy started going down hill into the old man in a walker who the hell cares anymore it is today.

Kefika was the last good villian sqaure put out for final fantasy anything.
10BobMarleys's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 21:32
10BobMarleys
@Cube: Lol.

I felt the same way, Young Scot. That barstard had to pay for what he did to my heale.... coff, I mean girlfriend.
Shane86's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 21:46
Shane86
Reno > Don Corneo > Sephiroth
jackal27's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 21:52
jackal27
I hated Sephiroth as well... But for completely different reasons...
dubbya's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2008 22:45
dubbya
admittedly Aeris' death was a powerful moment for the games as art, but I think the whole lamenting the death of Aeris speeches are a wee bit played out. Don't get me wrong, this is a great writeup, I just think the topic is a little overdone.
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2008 02:07
Rabite
Kefka > Sephiroth. FF6 > FF7. I think that sums it up pretty well.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2008 03:23
manasteel88
people love to hate...Sephiroth is a good boss and the murder of the Shinra president at the end of disc 1 with that big ass sword sticking out of him had to be one of the coolest moments in gaming for me.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2008 04:20
Aurain
Aeris death was pretty hilarious to me, however, it doesn't change the fact that Sephiroth is a pretty lame villain, and in the context of Final Fantasy, pretty weak as a Primary Antagonist.

Kuja, however Transgender he may be, would have kicked his ass all day.
nebones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2008 04:22
nebones
Great read!
Cryoplasma's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2008 08:00
Cryoplasma
So much hate.

I think a lot of you misunderstand what exactly happened in the plot of the game. It wasnt Jenova--it WAS Sephiroth. When he fell into the lifestream and was washed to northcave he beceame more powerful in death than he ever was alive. The entire game Sephiroth was projecting his spirit from northcave. Yes--Jenova played a large part in messing with Clouds mind and manipulating situations, however, Sephiroth was the mastermind behind everything. Sephiroth was completely insane though. ;)

People who say Sephiroth was a horrible bag guy.. Yea well those people are idiots. Yea, I love Kefka too and FF3 (6) is my 3rd favorite Final Fantasy game (7, tactics, then 3).

People just love to hate FFVII because it was the first widely popular FF game and those poor fans pre-FFVII feel like they have to protect their 8-bit love children by hating on the first next gen, widely popular Final Fantasy game.

The FFVII haters are worse than those music fans who like a band until they get big. Then they make fun of both the band and people who like the band after it gets big. Give me a break, lol.
Mr Gilder's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/30/2008 08:26
Mr Gilder
I hated Aeris. Go figure.
Buddha's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2008 21:17
Buddha
He's a fucking beast in Kingdom Hearts I
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