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Damn it, stop with the Fallout Tactics hate. It says right on the box: post nuclear tactical combat game, not RPG. And it wasn't an RTS. In the fine tradition of games like UFO: Enemy Unknown and Jagged Alliance it was a great game.
And sure as hell better than whatever this MMO abortion is going to end up as.
And sure as hell better than whatever this MMO abortion is going to end up as.
Fallout and Fallout 2 are the only two RPGs i have installed on my computer.
All the other games are FPS and MMORPG.
So i send hope to the all mighty (insert your god here) that they don't stuff it up.
Fallout was the first PC RPG i ever played, ah the memories... :D
All the other games are FPS and MMORPG.
So i send hope to the all mighty (insert your god here) that they don't stuff it up.
Fallout was the first PC RPG i ever played, ah the memories... :D
Its not going to compete, just look at what world of warcraft has become and what attracts all thoes players to it?
Females: Pixies and Elves, Fantasy Role play.
Male: Females
Now take Fallout. I can't see girls playing that game, and unless you want an online sausage fest I think guys will stick with WOW.
Females: Pixies and Elves, Fantasy Role play.
Male: Females
Now take Fallout. I can't see girls playing that game, and unless you want an online sausage fest I think guys will stick with WOW.
This will be the most glorious of days if they can pull this off. Oh yeah forget WoW, when people start waking up and realizing how much of a dumb grind fest that stupid game is they will come and play Fallout Online, oh and don't forget about darkfall online...that game is going to rule.
There's too many MMO's out there and in development. Personally, I'd much rather a new single player Fallout RPG.
Please don't turn this into an MMO! I've been waiting for a new Fallout RPG forever! The PS2/XBOX version smoked pole! and if they manage to screw up the PC version that bad, there will be hell to pay...
thank god Bethesda's got the rights a true sequel... that news made my day. I could care less about MMORPGS. if I wanted to talk to people I would go into the cellar where I keep my captives and yell stuff in german at them
I wonder if Bethesda can transfer the game to 3d without ruining it (is it one of those games that really best works as it is?) and if they can maintain the dark humor as well as it was.
At least, Bethesda seems to have the best credentials out of all the companies on the scene now to really pull this off well... so I'm thankful they picked it up.
MMO Fallout? Well... is there even a point? I hope they are at least developing a well rounded game rather then just trying to target us Fallout cultists still out there who roam the net aimlessly looking for new pieces of information about it.
At least, Bethesda seems to have the best credentials out of all the companies on the scene now to really pull this off well... so I'm thankful they picked it up.
MMO Fallout? Well... is there even a point? I hope they are at least developing a well rounded game rather then just trying to target us Fallout cultists still out there who roam the net aimlessly looking for new pieces of information about it.
I think the only way they'll be able to compete is by updating their graphics quite a bit. The 3/4 PoV isn't going to cut it nowadays with the 360 degree camera rotation, such as in WoW. Also the 3D models will need a lot of work, and they need to ensure that character creation is allows for a lot more creativity than in the first two games. (I don't really consider tactics part of the series, to be honest)
But a futuristic post-apocalyptic MMORPG would be something completely different and refreshing, just like the original games were when they came on the market.
And by the way, "Vampireblood", I *am* a girl and I've played these games since they first came out, and they are still, by far, my favorite RPG. So please think before you put your foot in your mouth. Girl gamers are very present nowadays, moreso than they have ever been, and it's not just "fairies and elves" that attract us to the genre.
But a futuristic post-apocalyptic MMORPG would be something completely different and refreshing, just like the original games were when they came on the market.
And by the way, "Vampireblood", I *am* a girl and I've played these games since they first came out, and they are still, by far, my favorite RPG. So please think before you put your foot in your mouth. Girl gamers are very present nowadays, moreso than they have ever been, and it's not just "fairies and elves" that attract us to the genre.
Noes, do not go to the dark side. Interplay is nothing more than a shell of it's former self, there is no Brian Fargo, there is no more Black Isle, there is only a capitalistic company who wants to try to milk every single cent off the franchise.
Fallout 3 by Bestheda on the other hand, prolly won't be in the same spirit as the first 2 games. Seeing as they only bought the rights to the franchise but don't have any of the guys who worked on the original games. Which will thus have an effect on the 'flavoring' of Fallout 3.
Lets face it, the Monty Python references, and odd-ball antics that were included in Fallout 1 & 2 are things of the past. And must be cherished
Fallout 3 by Bestheda on the other hand, prolly won't be in the same spirit as the first 2 games. Seeing as they only bought the rights to the franchise but don't have any of the guys who worked on the original games. Which will thus have an effect on the 'flavoring' of Fallout 3.
Lets face it, the Monty Python references, and odd-ball antics that were included in Fallout 1 & 2 are things of the past. And must be cherished
It's quite amazing how I was interested in a Fallout MMo for roughly 23 seconds...which was long enough for me to post mention of it in the GD forum. In retrospect my love for Fallout 2 may be undestroyable but my love for the general series has seen a decline lately.
Forget online stuff, if they got the rights to Fallout, then they have the left over work from Fallout 3, they need to finish it to bring the game back into the light first.
I think its about time we get a post nucler online survil game like Fall out i cant what for it to get here. I also seen a couple of thing about darkfall at the 2007 con in ID and it looked great.
Although I haven't played the PS2 game since I heard it was over before the disk got hot, I will say that I like Brotherhood of Steel. It had the Mail Call guy from the history channel as a general and the same narrator. You got to play as a Brother. I could care less about the bugs. They were far offset by the experience of continuing the WASTELAND franchise. That's right. Fallout was the successor to Wasteland. Although I'll be one of the first to get the B version, my final comments are this in regards to Interplay. If you remember, Blizzard was a dead fish when the last installment of Warcraft came out. If they can do it, why can't Interplay? Who knows, if they do, maybe they will be able to put out a true Baldur's Gate 3.
I think a Fallout MMO could be a great game. WoW has opened up the MMO market, and a post apocalyptic mutant filled world could provide an excellent counter to the traditional swords and sorcery worlds.
But there are pitfalls. While WoW opened up the market, they also raised the bar. Interplay can't half ass this. The game would have to be polished and refined. And it will need to capture the spirit and humour of the original.
And the SciFi channel is also working on a post apocalypic MMO. I have no idea of the status or quality of it.
But with the loyal Fallout playerbase and a rich world to build on, I think a Fallout MMO has a really good shot.
But there are pitfalls. While WoW opened up the market, they also raised the bar. Interplay can't half ass this. The game would have to be polished and refined. And it will need to capture the spirit and humour of the original.
And the SciFi channel is also working on a post apocalypic MMO. I have no idea of the status or quality of it.
But with the loyal Fallout playerbase and a rich world to build on, I think a Fallout MMO has a really good shot.
I'm a girl. I would totally play this. I've been waiting years and years for it. I'd dump my WoW account in a heartbeat. So there. =)
A Fallout MMO will FAIL, and FAIL HARD. Why? Because the current MMO recipe doesn't fit it. Fight-in-a-box PVP, leet epix, level based $15/month quest grind.
Here are some things that will never be implemented in a fallout MMO:
- not everyone is a vault dweller: the whole plot of Fallout has to go in the toilet. you can't have 5000 "13" (or 101) jackets running around.
- A karma/outlaw system: if you kill 'good' people your karma will creep to 'evil', if you kill 'evil' people your karma will creep to 'good'. Settlements and NPCs accept/reject you depending on your alignment.
- PvP has to have consequences: or it's pointless.
- You should never be "uber". no amount of leet epix or levels should make you invulnerable or a "one shot ganker". the game should always be a struggle. You have a missile launcher? that should pack a punch, but it should also be a pain to rearm, carry.
- Stop with the f-ing classes. Drop the concept of warrior, priest, and rogue bullcrap. Make a skill based MMO - I F-N DARE YOU! Sure let people get titles like "doctor" (if their med skill is high enough), or "sharpshooter" if their guns skill is high enough. but enough already. stop with the cookie cutter crap.
- Infinite ammo and money: A fallout MMO should be a constant struggle for ammo and money.
- Addictions: make them HURT, and make them GOOD.
Why this will never happen: People will whine and cry when their actions has consequences, they want to eat the pie and sex the pie, and take the pie's money, and keep the pie too.
Also: a fallout MMO if implemented as it should be will have an AO rating.
PS: I predict: World of Falloutcraft.
Here are some things that will never be implemented in a fallout MMO:
- not everyone is a vault dweller: the whole plot of Fallout has to go in the toilet. you can't have 5000 "13" (or 101) jackets running around.
- A karma/outlaw system: if you kill 'good' people your karma will creep to 'evil', if you kill 'evil' people your karma will creep to 'good'. Settlements and NPCs accept/reject you depending on your alignment.
- PvP has to have consequences: or it's pointless.
- You should never be "uber". no amount of leet epix or levels should make you invulnerable or a "one shot ganker". the game should always be a struggle. You have a missile launcher? that should pack a punch, but it should also be a pain to rearm, carry.
- Stop with the f-ing classes. Drop the concept of warrior, priest, and rogue bullcrap. Make a skill based MMO - I F-N DARE YOU! Sure let people get titles like "doctor" (if their med skill is high enough), or "sharpshooter" if their guns skill is high enough. but enough already. stop with the cookie cutter crap.
- Infinite ammo and money: A fallout MMO should be a constant struggle for ammo and money.
- Addictions: make them HURT, and make them GOOD.
Why this will never happen: People will whine and cry when their actions has consequences, they want to eat the pie and sex the pie, and take the pie's money, and keep the pie too.
Also: a fallout MMO if implemented as it should be will have an AO rating.
PS: I predict: World of Falloutcraft.
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