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Fallout 3 will have over 200 endings, you will never have a life again photo

Okay, I've played games with two, four, even six or eight endings. That's fine, it's kind of fun to see them all, especially the "easter egg" endings like in Silent Hill where the UFO comes. There comes a point where enough is enough though...right?

Bethesda's Todd Howard recently did the official Xbox podcast and talked about Fallout 3, and revealed somenew tidbits, including the boggling new number of endings available. The highlights list:

-”Fans sending death threats” says one of the OXM guys. Another one calls Fallout fans”rabid Right Wing kind of fans”.

-Over 200 endings, since last week. The 12 endings was surpassed sometime ago.

-The game is twice bigger than what they thought in the beginning.

-Always just one humanoid-type companion, and another NPC like Dogmeat.

-Dogmeat can die, but they are working on his health and how you maintain him.

- Dogmeat can be given assignments, and will try to follow them with his Radiant AI.

-Brotherhood of Steel doing their own thing; already in finished state on the game; they are on the verge of extinction, you’ll interact with them a lot more after a determined point in the game.

-The game is finished, but needs a lot more polishing and testing, they are doing many playthroughs; they keep adding stuff, sometimes it takes 100 hours to play, just the main quest takes about 20 hours.

-Absolutely tracking at fall 2008.

Two hundred endings. See, I love me some Fallout, but this is the kind of sh*t that gives gamers a bad name. Of course, I applaud the creativity and time it must take to create two hundred endings to a game, but you know hardcore Fallout fans are going to try to get as many of those endings as they can, which means no life outside of playing the game and maybe going to a day job if you don't quit the damn thing so you can have more time to play Fallout

What's your input - are hundreds of endings too daunting a goal to consider meeting, or merely a fantastic challenge worth bellying up to the bar for?

[Via Fallout 3 Blog - thanks Justin]


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Briosafreak's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:17
Briosafreak
Ok here's what Todd Howard said:
[quote="Todd Howard Executive Producer Fallout 3"]Todd Howard: Being that we are Bethesda…everything gets a bit big. So as of last week we’re over 200 endings. That is not an exaggeration, but it deserves some description. 200 endings…that’s a lot. So originally when we started, we had various iterations of the ending. The ending is kind of cinematic, that’s dynamic based on the things you’ve done.

When we started, it was kind of fuzzy, it was like “well there’s like 9 maybe 12″ and we started adding things to it. So if you had done this or not this, you’d get this other tweak to the ending. And we kept doing that. And you know even just two weeks ago someone had this idea, “Oh we should add this idea to the ending” (sorry I’m not going to spoil what that is). And I said, “oh that’s a genius idea, we have to do that.” But then it became, “oh, but there’s four versions of that.” So i was like, “okay there’s like four different versions of that little parts,” and that multiplies by, at the time we were at about 60 ending…now there’s four versions of that so now theres around 240 versions. So it gets kind of stupid.”

The games are small at first on paper, and then as we go they get bigger…we can’t stop ourselves. We’re have tons of people with good ideas here, and if they’re good and fit the tone, we’re going to try to jam them in there. Fallout is probably twice the size of what we originally had on paper…it’s pretty big, so that’s happened with the endings.

So some of that is the big things of what you do really late in the game, some of its related to karma — how you’ve lived your life from the beginning — you get certain scenes based on your karma. But we kind of like the ending with as much as the game from the beginning — you tailoring your character and then you play throughout this game, and unlike Elder Scrolls where you can keep playing, Fallout 3 has a definite ending. So we wanted to go to efforts to make sure that the actual ending you get when you finish and get the ending, and make that ending reflect and make it individual to the user’s experience.” We’ve got a little overboard.”[/quote]
Knives's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:20
Knives
My endings let me show you them!

Meh, I'm pretty sure it will be a couple with small differences between them.
deanimate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:26
deanimate
jesus christ. they're obviously going to be very small differences.
stop the whining and crack on with the homebrew.
HOMEBREW!!!
madninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:30
madninja
All this shows me is how many game changing options there will be in he game. I can't wait to play this game.
niakori's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:33
niakori
200!!! Dubya-tee-eff, and I bet I'll only be able to do 13
Scape's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:36
Scape
There may be as many as 20 really different endings. The rest will just be slight variations.
MrPeenie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:38
MrPeenie
Sounds creepy to me. Dont think 200 endings are worth it - in the end how much time could they invest / how different will they be? Just some hype number... Remember that supposed to be mortal kombat alternative, which really sucked but had an infinite number of fatalities? Yeah, thats my thoughts. Also, Dogmeat.
WastelandTraveler's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:47
WastelandTraveler
@Heretic amazon.com has the whole collection ;D. From Fallout 1 to Tactics. I recently reaquired the fallout series for myself to play through before 3 comes out. I must say I forgot how deliciously violent the first two were.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:48
TheToiletDuck
I can't wait to get the ending where everybody has moustaches.
Bizzaro fallout!
BluFire's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:53
BluFire
"Ending" probably means some epilogue-like paragraph:
Ending #1: John died.
Ending #2: John got a divorce and died.
Ending #3: John got a divorce and lived happily ever after.
Ending #4: John bought a Falafel but it was actually a monster.
Ending #5: John massacred the city and raped all the dead bodies.
Ending #6: John raped all the dead bodies but then killed himself.
Ending #7: John fell asleep for seven years.
Reallynotnick's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:53
Reallynotnick
I don't think you should take it as a goal to hit as many as possible but just lets everyone get their own ending depending on what they do throughout the game. A perfect choose your own adventure game if I must say so myself, though it could really hurt the narrative, who knows?
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:59
Eschatos
It's not actually going to be 200 endings. I bet they'll just change a couple sentences in the ending voice over or something similar.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 16:59
AgentMOO
LOL A mad-libs ending system would be awesome... oh shit don't steal that idea!
Palidi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:06
Palidi
200 endings, eh? I'll get one and just youtube the rest.
Yuphrum's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:08
Yuphrum
Ugh, these type of games I have problems with, I'll be really excited in getting it but I'll never get around to finishing it.It's happened to me with Morrowind, the first Fallout games and now its going to happen with this. :(
Still going to get it though :P
Palidi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:10
Palidi
Actually, I wouldn't be suprised if there were like...only 100 real endings, but they were considered different depening on the gender of your character.

As BluFire said:

Ending #1: John died.
Ending #2: John got a divorce and died.
Ending #3: John got a divorce and lived happily ever after.
Ending #4: John bought a Falafel but it was actually a monster.
Ending #5: John massacred the city and raped all the dead bodies.
Ending #6: John raped all the dead bodies but then killed himself.
Ending #7: John fell asleep for seven years.
.
.
.
Ending #1: Jane died.
Ending #2: Jane got a divorce and died.
Ending #3: Jane got a divorce and lived happily ever after.
Ending #4: Jane bought a Falafel but it was actually a monster.
Ending #5: Jane massacred the city and raped all the dead bodies.
Ending #6: Jane raped all the dead bodies but then killed himself.
Ending #7: Jane fell asleep for seven years.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:10
mistic
200 endings great!

so who will be the first to score the 'FalloutFreak: Saw All Endings 50G'-achievement?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:11
Sharpless
That's overkill. 100 would be overkill. I love open-ended games and non-linear play, but this is just ridiculous. I don't see how the game can possibly be all that good, if they're putting so much into 200 freaking endings. It's a waste.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:36
Jetsetlemming
Anybody remember Star Ocean: The 2nd Story? It had dozens and dozens of endings; only one REAL ending; Good guys win, bad guys die, everything goes back to normal. Where all the others come from is the possible friend/lover pairings among the party members, forged by Private Action events over the course of the game, plus unique endings for a character if they end up alone. You get like half a dozen endings every time you beat the game.
I imagine this will be the same sort of thing with Fallout 3, except the variables are more along the lines of "X person Lived/Died", "X event occured/was prevented, "X settlement was destroyed/prospored", etc.
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:37
TrailerParkJesus
he wears a different hat for each ending maybe?
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:49
MechaMonkey
@TrailerParkJesus

I expect some pretty awesome hats then, if there are going to be 200 of them.
Delaric's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:58
Delaric
(Just FYI there are already about ten posts saying that the endings will be slight variations of a few base endings according to variables so I think ppl can stop saying that)

Endings....fine. What about the combat system? I know virtually nothing about the freaking combat system or weapons besides a screenshot of a super mutant with targeting points on it. And only one companion (not counting dogmeat)? Although, with the companion problems that were present in Oblivion it's probably better that they be kept to a minimum. Anticipating an actual gameplay video ^^
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 18:12
HarassmentPanda
Yeah, I imagine Fallout 3 will have a lot of variables that produce different results in the conclusion. So, the "200 hundred endings" will be combinations of the different possible results.
xper's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 18:13
xper
retarded. completely retarded.
Drksan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 18:28
Drksan
Meh. To me it'll just add more replay value to the game. Just not all at the same time.
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 19:02
SourGr8pes
I want to get the ending where everyone turns into Reptites
Dudemullet's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 20:47
Dudemullet
Im gonna lawl when the 200 ending speed run comes out on youtube
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 21:01
Eschatos
I'm virtually certain that there will really be only a few endings, but that various things will change based upon player action. For example, imagine the city of Megaton that Bethesda has been so fond of using as an example for interesting story. If the player nukes it, then that probably will show up in an ending cut scene. If they don't, that'll show up too. If you add all the possibilities up, there could easily be 200.
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 21:06
Necros
As long as there is no achievement for getting every single ending, I think I'm fine with that. Can you imagine playing the game a few more times and being pretty much guaranteed a new ending?
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 21:57
manasteel88
lets see if they are 200 unique endings or 200 different endings
Fleet3000's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 22:04
Fleet3000
wow. i can't wait until i play through it once, then go to youtube to watch the rest of the endings.

good waste of time had by all.
adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 22:17
adultswim810
ending one everyone dies
ending two you tripp over a turtle then everyone dies again
etc.
cougs's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2008 06:19
cougs
ehh, i'm just happy the game has "doubled in size" since they started production. Having a game with a single player that can last for a month or so is awesome.
NSNick's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2008 13:57
NSNick
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if this has been said already.

If the endings turn out to be different (and not just combinations of some cutscenes), most of you seem to be aggravated at this. I'm not sure why. It seems to me that a gripe with gaming seems to be that in open world games that your actions don't have a tangible effect on the story. No matter what you do, you're going to have to do Quest X or beat Boss Y and get Item Z. Well, this seems to me that with so many endings, you are actually affecting what happens in the game in a real way. I see this as a good thing.
Shinigami Sam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 07:17
Shinigami Sam
I just hope that they don't put too much effort in the endings aspect of the game verses actual gameplay.
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