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Fallout 3 will have over 200 endings, you will never have a life again

2:26 PM on 03.24.2008, Colette Bennett 90 comments

Fallout 3 will have over 200 endings, you will never have a life again photo
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Okay, I've played games with two, four, even six or eight endings. That's fine, it's kind of fun to see them all, especially the "easter egg" endings like in Silent Hill where the UFO comes. There comes a point where enough is enough though...right?

Bethesda's Todd Howard recently did the official Xbox podcast and talked about Fallout 3, and revealed somenew tidbits, including the boggling new number of endings available. The highlights list:

-”Fans sending death threats” says one of the OXM guys. Another one calls Fallout fans”rabid Right Wing kind of fans”.

-Over 200 endings, since last week. The 12 endings was surpassed sometime ago.

-The game is twice bigger than what they thought in the beginning.

-Always just one humanoid-type companion, and another NPC like Dogmeat.

-Dogmeat can die, but they are working on his health and how you maintain him.

- Dogmeat can be given assignments, and will try to follow them with his Radiant AI.

-Brotherhood of Steel doing their own thing; already in finished state on the game; they are on the verge of extinction, you’ll interact with them a lot more after a determined point in the game.

-The game is finished, but needs a lot more polishing and testing, they are doing many playthroughs; they keep adding stuff, sometimes it takes 100 hours to play, just the main quest takes about 20 hours.

-Absolutely tracking at fall 2008.

Two hundred endings. See, I love me some Fallout, but this is the kind of sh*t that gives gamers a bad name. Of course, I applaud the creativity and time it must take to create two hundred endings to a game, but you know hardcore Fallout fans are going to try to get as many of those endings as they can, which means no life outside of playing the game and maybe going to a day job if you don't quit the damn thing so you can have more time to play Fallout

What's your input - are hundreds of endings too daunting a goal to consider meeting, or merely a fantastic challenge worth bellying up to the bar for?

[Via Fallout 3 Blog - thanks Justin]


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tazarthayoot's Avatar
tazarthayoot at 03/24/2008 14:23
That seems...a tad unnecessary. I mean I understand the idea of getting what you pay for, but 200 endings? jesus christ..
sleepingagain's Avatar
sleepingagain at 03/24/2008 14:23
oh damn...
big filth's Avatar
big filth at 03/24/2008 14:27
thats it??

the question remains.. how many beginnings will it have??

hmmmmmm.....
Determination's Avatar
Determination at 03/24/2008 14:29
200 endings, and 1 'true, real' ending. Why even bother?

Yes, the Chrono Trigger New Game+ endings were amusing, but in everyone's minds: Crono survives, the Epoch is without a scratch, and all is right with the world.
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Justice at 03/24/2008 14:29
That's a bit.... excessive. I bet someone will youtube all 200 endings within a month of release.
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Drunken Haze at 03/24/2008 14:30
I recon 200 endings means 200 different combinations of the ending cinematics; Like with the original fallout. All it needs is 15 diferent variables like save city x cut scene, destroyed people y cuts scnene and hey presto, with a few dozen five second videos you get over 200 'different' ending montages.
Raidensolid's Avatar
Raidensolid at 03/24/2008 14:30
FFS.

Nuff said.

(BTW if you didn't already guess it means FOR FUCK SAKES"
Twosixteen's Avatar
Twosixteen at 03/24/2008 14:30
Dogmeat is back?

Whaaaaat??
Dexter345's Avatar
Dexter345 at 03/24/2008 14:30
If a game has multiple endings, I rarely play through to see them all. Most recently I finished Bioshock, got the "good" ending, and then YouTubed the other two. I would certainly do that with at least 198 of the Fallout 3 endings.
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A Humble Mr Perfect at 03/24/2008 14:31
I don't know what he means by this. This is Bethesda, btw. We can't take the term "ending" by its face value. Oblivion had an "ending" too, just to the main quest. One could argue that guild had an "ending", as well. I think that it is going to be pulling teeth like chrono trigger...
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Tragic Hero at 03/24/2008 14:32
200 endings eh? My guess two of them are going to have to pertain with Dog meat surviving or dying.

And of course this information being given out during a Xbox360 podcast is what is wrong with this game. You can tell who Bethesda is trying to please here and I don't like it one bit.
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Rogue Trooper at 03/24/2008 14:33
How different are those endings going to be from each other?
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emotoaster at 03/24/2008 14:34
Yeah I don't think there are really going to be 200 individual endings, also don't you think there wouldn't be much difference between endings? You go through 200 I'm sure there are going to be many that are pretty close to being the same thing.
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ScottyG at 03/24/2008 14:35
I guarantee that they'll do some dickhead thing to "encourage" people to play through the game to get every ending, either by having a "true" ending, or through achievements on the 360 version. :p
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Snaileb at 03/24/2008 14:35
I'm just aggravated I will never unlock all 200 endings. Bastards.
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Determination at 03/24/2008 14:36
hehe, 'ending' doesn't mean 'right before the credits' roll anymore? So, to take Oblivion as an example, completing the Dark Brotherhood quest line is an ending?
Chocobo Knight's Avatar
Chocobo Knight at 03/24/2008 14:36
*jumps out of the way as the Hype Machine rolls through*
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pixelsword at 03/24/2008 14:36
Man, I was so hoping to have a life after getting all of the skill points from Ratchet and Clank.

I guess it's back to T.V. dinners and cheap flirting on date sites I'm never gonna subscribe to.
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Kurtz at 03/24/2008 14:36
If anyone has played the other two fallouts will remember that the game had a few different endings, but depending on the player's actions in the game it would also get a "what happened next" to the various places visited and characters encountered...

I would say that's what they mean about 200 endings, not in Chrono Trigger sense.
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Kryptinite at 03/24/2008 14:44
I'll beat it once and wait for youtube to catch up.
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Aertyr at 03/24/2008 14:48
WANNNNNNNNNNNNTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT .... so ... close... I can touch itttttttttttt .... UHGHHHGHGHGHGHGHG!
PsychosesMan's Avatar
PsychosesMan at 03/24/2008 14:49
Good GOD. Two hundred endings AND raping NPC interaction possibilities per playthrough with a nonsensical limit on companions? That's just mean.
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stevesan at 03/24/2008 14:52
As long as Dogmeat is back, I'm happy.
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Holyetheline at 03/24/2008 14:52
That's rather impressive of them to do. That team never knows when to stop. lol
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stevesan at 03/24/2008 14:53
So that's 199 endings I will never see. Oh well. It's still gonna be $60 right?
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foxhound009 at 03/24/2008 14:55
Well.. that's nice.. I'm going to see them all (willl use hax)
:P
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MrSadistic at 03/24/2008 14:59
Since Liam Neeson is in this game, I hope there's an ending which alters time to make me forget his horrible performance in Next of Kin. Yuck.
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Unicorn at 03/24/2008 15:01
that's awesome.

i see it as something that's a step forward. in light of Will Wright's philosophy of gamers wanting individual experiences and lives within their games.

my ending will be different than my friends' endings and i can see us all sitting together telling stories about how we played the game and how it ended for us.

that's how we talk about almost every other open-ended/sandbox game.

"i just drive around and listen to music when i play GTA"
"I like to shoot all the black people in GTA. Especially if it's Martin Luther King Day."
"I like to run along the buildings in Hulk: Ultimate Destruction"
"I like getting a hooker, then killing her to get my money back in GTA"
"I had flies and horns and all sorts of nasty shit on my warlock in Fable"

that kind of shit.
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big filth at 03/24/2008 15:01
@ dexter 345

"Most recently I finished Bioshock, got the "good" ending, and then YouTubed the other two"

Your copy of Bioshock has 3 endings??

sweet!

I want a refund :(
F Whipple's Avatar
F Whipple at 03/24/2008 15:02
Gotta catch'em all!!!
Nordstorm's Avatar
Nordstorm at 03/24/2008 15:03
Faaantastic!
But the part that I'm most excited about is
"Absolutely tracking at fall 2008". So soon...
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ArrestedDeveloper at 03/24/2008 15:05
DOGMEAT!!!!

Also, 200 endings!
MaximusPaynicus's Avatar
MaximusPaynicus at 03/24/2008 15:08
I guess I'll start stocking up on canned food and disposable razor blades now, then.
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king3vbo at 03/24/2008 15:10
Fuck yeah! I cant wait
Pixel Blue's Avatar
Pixel Blue at 03/24/2008 15:11
I think Drunken Haze has the right idea.
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Cheeburga at 03/24/2008 15:19
NOT ENOUGH ENDINGS, GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Jim Sterling at 03/24/2008 15:21
200 endings is ludicrous. How are you going to make all 200 satisfying and well-produced? I can't help but reckon at least 199 of them are pure shit.
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tincow at 03/24/2008 15:31
What Drunken Haze said...

As any mathlete knows, multiplication is amazing, for example if you have 5 base endings with 5 on/off switches like (X lived or died, plot element X was completed,etc.)..you're up to 240 endings!
Shawnzzy's Avatar
Shawnzzy at 03/24/2008 15:34
wow my pants need to be changed
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Briosafreak at 03/24/2008 15:41
Thanks for the link, but it's probably better for you to link to this other blog post about the 240 endings (so far), where Todd Howard explains what that really means.

It's more or less the same as the classic Fallout games, those that played them know what I'm talking about, but with a stronger push on karma when dealing with the variables to create the endings.
Ryadol's Avatar
Ryadol at 03/24/2008 15:42
my bet is that 200 comes from smaller segments of the ending
like if divide the ending into 1/3s and each 3 sections have 4 differnt possiblities, that gives you 342 differeent ending possibilities right there. i think my math might be off.
Remo's Avatar
Remo at 03/24/2008 15:44
an easier way for Bethesda to make you their bitch would be to drive over to your house and just put a collar on you.
Bus's Avatar
Bus at 03/24/2008 15:47
Did Bethesda just curb stomp authorial intent? Any which way (of 200, jeez), should at least be interesting.
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Crunshii at 03/24/2008 15:54
that reminds me of that Ps1/2 game (cant rem which system it was) Tactics RPG, Blood hearts or something, it had like unlimited endings or close.

I always ended up being the evil king with the dying bitch :(
Wexx's Avatar
Wexx at 03/24/2008 15:54
I can't wait.
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animateria at 03/24/2008 15:54
Two hundred, where a lot of them are similar yet slightly different.
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dyslixec at 03/24/2008 16:07
200 endings? Mother of god. Well i'll tell you this much, i'll be playing the shit out of this game, but not fanatically to get the 200 points. All this means is that this game will last me well beyond a year of gameplay ;D.
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Daynger777 at 03/24/2008 16:14
Uh oh I hope this doesn't mean I'm going to fuse into my chair like that lady did with her toilet seat... because 200 endings might beat daylight and fresh air for a couple months. Man... maybe getting this game is not such a good idea
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