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Fallout 3 will have over 200 endings, you will never have a life again

by Colette Bennett on 03.24.2008 86 comments


Fallout 3 will have over 200 endings, you will never have a life again video game

Okay, I've played games with two, four, even six or eight endings. That's fine, it's kind of fun to see them all, especially the "easter egg" endings like in Silent Hill where the UFO comes. There comes a point where enough is enough though...right?

Bethesda's Todd Howard recently did the official Xbox podcast and talked about Fallout 3, and revealed somenew tidbits, including the boggling new number of endings available. The highlights list:

-”Fans sending death threats” says one of the OXM guys. Another one calls Fallout fans”rabid Right Wing kind of fans”.

-Over 200 endings, since last week. The 12 endings was surpassed sometime ago.

-The game is twice bigger than what they thought in the beginning.

-Always just one humanoid-type companion, and another NPC like Dogmeat.

-Dogmeat can die, but they are working on his health and how you maintain him.

- Dogmeat can be given assignments, and will try to follow them with his Radiant AI.

-Brotherhood of Steel doing their own thing; already in finished state on the game; they are on the verge of extinction, you’ll interact with them a lot more after a determined point in the game.

-The game is finished, but needs a lot more polishing and testing, they are doing many playthroughs; they keep adding stuff, sometimes it takes 100 hours to play, just the main quest takes about 20 hours.

-Absolutely tracking at fall 2008.

Two hundred endings. See, I love me some Fallout, but this is the kind of sh*t that gives gamers a bad name. Of course, I applaud the creativity and time it must take to create two hundred endings to a game, but you know hardcore Fallout fans are going to try to get as many of those endings as they can, which means no life outside of playing the game and maybe going to a day job if you don't quit the damn thing so you can have more time to play Fallout

What's your input - are hundreds of endings too daunting a goal to consider meeting, or merely a fantastic challenge worth bellying up to the bar for?

[Via Fallout 3 Blog - thanks Justin]



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Shinigami Sam: I just hope that they don't put too much effort in the endings aspect of the game verses actual gameplay.   more
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youkilledmyguy's Avatar
Fallout 3 is one of the games I'm looking forward to most. The sad part is that after playing through 1 and 2 again I realize that today's gamer and gaming market wouldn't accept the sort of style that were a trademark of the Fallout series. I'm scared that I'm going to end up with an Oblivion rip-off instead of a Fallout game.
AgentMOO's Avatar
Giggity!
tazarthayoot's Avatar
That seems...a tad unnecessary. I mean I understand the idea of getting what you pay for, but 200 endings? jesus christ..
sleepingagain's Avatar
oh damn...
big filth's Avatar
thats it??

the question remains.. how many beginnings will it have??

hmmmmmm.....
Determination's Avatar
200 endings, and 1 'true, real' ending. Why even bother?

Yes, the Chrono Trigger New Game+ endings were amusing, but in everyone's minds: Crono survives, the Epoch is without a scratch, and all is right with the world.
Justice's Avatar
That's a bit.... excessive. I bet someone will youtube all 200 endings within a month of release.
Drunken Haze's Avatar
I recon 200 endings means 200 different combinations of the ending cinematics; Like with the original fallout. All it needs is 15 diferent variables like save city x cut scene, destroyed people y cuts scnene and hey presto, with a few dozen five second videos you get over 200 'different' ending montages.
Raidensolid's Avatar
FFS.

Nuff said.

(BTW if you didn't already guess it means FOR FUCK SAKES"
Twosixteen's Avatar
Dogmeat is back?

Whaaaaat??
Dexter345's Avatar
If a game has multiple endings, I rarely play through to see them all. Most recently I finished Bioshock, got the "good" ending, and then YouTubed the other two. I would certainly do that with at least 198 of the Fallout 3 endings.
A Humble Mr Perfect's Avatar
I don't know what he means by this. This is Bethesda, btw. We can't take the term "ending" by its face value. Oblivion had an "ending" too, just to the main quest. One could argue that guild had an "ending", as well. I think that it is going to be pulling teeth like chrono trigger...
Tragic Hero's Avatar
200 endings eh? My guess two of them are going to have to pertain with Dog meat surviving or dying.

And of course this information being given out during a Xbox360 podcast is what is wrong with this game. You can tell who Bethesda is trying to please here and I don't like it one bit.
Rogue Trooper's Avatar
How different are those endings going to be from each other?
emotoaster's Avatar
Yeah I don't think there are really going to be 200 individual endings, also don't you think there wouldn't be much difference between endings? You go through 200 I'm sure there are going to be many that are pretty close to being the same thing.
ScottyG's Avatar
I guarantee that they'll do some dickhead thing to "encourage" people to play through the game to get every ending, either by having a "true" ending, or through achievements on the 360 version. :p
Snaileb 's Avatar
I'm just aggravated I will never unlock all 200 endings. Bastards.
Determination's Avatar
hehe, 'ending' doesn't mean 'right before the credits' roll anymore? So, to take Oblivion as an example, completing the Dark Brotherhood quest line is an ending?
Chocobo Knight's Avatar
*jumps out of the way as the Hype Machine rolls through*
pixelsword's Avatar
Man, I was so hoping to have a life after getting all of the skill points from Ratchet and Clank.

I guess it's back to T.V. dinners and cheap flirting on date sites I'm never gonna subscribe to.
Kurtz's Avatar
If anyone has played the other two fallouts will remember that the game had a few different endings, but depending on the player's actions in the game it would also get a "what happened next" to the various places visited and characters encountered...

I would say that's what they mean about 200 endings, not in Chrono Trigger sense.
Kryptinite's Avatar
I'll beat it once and wait for youtube to catch up.
Aertyr's Avatar
WANNNNNNNNNNNNTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT .... so ... close... I can touch itttttttttttt .... UHGHHHGHGHGHGHGHG!
PsychosesMan's Avatar
Good GOD. Two hundred endings AND raping NPC interaction possibilities per playthrough with a nonsensical limit on companions? That's just mean.
stevesan's Avatar
As long as Dogmeat is back, I'm happy.
Holyetheline's Avatar
That's rather impressive of them to do. That team never knows when to stop. lol
stevesan's Avatar
So that's 199 endings I will never see. Oh well. It's still gonna be $60 right?
foxhound009's Avatar
Well.. that's nice.. I'm going to see them all (willl use hax)
:P
MrSadistic's Avatar
Since Liam Neeson is in this game, I hope there's an ending which alters time to make me forget his horrible performance in Next of Kin. Yuck.
Unicorn's Avatar
that's awesome.

i see it as something that's a step forward. in light of Will Wright's philosophy of gamers wanting individual experiences and lives within their games.

my ending will be different than my friends' endings and i can see us all sitting together telling stories about how we played the game and how it ended for us.

that's how we talk about almost every other open-ended/sandbox game.

"i just drive around and listen to music when i play GTA"
"I like to shoot all the black people in GTA. Especially if it's Martin Luther King Day."
"I like to run along the buildings in Hulk: Ultimate Destruction"
"I like getting a hooker, then killing her to get my money back in GTA"
"I had flies and horns and all sorts of nasty shit on my warlock in Fable"

that kind of shit.
big filth's Avatar
@ dexter 345

"Most recently I finished Bioshock, got the "good" ending, and then YouTubed the other two"

Your copy of Bioshock has 3 endings??

sweet!

I want a refund :(
F Whipple's Avatar
Gotta catch'em all!!!
Nordstorm's Avatar
Faaantastic!
But the part that I'm most excited about is
"Absolutely tracking at fall 2008". So soon...
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar
DOGMEAT!!!!

Also, 200 endings!
MaximusPaynicus's Avatar
I guess I'll start stocking up on canned food and disposable razor blades now, then.
king3vbo's Avatar
Fuck yeah! I cant wait
Pixel Blue's Avatar
I think Drunken Haze has the right idea.
Cheeburga's Avatar
NOT ENOUGH ENDINGS, GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Jim Sterling's Avatar
200 endings is ludicrous. How are you going to make all 200 satisfying and well-produced? I can't help but reckon at least 199 of them are pure shit.
tincow's Avatar
What Drunken Haze said...

As any mathlete knows, multiplication is amazing, for example if you have 5 base endings with 5 on/off switches like (X lived or died, plot element X was completed,etc.)..you're up to 240 endings!
Shawnzzy's Avatar
wow my pants need to be changed
Briosafreak's Avatar
Thanks for the link, but it's probably better for you to link to this other blog post about the 240 endings (so far), where Todd Howard explains what that really means.

It's more or less the same as the classic Fallout games, those that played them know what I'm talking about, but with a stronger push on karma when dealing with the variables to create the endings.
Ryadol's Avatar
my bet is that 200 comes from smaller segments of the ending
like if divide the ending into 1/3s and each 3 sections have 4 differnt possiblities, that gives you 342 differeent ending possibilities right there. i think my math might be off.
Remo's Avatar
an easier way for Bethesda to make you their bitch would be to drive over to your house and just put a collar on you.
Bus's Avatar
Did Bethesda just curb stomp authorial intent? Any which way (of 200, jeez), should at least be interesting.
Crunshii's Avatar
that reminds me of that Ps1/2 game (cant rem which system it was) Tactics RPG, Blood hearts or something, it had like unlimited endings or close.

I always ended up being the evil king with the dying bitch :(
Wexx's Avatar
I can't wait.
animateria's Avatar
Two hundred, where a lot of them are similar yet slightly different.
dyslixec's Avatar
200 endings? Mother of god. Well i'll tell you this much, i'll be playing the shit out of this game, but not fanatically to get the 200 points. All this means is that this game will last me well beyond a year of gameplay ;D.
Daynger777's Avatar
Uh oh I hope this doesn't mean I'm going to fuse into my chair like that lady did with her toilet seat... because 200 endings might beat daylight and fresh air for a couple months. Man... maybe getting this game is not such a good idea
Heretic's Avatar
Damn I wish I could find the original Fallout I really wanna play it :( I spent a hour one day searching the whole internets (ALL SIX OF THEM!!) and couldn't find it. Also torrents are so slow and I would buy it if I could find it.
Briosafreak's Avatar
Ok here's what Todd Howard said:
[quote="Todd Howard Executive Producer Fallout 3"]Todd Howard: Being that we are Bethesda…everything gets a bit big. So as of last week we’re over 200 endings. That is not an exaggeration, but it deserves some description. 200 endings…that’s a lot. So originally when we started, we had various iterations of the ending. The ending is kind of cinematic, that’s dynamic based on the things you’ve done.

When we started, it was kind of fuzzy, it was like “well there’s like 9 maybe 12″ and we started adding things to it. So if you had done this or not this, you’d get this other tweak to the ending. And we kept doing that. And you know even just two weeks ago someone had this idea, “Oh we should add this idea to the ending” (sorry I’m not going to spoil what that is). And I said, “oh that’s a genius idea, we have to do that.” But then it became, “oh, but there’s four versions of that.” So i was like, “okay there’s like four different versions of that little parts,” and that multiplies by, at the time we were at about 60 ending…now there’s four versions of that so now theres around 240 versions. So it gets kind of stupid.”

The games are small at first on paper, and then as we go they get bigger…we can’t stop ourselves. We’re have tons of people with good ideas here, and if they’re good and fit the tone, we’re going to try to jam them in there. Fallout is probably twice the size of what we originally had on paper…it’s pretty big, so that’s happened with the endings.

So some of that is the big things of what you do really late in the game, some of its related to karma — how you’ve lived your life from the beginning — you get certain scenes based on your karma. But we kind of like the ending with as much as the game from the beginning — you tailoring your character and then you play throughout this game, and unlike Elder Scrolls where you can keep playing, Fallout 3 has a definite ending. So we wanted to go to efforts to make sure that the actual ending you get when you finish and get the ending, and make that ending reflect and make it individual to the user’s experience.” We’ve got a little overboard.”[/quote]
Knives's Avatar
My endings let me show you them!

Meh, I'm pretty sure it will be a couple with small differences between them.
deanimate's Avatar
jesus christ. they're obviously going to be very small differences.
stop the whining and crack on with the homebrew.
HOMEBREW!!!
madninja's Avatar
All this shows me is how many game changing options there will be in he game. I can't wait to play this game.
niakori's Avatar
200!!! Dubya-tee-eff, and I bet I'll only be able to do 13
Scape's Avatar
There may be as many as 20 really different endings. The rest will just be slight variations.
MrPeenie's Avatar
Sounds creepy to me. Dont think 200 endings are worth it - in the end how much time could they invest / how different will they be? Just some hype number... Remember that supposed to be mortal kombat alternative, which really sucked but had an infinite number of fatalities? Yeah, thats my thoughts. Also, Dogmeat.
dyslixec's Avatar
@Heretic amazon.com has the whole collection ;D. From Fallout 1 to Tactics. I recently reaquired the fallout series for myself to play through before 3 comes out. I must say I forgot how deliciously violent the first two were.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar
I can't wait to get the ending where everybody has moustaches.
Bizzaro fallout!
BluFire's Avatar
"Ending" probably means some epilogue-like paragraph:
Ending #1: John died.
Ending #2: John got a divorce and died.
Ending #3: John got a divorce and lived happily ever after.
Ending #4: John bought a Falafel but it was actually a monster.
Ending #5: John massacred the city and raped all the dead bodies.
Ending #6: John raped all the dead bodies but then killed himself.
Ending #7: John fell asleep for seven years.
Reallynotnick's Avatar
I don't think you should take it as a goal to hit as many as possible but just lets everyone get their own ending depending on what they do throughout the game. A perfect choose your own adventure game if I must say so myself, though it could really hurt the narrative, who knows?
Eschatos's Avatar
It's not actually going to be 200 endings. I bet they'll just change a couple sentences in the ending voice over or something similar.
AgentMOO's Avatar
LOL A mad-libs ending system would be awesome... oh shit don't steal that idea!
Palidi's Avatar
200 endings, eh? I'll get one and just youtube the rest.
Yuphrum's Avatar
Ugh, these type of games I have problems with, I'll be really excited in getting it but I'll never get around to finishing it.It's happened to me with Morrowind, the first Fallout games and now its going to happen with this. :(
Still going to get it though :P
Palidi's Avatar
Actually, I wouldn't be suprised if there were like...only 100 real endings, but they were considered different depening on the gender of your character.

As BluFire said:

Ending #1: John died.
Ending #2: John got a divorce and died.
Ending #3: John got a divorce and lived happily ever after.
Ending #4: John bought a Falafel but it was actually a monster.
Ending #5: John massacred the city and raped all the dead bodies.
Ending #6: John raped all the dead bodies but then killed himself.
Ending #7: John fell asleep for seven years.
.
.
.
Ending #1: Jane died.
Ending #2: Jane got a divorce and died.
Ending #3: Jane got a divorce and lived happily ever after.
Ending #4: Jane bought a Falafel but it was actually a monster.
Ending #5: Jane massacred the city and raped all the dead bodies.
Ending #6: Jane raped all the dead bodies but then killed himself.
Ending #7: Jane fell asleep for seven years.
mistic's Avatar
200 endings great!

so who will be the first to score the 'FalloutFreak: Saw All Endings 50G'-achievement?
Sharpless's Avatar
That's overkill. 100 would be overkill. I love open-ended games and non-linear play, but this is just ridiculous. I don't see how the game can possibly be all that good, if they're putting so much into 200 freaking endings. It's a waste.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar
Anybody remember Star Ocean: The 2nd Story? It had dozens and dozens of endings; only one REAL ending; Good guys win, bad guys die, everything goes back to normal. Where all the others come from is the possible friend/lover pairings among the party members, forged by Private Action events over the course of the game, plus unique endings for a character if they end up alone. You get like half a dozen endings every time you beat the game.
I imagine this will be the same sort of thing with Fallout 3, except the variables are more along the lines of "X person Lived/Died", "X event occured/was prevented, "X settlement was destroyed/prospored", etc.
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar
he wears a different hat for each ending maybe?
MechaMonkey's Avatar
@TrailerParkJesus

I expect some pretty awesome hats then, if there are going to be 200 of them.
Delaric's Avatar
(Just FYI there are already about ten posts saying that the endings will be slight variations of a few base endings according to variables so I think ppl can stop saying that)

Endings....fine. What about the combat system? I know virtually nothing about the freaking combat system or weapons besides a screenshot of a super mutant with targeting points on it. And only one companion (not counting dogmeat)? Although, with the companion problems that were present in Oblivion it's probably better that they be kept to a minimum. Anticipating an actual gameplay video ^^
HarassmentPanda's Avatar
Yeah, I imagine Fallout 3 will have a lot of variables that produce different results in the conclusion. So, the "200 hundred endings" will be combinations of the different possible results.
xper's Avatar
retarded. completely retarded.
Drksan's Avatar
Meh. To me it'll just add more replay value to the game. Just not all at the same time.
SourGr8pes's Avatar
I want to get the ending where everyone turns into Reptites
Dudemullet's Avatar
Im gonna lawl when the 200 ending speed run comes out on youtube
Eschatos's Avatar
I'm virtually certain that there will really be only a few endings, but that various things will change based upon player action. For example, imagine the city of Megaton that Bethesda has been so fond of using as an example for interesting story. If the player nukes it, then that probably will show up in an ending cut scene. If they don't, that'll show up too. If you add all the possibilities up, there could easily be 200.
Necros's Avatar
As long as there is no achievement for getting every single ending, I think I'm fine with that. Can you imagine playing the game a few more times and being pretty much guaranteed a new ending?
manasteel88's Avatar
lets see if they are 200 unique endings or 200 different endings
Fleet3000's Avatar
wow. i can't wait until i play through it once, then go to youtube to watch the rest of the endings.

good waste of time had by all.
adultswim810's Avatar
ending one everyone dies
ending two you tripp over a turtle then everyone dies again
etc.
cougs's Avatar
ehh, i'm just happy the game has "doubled in size" since they started production. Having a game with a single player that can last for a month or so is awesome.
NSNick's Avatar
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if this has been said already.

If the endings turn out to be different (and not just combinations of some cutscenes), most of you seem to be aggravated at this. I'm not sure why. It seems to me that a gripe with gaming seems to be that in open world games that your actions don't have a tangible effect on the story. No matter what you do, you're going to have to do Quest X or beat Boss Y and get Item Z. Well, this seems to me that with so many endings, you are actually affecting what happens in the game in a real way. I see this as a good thing.
Shinigami Sam's Avatar
I just hope that they don't put too much effort in the endings aspect of the game verses actual gameplay.

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