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Over priced, go to gamestop or walmart pick them up for cheaper...and can even sell them back when I'm bored of them for a couple dollars. Microsoft had a good idea of the downloading games so us lazy people don't have to leave our house but they over charge way to much
Why buy a disc you can own and use forever, or resell if you choose, when you could pay MORE for a digital account checkbox that you do not own, might not be able to play some day and can never resell!
SCORE!
SCORE!
Is it normal for 85% of gamers to moan like drains? Because I thought gaming was about FUN, but every gaming forum I see is full of winging ninnies.
*Looks at the 225 games in StingingVelvet's Steam account*
You must love Steam considering all the games you have attached to it. GOOD ON YA!
You must love Steam considering all the games you have attached to it. GOOD ON YA!
So which is more expensive: buying Fable II episodic with MS points, or dropping $20 on the full game?
You're an idiot if you buy Fallout 3 at that price. Gstop has it for $19.99 with 10% off. http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?Product_ID=65822%28GameStopBase%29
Not sure why anyone would consider the original Fallout 3 when the GotY includes all the epxansions. Seriously good gaming value (if you like open world RPGs).
@ watermanx
Hate is a strong word... I prefer DRM-free retail product, yes. Anyone with common sense should, frankly.
@ VGFreak
I like how you assume that is me. It is though, don't get me wrong. The reason your point is still silly though is that I USED to be a strong Steam supporter until I realized the error of my ways, then I stopped buying Steam games.
If you actually look, the only games I have on Steam from the last 5 months or so are Steam or digital download exclusives, thank you very much. No Bad Company 2, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age Awakenings, Assassin's Creed 2 CnC4 or whatever else I have purchased retail.
Hate is a strong word... I prefer DRM-free retail product, yes. Anyone with common sense should, frankly.
@ VGFreak
I like how you assume that is me. It is though, don't get me wrong. The reason your point is still silly though is that I USED to be a strong Steam supporter until I realized the error of my ways, then I stopped buying Steam games.
If you actually look, the only games I have on Steam from the last 5 months or so are Steam or digital download exclusives, thank you very much. No Bad Company 2, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age Awakenings, Assassin's Creed 2 CnC4 or whatever else I have purchased retail.
@StingingVelvet
Fair enough. And just so you know, I made sure it was you since you've commented on Jim's SteamID page.
@watermanx
This should help back him up, and explain some things.
Fair enough. And just so you know, I made sure it was you since you've commented on Jim's SteamID page.
@watermanx
This should help back him up, and explain some things.
@VGFreak1225
thanks, I can see that it isn't good for people that have frequent internet problems, but when my internet connection cuts out, steam still remains active and online so I can play all my games on it, just not the multiplayer ones.
thanks, I can see that it isn't good for people that have frequent internet problems, but when my internet connection cuts out, steam still remains active and online so I can play all my games on it, just not the multiplayer ones.
Fallout 3 at $30 isn't "reasonable" unless it's got the DLC included. That shit has been $20 just about everywhere for quite some time. Not sure there is a reasonable price for Fable 2 at all, that game gets old way, way too fast to pay money for it.
@ Watermanx
Well, Steam is not Xbox Live, but allow me to lay out the basics: if you buy Fallout 3 for Xbox in a store you can always play it. The disc contains all the files you need and the machine will play it offline or not. If you buy Fallout 3 on Xbox Live it is tied to an account, there are restrictions on when you can play it i.e. not offline on a machine other than purchased on. Say someday Xbox Live goes down for good on 360, just like it is doing for the original Xbox right now, and you want to play Fallout 3 on a new machine? You can't, you're boned. That disc copy though, it will always work.
Similar idea on Steam, if I buy a DRM-free game like Mass Effect 2 or a download on GOG there is nothing to ever stop me from playing it. Working computer plus my Mass Effect 2 disc equals gameplay. If I buy on Steam, there are barriers... what if Steam goes down, what if I have no internet due to moving and Steam was not already put in offline mode, what if they disable my account for reasons not clear, which has happened to people?
Physical media, be it a DVD, a CD or a DRM-free game disc... or DRM-free downloaded media with backup... will always work. The licence agreement might say you are simply a license holder but you have the files, you own the disc, nothing can get in the way of you and your purchased content. With digital DRM-protected media however, there are restrictions to what you can do with content you purchased and you can't feel like you own it.
For me, that makes Fallout 3 on disc a lot more valuable than Fallout 3 on a Microsoft account, yet they are asking MORE for it. Hence my "WTF why do you people support this?" statement.
Jim wrote an article on this exact thing not long ago; about how we all under a certain age are rushing to digital ownership without considering the negatives of that. Might want to read it, it was very well done.
@ VGFreak
Good show.
Well, Steam is not Xbox Live, but allow me to lay out the basics: if you buy Fallout 3 for Xbox in a store you can always play it. The disc contains all the files you need and the machine will play it offline or not. If you buy Fallout 3 on Xbox Live it is tied to an account, there are restrictions on when you can play it i.e. not offline on a machine other than purchased on. Say someday Xbox Live goes down for good on 360, just like it is doing for the original Xbox right now, and you want to play Fallout 3 on a new machine? You can't, you're boned. That disc copy though, it will always work.
Similar idea on Steam, if I buy a DRM-free game like Mass Effect 2 or a download on GOG there is nothing to ever stop me from playing it. Working computer plus my Mass Effect 2 disc equals gameplay. If I buy on Steam, there are barriers... what if Steam goes down, what if I have no internet due to moving and Steam was not already put in offline mode, what if they disable my account for reasons not clear, which has happened to people?
Physical media, be it a DVD, a CD or a DRM-free game disc... or DRM-free downloaded media with backup... will always work. The licence agreement might say you are simply a license holder but you have the files, you own the disc, nothing can get in the way of you and your purchased content. With digital DRM-protected media however, there are restrictions to what you can do with content you purchased and you can't feel like you own it.
For me, that makes Fallout 3 on disc a lot more valuable than Fallout 3 on a Microsoft account, yet they are asking MORE for it. Hence my "WTF why do you people support this?" statement.
Jim wrote an article on this exact thing not long ago; about how we all under a certain age are rushing to digital ownership without considering the negatives of that. Might want to read it, it was very well done.
@ VGFreak
Good show.
@StingingVelvet
You're actually wrong about Mass Effect 2 on PC. That has a DRM that requires internet connection (same with the first on PC). So even though I own the physical disc, I may be boned in the future.
You're actually wrong about Mass Effect 2 on PC. That has a DRM that requires internet connection (same with the first on PC). So even though I own the physical disc, I may be boned in the future.
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