Oh, Peter.
Yep, it seems that our beloved Mr. Molyneux has attended the Denis Dyack school of pre-release hype. It teaches you to say as much crazy stuff as possible, every single day, until your game is released. This time our intrepid designer is talking about why Fable 2 wouldn't work so well with the PlayStation 3.
I um and ah because, OK, it's a quite sophisticated piece of tech. These days I don't get involved so much with shaders and the actual 3D design any more, the actual programming. It looks very complex. The 360 and the PS3 technically seem neck and neck. Sometimes I look at a title on the 360 it looks fantastic, sometimes I look at a title on PS3 and it looks fantastic. I can't see a difference.
What I would say, and this is not just me being the good company man, I'd say the thing I love about the 360 more than anything is nothing to do with the hardware, it's all to do with LIVE. LIVE is still underexploited for a game mechanic. Some of the stuff in Fable II we're doing with co-op is only possible because of the way that LIVE is structured. I love playing around with that stuff as a designer. Whereas PS3 doesn't seem to be quite so mature on that side. They haven't got quite the same infrastructure and service but, you know, yeah, I'd love to get games on every platform.
Peter Molyneux calls the PS3 a "worthless piece of sh*t" CONFIRMED!
Seriously though, do you agree with Peter's assertion that Xbox Live is what makes Fable 2 possible? Would you contest that the PlayStation Network is robust enough to support the game's online elements? After all, with Resistance 2 and MAG promising the kind of multiplayer experiences that Xbox Live is yet to touch, I'd say that the PSN can more than easily handle 2-player co-op.
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7:14 AM on 10.01.2008
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Also any news on his next game based on... PURE HYPE or whatever he said.
I actually think that was one of the least crazy things Pete's ever said. Haha.
He is on the Microsoft payroll though, soo
That's Our Peter!
Maybe he means the integration of Live? Not to say it's impossible but you'd have to work alot closer with sony to be able to do the same thing I guess.
Actually Peter, I don't know!
He basically started the sentence and then saw dollar/pound/euro signs draining in front of his eyes and so quickly U-turned at the last minute. Crackpot genium.
However, the gaming industry is about trying new things (and coping successful ideas from other people when they're not looking) and not going with the PSN just because it's not been around as long is a tad COMPLETLY CONTRADICTORY OF THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY'S NATURE.
Other than this - sure I can see where he's coming from. But, then again I own a 360, not a PS3, otherwise I'd be riled as having such a tiny excuse being the reason for no development on my format.
I bet he'd still dance like a fiend to get games onto Nintendo platforms though.
Black and White on Wii. I need say no more, that console was practically MADE for that game.
Give it a rest you fanboys.
In terms of Value, LIVE = PSN
Seriously.
Thats not to say that its impossible on ps3. If anything, it seems to be more useful for doing crazy things because its not so restricted; you can do whatever you want, if you feel like putting the effort in to get it working.
So hes kind of being lazy, but i also suspect that some of the Live elements he's put in Fable 2 were inspired by noticing things that Live is particularly good at.
@JACK of No Trades - how can you call people fanboys following such a ridiculous, defensive comment? This is not a big insult to the console you are obviously a fan of, no need to act before you think.
Dude, I own both systems, but I play my PS3 more, because my destructoid buddies are on PSN plus its free.
Lionhead is owned by MS and Peter hasn't made any games for the PS3. It would be retarded to listen to what the guy is saying about PSN.
That is all.
Perhaps there is something in the way XBL runs that FOR THE MOMENT makes this only possible in the way it was designed to run on the 360. Its not like the game is running online via dedicated server. Perhaps PSN itself doesnt have the bandwidth to currently support tracking everyone playing the game to display those floating orders and then allow for instant joining of games.
I've played quite a few PS3 games online. The latest being the Socom Beta and...its not exactly smooth and easy. Its the simplicity to use that makes XBL so good. It just works with no effort from the user and about as little frustration as you could ask for an online system.
Im going to assume when Peter says it cant be done on PS3 he means cant currently be done. The XBL infrastructure dwarfs that of PSN in terms of hardware (servers), code base, and features.
Im sure down the road PS3/PSN would be able to do the game just fine but right now, with the system in place perhaps its just not possible.
In the end does it really matter if he collects a check from MS? If he were being truly biased would he really say the hardware and graphics were about equal? I highly doubt it. If he was spinning to promote MS of course he would say the 360 is better in every dept.
You lost every ounce of respect you had with that comment.
he IS an Xbox fanboy.
@Mr. Molyneux
shut your stupid mouth. you are making me not want to buy your game.
d0x: They weren't lying. This is the only advantage PS3 has over 360 - processing grunt. The 360's GPU by all accounts seems to be better (look at the number of cross platform games that downrez on PS3, or placed side-by-side just look a little better on 360). But the PS3 obviously has more processing grunt. When has ANYONE ever argued this issue? I thought it was common knowledge, and hardly a fanboy argument, that the PS3's "brag factor" has always been it's number pushing power. And how few games actually take advantage of that :/ But anyway, LBP is a game that's massively heavy on the physics interactions. Maybe it could run at 100% on 360, but that depends on how much of the PS3's grunt they've used, I guess.
But Live is way better, seriously. And anyone that is still bitching about the 50 bucks a year needs to grow up and get a job. Or mow more lawns or something.
That is all.
But "the movies" for the PC is still broken...
:P
Fable 2's been annoying to hear about, so far, with probably the most annoying thing is that they kept spamming Rock Paper Shotgun with previews and news all throughout development... while still calling it a 360 exclusive and not just admitting there's a PC version that will come out months too late, long after anybody who gives a fuck has forgotten about it.
"The Dog might be a bit fractured, the Lip sync messes up... Oh and PSN is a little bitch." Lol