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Expect more of the same from upcoming Wii Zelda title photo

Speaking to Nintendo Power magazine in the August issue, Shigeru Miyamoto confirmed that the next Wii Legend of Zelda title wouldn’t stray from the series’ roots.

“I don’t think it’s going to be that radically different,” Miyamoto said.

Just to be clear: we don’t have our hands on the latest issue. Our postman likes to take our magazines home with him for a couple of weeks before bothering to stuff it in our mailbox. We’re not exactly sure where the quote is or what context it’s being used in. We’re leaning on Aeropause strictly for the quote.

As for what Miyamoto said, it’s a shame: as wonderful as most Zelda adventures are to play through, they’re becoming much too familiar. Ice Temple here. Bow and Arrow there. Boomerang in this place. Pick up this Heart Container in this hole. The Zelda house has a strong foundation, no doubt, but the guttering is starting to sag. It’s time to try something new.

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phantomile's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:25
phantomile
Oh great, another talking sword. Just what EVERY game franchise needs.
Kvb's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:25
Kvb
What?? I thought there was talk that this Zelda game was going to be drastically different before...
along the way's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:25
along the way
I agree. Twilight Princess was an okay homage to Ocarina, but I think it's time to throw some space marines into the mix.
JoZo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:26
JoZo
If "more of the same" meaning like TP, I'd be damn dissapointed.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:31
manasteel88
dev time has to be cut to push this out (to meet the demand of core gamers) since they don't seem to have as many in house projects going on. Hence SMG2 and Zelda Twilight Princess 2 looking like SMG and Zelda Twilight Princess with new features. Just cause they're nintendo doesn't mean that they can make brand spanking new games based on established series in less than 3 years.
donkeykong's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:32
donkeykong
Yeah I could have sworn Miyamoto was laying low this time and someone else was taking the reigns. I have nothing (much) bad to say about any of the main series games but that doesn't mean I don't want something new.
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:32
Magnalon
Ok this is getting a little overboard. First, we hear that "Mario Galaxy 2 will be more of the same", and now the Zelda franchise?

What happened to the creative power Nintendo once was? Remember when Mario Sunshine/Galaxy 1 came out, or Majora's mask? They were mind-blowing follow ups to the original. This is really disappointing news.
Onlineatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:32
Onlineatron
If this is the same dungeon/item structure as every other Zelda game I will be very annoyed... HEAR THAT MIYAMOTO?!!! ANNOYED!!!
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:39
Springsteen
I don't think "not radically different" and "more of the same" are synonyms...

There have beens some rumours of Zelda in space and such stuff, so it may've been an answer to those, as far as I'm concerned, stupid ideas. Zelda does need changes, and I really hope they come this time with WM+, but those must remain in the gameplay front. Changing the setting and the feeling of the series is meaningless, and would fit a new IP better.

I still wish they would just skip the Wii and put it on the next console... Before anyone attacks me, I do own a Wii and it IS underpowered. There's only so much you can do with it. Remember how revolutionary and WIDE Ocarina felt? It gave people a new perception on gaming reality. That was a really absorbing, immersive game. I wanted a breathing world, with charismatic characters with their own routines, like Windfall Island meets Oblivion. The basic mechanics don't have to change, but the scope surely needs to be widened. And it doesn't mean making Hyrule Field a huge, yet beautiful, lot of nothing. Kind of like what Super Mario Galaxy did to the Mario franchise. It just made things magical again.
Chocobo Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:42
Chocobo Knight
@Magnalon - Mario Sunshine? Really? :\

Twilight Princess felt too similar to Ocarina of Time and I expect no less from Master of Swords here. I'm not saying it's not a solid formula, but it could use some more variety. Don't be afraid to shake it up the Zelda formula, Nintendo!

Well, anything except horrid motion controls. Make those optional.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:43
Dexter345
I so want something new as well. If we are getting the same ol' Zelda though, I want a reappearance of Error.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:45
Phoenix Gamma
Wat.

"Twilight Princess is the last of this kind of Zelda"
Oh neat! Maybe we'll finally see something that isn't copy pasted from other Zel-

“I don’t think it’s going to be that radically different,”
YOU MOTHERFUCKER
KoKoO Psy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:47
KoKoO Psy
I wanna see a steamworks type zelda, lotsa cogs and steam. Hell Yea! But Spirit Tracks is kinda filling that void....
Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:51
Genius
If they are saying I will get another TP im gonna be pissed, I loved OoT and TP didnt even come close, it was a boring mess of waggle and running around as a dog.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:01
Justice
Sunshine is no where near as bad as people claim it is. It's a great game, and a good Mario game, the best sections are the ones where you didn't have F.L.U.D.D. and had to use Mario's abilities to get around. This is one of the many reasons why Galaxy is so great.
sweetchuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:03
sweetchuck
I'm ready for some innovation and something different in Zelda, so longs as the quality is still there.

I wanted to write a monthly musing on this, but never found the time. I wish they'd stop with the same-but-different stories, and let Link and the rest grow as characters. I'm talking long, involved stories that arch over multiple games. Legend of Zelda: Half-Life. Something like that.
kefkaesque's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:03
kefkaesque
@Chocobo Knight - I know great game right? So awesome that you felt the need to repeat it's epic name.

Also on topic, I think it would be cool if they took the premise of Zelda (the master sword, the triforce, some other magical mainstays of the core series) and put them in a different time/world. Not really futuristic or anything like that but just like, something new. People would be all "arg they're destroying Zelda": at first but hey, it's better than another similar sequel.
dip's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:08
dip
Wow, I think this might be the first console Zelda game that I won't buy. Fuck Twilight Princess.
Mirax's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:20
Mirax
Bummer. I know it will be great anyway ( I mean, it's Zelda), but I was expecting something new. Well, I hope the story is interesting, at least!
Salty Soil's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:30
Salty Soil
Darn. Not that I expect Zelda games to change dramatically in terms of core gameplay, but it would be nice to see actual differences at some point. Seems like I might have to skip over this one :(
Tyrotoxismist's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:32
Tyrotoxismist
I thought TP was the best game ever when I played through it the first time, but having played through it again recently, and then playing through Wind Waker immediately afterwards (a game I hated first time round, and finished yesterday), I can honestly say that if they could pull off another Wind Waker, I'd be extremely happy.

I don't mean with the sailing, I think that would get old even more quickly, but just another completely new experience. Something that I can spend an entire afternoon playing, without really progressing, and still feel it's not wasted time.
FistfulOAwesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:33
FistfulOAwesome
I kinda hope that they decide to go back to Zelda's roots. Remember how expansive the Overworld is in the "2D" Zelda's? How come none of the 3D Zelda's can evoke that same sense of adventure (Wind Waker came close) as the older games. Come on, we need a huge overworld to explore that also has stuff in it.

Less story would be a plus. I love the 3D Zelda's but they need to tighten up their narratives to the bare minimum. You guys know what I mean (It takes like an hour and a half to get to the first dungeon in most of them (only Ocarina didn't waste your time on that). The game makers need to know when to shut up.

Cutting down the items would be another. It feels like we get all these items that seem to get 1 time uses (Ocarina/WW=Hammer, TP=Boomerang) when they could have cleverly used an older item instead (PH does this).

Taking us out of Hyrule would be nice. Some of the most interesting Zelda games have been out of Hyrule (AoL,LA,MM,PH) so let's leave that drab land behind. Wasn't that the point of WW's ending anyway?

The point of the Wii is to take gaming back to when games were simpler (but not less complex (oxymoron?). The original Zelda is devious, and it's 8-bit, has less story, less items, and is strangely more compelling and clever on the whole. Why can't we have that same deviousness with the current ones? It's time to start anew.
Vimto's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:34
Vimto
Nooooooo, link has his shield in his left hand.
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:53
F Whipple
@Vimto

This fact disappoints me greatly.

And stop whining people, all we have is a quote and no context. Let's wait until we actually know something about the game before passing judgement.
peachboy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:55
peachboy
what springsteen said.

also wind waker>ocarina. there i said it.
Cadtalfryn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 18:17
Cadtalfryn
I'm not too upset by keeping it similar. Wind Waker was a pretty radical departure and is my least favorite in the series on consoles. But something darker and more interesting along the lines of Twilight Princess or Majora's Mask would be great.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 18:19
Holyetheline
I want Zelda on crack... give me Gears of Zelda!
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 18:40
Kalmah
First, Gears of War 1.5

Then, Resistance 1.5

Now, Zelda: Twilight Princess 1.5

Where the hell has all the originality gone?

Also, Bioshock 1.5 & Mario Galaxy 1.5 CONFIRMED

I could probably go on.

More games like Plants vs Zombies, Flower, Braid, LBP, etc...
Im OK's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 18:50
Im OK
Srsly Zelda needs moar rhythm music games and machine guns and space stations and explosions and tits and blood and blaugh blaugh blooopity bloop!

Or more like Zelda needs to be an RTS/FPS/Sims-like/MMO/Survial Horror/whatever-my-favorte-genre-is game instead of the traditional action-adventure it has always been!

Bah. Personally, I say bring on "more of the same". I have no problem with that at all. (Just as long as Tingle isn't in it, or at least kept to a bare, non-essential minimum.)

But, okay, let's say they opened it up to the "fans". You get to design the next Zelda game. How would you design it so that it would be so drastically new and different and awesome compared to what has come before (but that wouldn't also suck utter horse dong in the process, like any and all of my sarcastic "suggestions" above do)? Let it all out.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 18:53
Kyousuke Nanbu
Well that's a shame, Twilight Princess was quite boring, if this is more of the same then I guess I'll just rent it.
JLanphear's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 19:01
JLanphear
I like the same, in terms of Zelda. >_>

GO SABA!
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 19:26
wanderingpixel
I think he means that the gameplay will remain true to the series, but the themes are going to change.
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 19:31
Xhumation
More of the same? isn't that Nintendo's entire business platform?
Palidi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 19:35
Palidi
Eep, dont know what happened to my comment the first time...Here it is again:

I'm with springsteen on his first point. I mean, we can't really define what "radically different" means at this point. We have just one quote, and most of the commenters so far have jumped to to conclusion that they are just going to change Gannon's name to Harry and resell Twilight Princess to us again. Then again, I've been around Dtoid long enough that this very common type of overreaction doesn't shock me anymore. That, and all the main Zelda games are just Link to the Past with a new skin.
Palidi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 19:50
Palidi
Actually, reading the quote again, I have to wonder why he said "I don't think" as opposed to "It's not going to..."/"I know it won't be...".

Is he really not taking a lead role in this Zelda game, or is he just being coy with us?
ShadowKirby's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 20:05
ShadowKirby
Seriously...... are you guys really surprised that it's not going to be drastically different.
UnleashedWerehog's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 20:46
UnleashedWerehog
I could care less what they do. As long as they got the badass story im perfectly fine. Still I hope they don't make a serious change.
CallMeRotten's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 21:18
CallMeRotten
So you'll fight Ganon again hm? pass.
SLiFE's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 22:21
SLiFE
Shiggy's going back to the well? ZOMFG
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 22:29
VGFreak1225
I don't know what to think about these quotes from Nintendo. I will however say that if the next Zelda to be announced truly has the refreshing change that the series needs, there has to be a better way to talk about it. I'm still hoping for a more darker storyline, a la Majora's Mask.
Seta Soujiro's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/03/2009 00:01
Seta Soujiro
well, the fact that it's not a wind waker look-alike is something good in itself.
FistfulOAwesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/03/2009 01:17
FistfulOAwesome
@Anybody who mentioned Darker Storyline: Who honestly gives a crap? Will a darker storyline make the game more fun? Zelda games have been getting progressively worse for years. They've lost the tough combat (compare NES Darknuts to Gamecube Darknuts), the large open world (only the 2D games still manage to make good ones), and the sense of adventure. Nintendo needs to work on improving the gameplay before they work on something that is ultimately inconsequential like story. Give me a good game first, and a good story second.
cunty mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/03/2009 04:36
cunty mcgee
It would be a shame if this is true. As someone has already mentioned, what was achieved with the OoT engine for MM was truly outstanding. Having said that, even if the game sticks to the same formula, I'm still going to buy it.
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/03/2009 06:12
Springsteen
I may be totally off here, and maybe nobody will read a comment in relatively old sort-of-kinda-news, but remember back when Miyamoto said he wanted OoT to be in first person. Maybe THAT's what he considers radically different. I read the rest of the enterview concerning Zelda in GoNintendo and he mentioned "accessible gameplay". Now that's a little worryinf. Not trying to hardcore-preach, but, you know.

Maybe they should widen the gameplay possibilities. I think at this point in videogame history, Zelda's cryptic nature may have gotten a little old. I love the series, but sometimes it felt very arbitrary in the old games. As long as there are inventive puzzles, I'd be ok. Being inventive is very different from being cryptic. You can play through a very difficult puzzle going "Snap!" several times through it without having to sit and wonder what the hell you're supposed to be doing. Wondering where to go is very different from wondering how to move. I guess they'll pull it off, though.
iPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/03/2009 08:47
iPwn
I'm not surprised, I mean really, Zelda series has only ever been "radically different" once, in Majora Mask, past that the games have revolved around the same general idea. And thats great, as long as they bring a fresh new story, amazing level designs and a great assortment of characters, it will be what makes Zelda games as good as they are, simple as that.
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/05/2009 02:25
WarZombie
You got to look at this from their perspective:

They have a formula that hasn't failed them for a long ass time, so why try to change it? The thing about Mario is that over the past couple of games the formula has been changed every game (From Mario 64 to Sunshine to Galaxy, the concepts of the game were different), while Zelda hasn't changed a whole lot. Why fix what ain't broken?

But it's also true that too many games with the same formula is a little repetitive. So while keeping the core aspects, they have to experiment a little to keep things fresh. Either way, it'll sell millions anyway.
kaocrat's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/05/2009 11:58
kaocrat
All I want at this point is adjustable difficulty levels for the combat. The last few Zelda games have been so unbearably easy that just to keep the game challenging, I would deliberately avoid collecting heart containers. But it was still way too easy, because the combat is very slow-paced and the enemies mostly don't attack you more than once every 5 seconds. The rest of the time they just stand there.
Deku Link's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2009 15:29
Deku Link
Twilight Princess had to be the worst Zelda game there is, when it comes to Gameplay. I was bored while playing it with all the hearts I could get, and even when I tried the three heart challenge. It was so UNchallenging that I just stopped playing it half way through. It may have just been how hyped the game was... But, damn...

The storyline from Twilight Princess was okay. I liked the wolf part of the game. But that's all I liked about the game. The graphics were ugly. I sit relativly far from my TV and I could still see every pixel of the textures all over the game. Even Wind Waker (which I love by the way) which was made... what, six years before? Even It had better detailing graphics than this thing did.

The game was so disapointing that it cracked me. I gave up on Nintendo until I heard about the new Galaxy game being for veteran gamers. I only own Nintendo systems, so there wasn't much I could do but get hooked right back onto them.
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